Surgical strikes inside Pak. Possibility?

[FRYCRY]

Oh come on now element of surprise lies in quick attack and fast retrieve.
If you build up a attack then you are never going to to do that.

Last night at india tv rajat sharma show.
He is telling about killing of 20 terrorists in uri sector and also tell that bodies of terrorists are on pok side thats why firing is going on.

Yes and Modi was in MO Ops room till 2230.

 

[Bornubus]

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[OneGrimPilgrim]

That confirmation will never come as in this case, admitting to a cross border strike will be tantamount to an open declaration of War.

That is of course, the case if a strike has even taken place in reality.

why should it tantamount to war? cross-LoC ops have been undertaken earlier too by our SF...the 'international community' understands or can be told that PoK is still technically our territory.

 

[FRYCRY]

Ye bhakt inke source hein

 

[armyofhind]

why should it tantamount to war? cross-LoC ops have been undertaken earlier too by our SF...the 'international community' understands or can be told that PoK is still technically our territory.

Yes of course.
But the Porkis are a bunch of unpredictable turds. They might sieze on a public announcement and attempt to start a war.
Which is unwise for the moment. Once the buildup of our Forces is complete at the border, then its a different story altogether.
But if course, that's my viewpoint.

 

[OneGrimPilgrim]

Yes of course.
But the Porkis are a bunch of unpredictable turds. They might sieze on a public announcement and attempt to start a war.
Which is unwise for the moment. Once the buildup of our Forces is complete at the border, then its a different story altogether.
But if course, that's my viewpoint.

probably. but recall also that OBL was never attacked in paikhanistan as he never existed in paikhanistan....harami gul till the time on his deathbed claimed OBL was never there, the raid never took place. until POTUS on camera spoiled their charade.
face-saving is most important for packis.

 

[Bornubus]

Ye bhakt inke source hein

Who is this Suman Sharma, media person or just Modi Fangirl ?

Never heard of her.

 

[FRYCRY]

Who is this Suman Sharma, media person or just Modi Fangirl ?

Never heard of her.

She along with that aviator man started these rumors, her profile info states "World's 1st woman to do Sukhoi & MiG-35 sorties before Prez of India, Limca record holder, Award winning defence journo, Radha Soami sect initiated follower"

 

[Bornubus]

She along with that aviator man started these rumors, her profile info states "World's 1st woman to do Sukhoi & MiG-35 sorties before Prez of India, Limca record holder, Award winning defence journo, Radha Soami sect initiated follower"

She tried to cash her Mig 35 pilot fame and miserably failed, now a laughing stock.

 

[sasum]

Border Skirmishes and crossing over the border into enemy territory to hit a target are two different things.

And yes, a declaration indeed needs to be made in the ruling house of any democracy that is, that a nation is going to war.
US indeed declared in Capitol Hill that its going to war.. or carrying out airstrikes.

And where only special forces are involved, no declaration is ever made officially as their involvement needs to be covert to give a government deniability.

Cold Start isn't a fancy term. It's acknowledged by the Army as well.

Yes, you are right. US indeed passed resolutions whenever it went to war. But did India-Pakistan follow this convention in the past?

 

[Brood Father]

She tried to cash her Mig 35 pilot fame and miserably failed, now a laughing stock.

Let's assume she has piloted Might 35 but then also she should maintain some dignity and not go berserk into false bravado and chest thumping bhakti

Btw if these are the Armed personal of india , its high time to seriously ponder about our defence force

Bhai ab to sach mein lag raha hai kee 1 mard e momin = 10 baniya

 

[Bornubus]

Let's assume she has piloted Might 35 but then also she should maintain some dignity and not go berserk into false bravado and chest thumping bhakti

Btw if these are the Armed personal of india , its high time to seriously ponder about our defence force

Bhai ab to sach mein lag raha hai kee 1 mard e momin = 10 baniya

Part of me still believe that Pakis will pay this time. I mean no covert BS. This is the last time I am putting my trust on political dispensation.

last time.

 

[armyofhind]

Part of me still believe that Pakis will pay this time. I mean no covert BS. This is the last time I am putting my trust on political dispensation.

last time.

I seriously hope it comes to fruition too brother.
And exactly like you said, no covert BS. Total war.

 

[OneGrimPilgrim]

Let's assume she has piloted Might 35 but then also she should maintain some dignity and not go berserk into false bravado and chest thumping bhakti

Btw if these are the Armed personal of india , its high time to seriously ponder about our defence force

Bhai ab to sach mein lag raha hai kee 1 mard e momin = 10 baniya

don't know about her professional past, but she is a journalist who reports on defence.
she's been given these flying sorties on the back-seat of twin-seater aircraft by different aircraft manufacturers during the MMRCA contest and probably on the MKI by IAF too.

 

[armyofhind]

Yes, you are right. US indeed passed resolutions whenever it went to war. But did India-Pakistan follow this convention in the past?

Dunno about Pakistan but India has followed this convention.

Public address were made by Shri Lal Bahadur Shastri, Indira Gandhi and Atal Bihari Vajpayee that the nation was going to war.

 

[Bornubus]

I seriously hope it comes to fruition too brother.
And exactly like you said, no covert BS. Total war.

Don't know about others but i notice the vengeance in the eyes of Parrikar when he say this time no hollow statement.

 

[OneGrimPilgrim]

PM Modi's vow to avenge Uri won't remain just words: Manohar Parrikar

NEW DELHI: Indicating a hardening of resolve within the government, defence minister Manohar Parrikar said on Wednesday that PM Narendra Modi's promise+ to punish those behind the Uri terror attack would not remain words. "Sometimes I can have a knee jerk reaction too. But we are a responsible nation," he said. India would not be deterred by Pakistan brandishing nuclear weapons, he added.

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"...I don't think the PM's initial words that `those responsible will be punished' will go as a mere statement. How to punish, that is for us to work out," Parrikar said at an event here.

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Parrikar's comments and meetings of the CCS and the BJP core group point to intense deliberations in the government and party and indicate all options, indicating military ones, are open as it is being felt that inaction will only convince Pakistan that it can inflict deeper cuts in its proxy war against India. For a de-escalation, Pakistan would have to offer evidence of some serious and credible course corrections.

The government will not be averse to a diplomatic outcome if India's intent to use force results in some clear gains, but the BJP brass is also clear that there must a demonstrable result in light of public anger running deep. The Uri incident — a near repeat of the attack on the Pathankot air force base+ — is seen as a challenge to Modi's leadership as also BJP's campaign on nationalist issues after the JNU sedition case and recent "tiranga yatras". {They key word is *result* and not *action* though it might mean action given how loose our English usage is}

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Parrikar dismissed Pakistan's oft-repeated threat of being fully-prepared to use its 60-km Nasr missiles with subkiloton plutonium warheads as a counter to India's conventional military superiority. "Empty vessels (like Pakistan) makes bigger noise. This country (India) is a very responsible power, but that does not mean I will sleep over this kind of terrorism that is being pushed from across. How do I do it is entirely for the government under the PM to decide," he said. This comes after the Indian security establishment has provided the government with a variety of punitive but limited actions possible against Pakistan without actually going to war, which range from "surgical strikes" to "cross-border raids" by special forces or ghatak platoons of infantry battalions.

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y'day's newshour discussion on TN was very interesting. Gen. Bikram Singh and G. Parthasarthy kept repeating their confidence, careful not to reveal much, in the resolve seen with the new dispensation, the latter esp. assuring with his reputation on it. @Navnit Kundu

 

[SANITY]

If you guys remember the 15~ civilians including kids killed in POK Lanjot area in feb 2000 which was in retaliation of Killing Indian Hindus and Sikhs.


This was the perfect cross border op because to this day Pakis are asking who killed them ? Where did they come from and where did they went ?

Please read about that incident and ask yourself why all of a sudden attack on civilian villages stopped on our side.

Did we use military to kill civillians , women and kids? It doesn't seem like Pakis are uncertain about who did what. As per their brigadier, coas, vice coas, Some indian soldiers entered the village while Paki soldiers were facing heavy fire. Killed 14 civillians, 11 of them being women and children, 3 men decapitated.

 

[Bornubus]

Did we use military to kill civillians , women and kids? It doesn't seem like Pakis are uncertain about who did what. As per their brigadier, coas, vice coas, Some indian soldiers entered the village while Paki soldiers were facing heavy fire. Killed 14 civillians, 11 of them being women and children, 3 men decapitated.

There are various assets to avenge our death. You must have heard the local militia called Pir Panjal Scouts raised by Army.


And please don't bring this killing of Civilians and Paki Kids. An enemy is an enemy especially Pakis. Next you will say that APS incident was very unfortunate.


There is a reason why lines from Geeta inscribed on almost major military installation.

 

[rockey 71]

1.If this was a GOP sponsored act, and not one by Kashmiri separatists, then GOP would have known India would retaliate. The question is: what will be Pakistan's response to India's retaliation?
2. Emotions aside, I feel GOI will back out through a face saver. With a rising economy, India will not risk embroiling into a war.