Sukhoi Su 30MKI

[lixun]

This way j11 and J16 are all Chinese guinea pig, we don't know if their engine works or not?

Don't be stupid of the internet, it will stay that way for your generations to see.

Your grandson will laugh at your theory.

The gap between China and India in engines is larger than the gap between China and the United States.
J10BTVC can do two controllable Cobra maneuvers without lowering altitude. Herbst maneuver has only been done by F35 and J10B. China's flight control and TVC control are second only to the United States.

 

[MiG-29SMT]

I seem to be back in middle school,
So your picture can explain that TVC provides maneuverability, but can it explain that it provides a higher sustained turn rate? In other words, have you considered the complicated aerodynamic drag? Have you considered the complicated aerodynamic rudder surface of the aircraft? You just gave a very simple 3D model

Vertical: L - W + T sin(c) = Fv

Horizontal: T cos(c) - D = Fh

and you are ignorant less aerodynamic control is achieved by TVC nozzles in few words Su-30MKI deflects less in a turn its tailplanes and wing traling edge flaps, so it turns better than Su-30 and generates less drag than the chinese clone

 

[MiG-29SMT]

The gap between China and India in engines is larger than the gap between China and the United States.
J10BTVC can do two controllable Cobra maneuvers without lowering altitude. Herbst maneuver has only been done by F35 and J10B. China's flight control and TVC control are second only to the United States.

china is second to USA wow Russia is third haha the chinese troll with dream of greatness, the best fighter in production is Su-35 and Su-57 on thrust vectoring and you see it in airshows.

By the way India has more than 250 Su-30MKI with thrust vectoring, China only one J-10. Russia has 230 Su-30MS and Su-35

 

[lixun]

Vertical: L - W + T sin(c) = Fv

Horizontal: T cos(c) - D = Fh

and you are ignorant less aerodynamic control is achieved by TVC nozzles in few words Su-30MKI deflects less in a turn its tailplanes and wing traling edge flaps, so it turns better than Su-30 and generates less drag than the chinese clone

What does your formula show? You can solve something as complicated as aerodynamics without 3D modeling.

 

[lixun]

china is second to USA wow Russia is third haha the chinese troll with dream of greatness, the best fighter in production is Su-35 and Su-57 on thrust vectoring and you see it in airshows.

By the way India has more than 250 Su-30MKI with thrust vectoring, China only one J-10. Russia has 230 Su-30MS and Su-35

I will tell you tomorrow where is J10TVC advanced,
This video only has an uncontrollable cobra maneuver and a fallen leaf maneuver, which has nothing to do with TVC. As long as the aerodynamic design of the fighter meets the design requirements of the stall maneuver, it can be made, F-15 STOL/MTD, F/A -18E/F can also be completed, and J10 has also been demonstrated

 

[MiG-29SMT]

I will tell you tomorrow where is J10TVC advanced,
This video only has an uncontrollable cobra maneuver and a fallen leaf maneuver, which has nothing to do with TVC. As long as the aerodynamic design of the fighter meets the design requirements of the stall maneuver, it can be made, F-15 STOL/MTD, F/A -18E/F can also be completed, and J10 has also been demonstrated

J-10 can not have post stall without thrust vectoring but Su-35/Su-27 only with canards or without them has post stall even without thrust vectoring

 

[MiG-29SMT]

What does your formula show? You can solve something as complicated as aerodynamics without 3D modeling.

Su-30MKI turns better than Su-30/J-16 clone, that is what matter not your non sense comments trying sound smart but hiding that just by the formulas any one can see Su-30MKI will turn tighter

 

[KshitijB]

Su -30 made a couple of low level passes over South Mumbai. Super loud!!
Have seen some increased air activity past few days. Some exercise going on?

 

[KshitijB]

So apparently there is going to be some ceremony on 1st September wherein CM accept 'Golden Victory Flame' of '71 war and honor some war heros. 3 Sukhois will fly past the gateway at 5:30 PM. Today was a practice run for that.

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars Incermental Upgrades at the base during the schedule matinance with the Indeginious systems is the only way expect a new engine.

 

[mist_consecutive]

Ya'll Nibbiars

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J16s are surely better than Su-30MKI, at least on paper. However other Chinese Su-27 clones like J-11A/B are inferior to Su-30MKI.

Also, Su-30MKI enjoys an edge over EW and Jamming, so its survivability will increase even in presence of a high-threat environment.
Another area where Su-30MKI excels is A2G ability.

However, I will question the effectiveness of Chinese hardware.

• AESA Radar - We are yet to see an effective AESA radar from China, and no independent third party has tested it or vouched for its effectiveness.
• Missiles (PL-12, PL-15), again no proof of effectiveness. Pakistan choosing to fire AIM-120Cs over PL-12s while risking breaking the American agreement shows Pakistan may not trust PL-12s fully.
• MAWS are seriously overrated, and unless it is really refined, like for F-35/Rafale/EF2000, it is useless and often dangerous (because pilots may rely on it to detect missiles).

That being said, I will also say that our Astra is too, not battle-proven.

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars can't find other therad.

 

[Kalkioftoday]

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[rone]

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[Abdus Salem killed]

yo 50 cent army wake up again ? by the way vps ip wont be same as broadband ip ...

Stop calling everyone a Chinese

Stop spamming the video post only on a single thread

 

[jackprince]

He comes out sounding more like a China fanboy. He basically narrates everything that is available in web for free than adding or dissecting any subject in depth.

 

[lcafanboy]

 

[Nationalist Manasvi Papa]

Man this is hot

 

[hawwk]