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tharikiran
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Did you guys notice the HUD. Looks similar to that of F22.
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Yeah it's frameless..& HUUUUGE
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where are you JAKO JAKO?????????????its party time
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Great day today !!! congrats to SDB. The cross section of oval/diamond shaped nose cone does indicate that it will be having the same NIIR -Thikomirov developed AESA RADAR which was displayed in the MAKS2009!!! it appears to be a mix of SU-30,F-22 and Project1.41 to me.Lets wait for more new news!!!
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ok something more interesting for jingos:
http://warfare.ru/?linkid=2280&catid=255
Estimated Performance:
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Dimensions (m):
- wing 14,2; S=78,8 m2
- length 22
- height 6,05
Weight (kg):
- max 37000
- normal 26000
- empty 18500
Fuel (kg): 10300
Combat load (kg):
- max 7500
- AA max 2260 conformal
Speed (km/h):
- max 2100; M2,0;
- rate of climb 350 m/s
- min 0 OVT
- cruise 1300
Alt (m): 20000
Flight range (km): 4000/5500 (2x2000kg)
- supersonic 2500
Runway (m): 350 (w/o OVT)
G-force (g): 10-11
EPR: 0,05 m2
Wing overload (kg/m2):
- max 470
- normal 330
Thrust-to-weight ratio:
- max 0,84
- normal 1,19
Fuel rate: 2,55 kg/km
Flight time: 3,3 h
Engine: AL-41F (117C on first prototypes)
- thrust 2x15500/2x9800
- compressor: diameter 932mm, 3 steps
- weight 1350 kg
- pressure increase 4,2-4,5
- life time 4000 hours
- overhaul life 1500 hours
- nozzle:
weight: 380 kg
deviation angle +-16 deg in any direction, +-20 deg flat
deviation speed: 60 deg/sec
Electronics:
N050(?)BRLS AFAR/AESA
Armament: ? 2x30mm gun
Hardpoints: 10 (conf.), possible 2*4 external
should be chosen for IN?
http://warfare.ru/?linkid=2280&catid=255
Estimated Performance:
----------------------------------
Dimensions (m):
- wing 14,2; S=78,8 m2
- length 22
- height 6,05
Weight (kg):
- max 37000
- normal 26000
- empty 18500
Fuel (kg): 10300
Combat load (kg):
- max 7500
- AA max 2260 conformal
Speed (km/h):
- max 2100; M2,0;
- rate of climb 350 m/s
- min 0 OVT
- cruise 1300
Alt (m): 20000
Flight range (km): 4000/5500 (2x2000kg)
- supersonic 2500
Runway (m): 350 (w/o OVT)
G-force (g): 10-11
EPR: 0,05 m2
Wing overload (kg/m2):
- max 470
- normal 330
Thrust-to-weight ratio:
- max 0,84
- normal 1,19
Fuel rate: 2,55 kg/km
Flight time: 3,3 h
Engine: AL-41F (117C on first prototypes)
- thrust 2x15500/2x9800
- compressor: diameter 932mm, 3 steps
- weight 1350 kg
- pressure increase 4,2-4,5
- life time 4000 hours
- overhaul life 1500 hours
- nozzle:
weight: 380 kg
deviation angle +-16 deg in any direction, +-20 deg flat
deviation speed: 60 deg/sec
Electronics:
N050(?)BRLS AFAR/AESA
Armament: ? 2x30mm gun
Hardpoints: 10 (conf.), possible 2*4 external
should be chosen for IN?
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Your first hi-res images:
From the images, it would appear that the T-50 / I-21 has two large ventral bays, two side weapons' bays for short-range AAMs/AMRAAMs and from the 'translated' press release/speculation of each being able to hold two missiles (reasonably postulating the side bay for two RVV-MDs and the front ventral bay for three RVV-MDs), that'd take total internal hardpoints to 10.
It also looks very much like a VLO design. The very large, on the order of 1+ meter facets, seem to indicate low-observable characteristics in X and L band frequencies. The RCS on the VHF band should also appear minimized because of its flat profile.
With mattster, I tend to agree that the lack of a one-piece glass cockpit without partitions, but rather a canted cockpit canopy bow, was a bust.
The lack of a DSI aire inlet cone was another bust, although there seems to be what looks like a 'vertical' S-curve offest on the inlet duct to redirect boundary-layer airflow. Nice innovation!
Also a question: Aren't movable LERX's, from what they appear, going to cause substantial variation in airflow to the inlets? Or are these intended to work with thrust vectoring nozzles and/or neural network applications (and if so, then does that not compromise stealth in the aft sector)? Because, as of now, it'd appear that the aircraft's stability and maneuverability at high angles of attack is compromised by rapidly dynamic airflow over strakes.
Here, by the way, are 'estimated performance statistics' from Rob Vogelaar:
And here is yet another video:
My apologies if any of the images or video have been posted before.
From the images, it would appear that the T-50 / I-21 has two large ventral bays, two side weapons' bays for short-range AAMs/AMRAAMs and from the 'translated' press release/speculation of each being able to hold two missiles (reasonably postulating the side bay for two RVV-MDs and the front ventral bay for three RVV-MDs), that'd take total internal hardpoints to 10.
It also looks very much like a VLO design. The very large, on the order of 1+ meter facets, seem to indicate low-observable characteristics in X and L band frequencies. The RCS on the VHF band should also appear minimized because of its flat profile.
With mattster, I tend to agree that the lack of a one-piece glass cockpit without partitions, but rather a canted cockpit canopy bow, was a bust.
The lack of a DSI aire inlet cone was another bust, although there seems to be what looks like a 'vertical' S-curve offest on the inlet duct to redirect boundary-layer airflow. Nice innovation!
Also a question: Aren't movable LERX's, from what they appear, going to cause substantial variation in airflow to the inlets? Or are these intended to work with thrust vectoring nozzles and/or neural network applications (and if so, then does that not compromise stealth in the aft sector)? Because, as of now, it'd appear that the aircraft's stability and maneuverability at high angles of attack is compromised by rapidly dynamic airflow over strakes.
Here, by the way, are 'estimated performance statistics' from Rob Vogelaar:
http://www.aviationnews.eu/2009/12/...ed-taxi-trials-first-flight-early-in-january/
And here is yet another video:
My apologies if any of the images or video have been posted before.
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Well, the video doesn't show how the pak-fa's belly looks like with landing gear retracted.
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I belive there were suppose to be 3 prototypes. Just wondering whether all 3 will have same design or something different
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I don't think the maintenance will really be that bad. The composites are strong and the avionics and engines going into it are supposed to be fully digital self diagnostics. It won't be as easy as F-22 or latest Western fighters, but it is a huge improvement from Su-27/30 and so forth. The maneuvarability is a big question, the wide engine base and the small canted fins looks like they made some compromises in the design. I don't see heat signature reduction anywhere. As for what India wants, a 5th generation strike fighter, I think it will be one of the best out there. Supercruise is obvious with this design, LO technology, internal weapons bay, TVC engines, huge AESA radar, modern OLS, maybe some L-band wingtip radar, and a huge combat radius. Everything India could want, not exactly what Russia needs.
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More pics of Pak-fa
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A lot of tech will be developed and shared with the Su-35, that can share the development costs, first few prototypes will concentrate on flight performance (obviously), afterwards i think they will include rest of their radar absorbing developments (which have been quoted in the media for some time now).
I guess a more modern optical locaiton system design (like the EOTS on F-35) would be desirable, however like with western cars the more features you add, the more expensive the plane becomes, and the primary market would not want a expensive plane, (especially as India will share some of the development costs and sale profits, and PRC will go for its own platform).
I guess a more modern optical locaiton system design (like the EOTS on F-35) would be desirable, however like with western cars the more features you add, the more expensive the plane becomes, and the primary market would not want a expensive plane, (especially as India will share some of the development costs and sale profits, and PRC will go for its own platform).
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Damn we have to wait till 2016-17 for this baby in IAF.
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Yes. Those are for tests. Even the YF-22 had some when it was tested like, accelerometers and that big pointy probe like thing on the nose. Still a far cry from just being a modified flanker. It is a whole new beast. Sukhoi delivered big time.
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Press release from Sukhoi.
Sukhoi LAUNCHES Flight tests Prospective COMPLEX Frontal Aviation (PAK FA).
Today in Komsomolsk - on - Amur hosted the first flight of an experienced aviation complex of the fifth generation.
The plane was piloted honored test pilot Sergei Bogdan Russia. Prototype PAK FA spent 47 minutes in the air and landed on the runway of the factory airfield.The flight was successful, in full accordance with the flight plan. "During the flight we had a primary assessment of controllability of the aircraft, engine and major systems, the aircraft made a full-time cleaning and landing gear. The aircraft proved itself well in all phases of our intended flight program.They easily and comfortably manage ", - said Sergey Bogdan. Compared with previous generations of fighters, PAK FA has several unique features, combining the functions of attack aircraft and fighter.
Fifth generation fighter aircraft equipped with a fundamentally new avionics, the integrating function of e-pilot, and promising radar with a phased antenna array.This significantly reduces the load on the pilot and allows you to concentrate on the implementation of tactical tasks. On-board equipment of a new aircraft enables the exchange of data in real time as a land-management systems, and within the aviation group.
The use of composite materials and innovative technology, aerodynamic design aircraft, measures to reduce the visibility of the engine provides unprecedented low level of radar, optical and infrared visibility.This allows you to significantly improve the combat effectiveness in the work, both by air and ground targets, at any time of day, in simple and adverse weather conditions. "Today we started a program of flight tests of fifth generation fighter aircraft. This is a great success of Russia's science and engineering thought.For this achievement is worth more than a hundred co-operatives allied enterprises, our strategic partners. PAK FA program displays Russia's aircraft manufacturing and related industries on a qualitatively new technological level.These planes, along with modernized aviation system of the fourth generation will determine the potential of Russian military aircraft in the coming decades. The plans of the Company "Sukhoi" is included and further development of the Program PAK FA, on which we will work with Indian partners.I am confident that our joint project will surpass the Western counterparts by the criterion of cost-effectiveness and will not only strengthen the defensive power of the Air Force of Russia and India, but will take its place in the world market ", - said General Director of JSC" Sukhoi "Mikhail Pogosyan,Commenting on the start of flight testing.
Summary of fifth generation fighter aircraft. Compared with previous generations of fighters, the fifth generation has several unique features, combining the functions of attack aircraft and fighter.Fifth generation fighter aircraft equipped with a fundamentally new avionics, the integrating function of the e-pilot, and promising radar with a phased antenna array.This significantly reduces the load on the pilot and allows you to concentrate on the implementation of tactical tasks.
On-board equipment of a new aircraft enables the exchange of data in real time as a land-management systems, and within the aviation group.The use of composite materials and innovative technology, aerodynamic design aircraft, measures to reduce the visibility of the engine provides unprecedented low level of radar, optical and infrared visibility.This allows you to significantly improve the combat effectiveness in the work, both by air and ground targets, at any time of day, in simple and adverse weather conditions.Low visibility, aircraft performance and maneuverability allow to minimize the threat to the pilot, at the expense of the fifth generation fighter aircraft have increased survivability in difficult combat conditions, with the active counter air defense systems.
Increased radius of combat use leads to greater autonomy of the fifth generation fighter aircraft in the implementation of the planned combat missions. Fifth generation fighter aircraft will complement the fleet of modernized aircraft complexes of the fourth generation, as well as to replace the aging fleet of combat aircraft.In the long term availability of the fifth generation aircraft in service will allow customers to optimize and structure of the park, due to repeated increase combat effectiveness and capacity to address a broader range of tasks with a single plane.Program to create long-term aviation system of the fifth generation is a technological breakthrough in the domestic aircraft industry, which allows to maintain a stable leading position of Russia on the international market of combat aircraft.In the world aviation there is a unique analogue of fifth generation fighter aircraft - is the F-35, a product of Lockheed Martin.
The plans of the Company "Sukhoi" is the further development of the Program to create a fifth generation fighter aircraft and the creation of modification of aircraft with Indian partners.The joint project will surpass the Western equivalent to the criterion of cost-effectiveness and will not only strengthen the defensive power of the Air Force of Russia and India, but will take a worthy place in the world market.
http://pilot.strizhi.info/2010/01/28/7484
Sukhoi LAUNCHES Flight tests Prospective COMPLEX Frontal Aviation (PAK FA).
Today in Komsomolsk - on - Amur hosted the first flight of an experienced aviation complex of the fifth generation.
The plane was piloted honored test pilot Sergei Bogdan Russia. Prototype PAK FA spent 47 minutes in the air and landed on the runway of the factory airfield.The flight was successful, in full accordance with the flight plan. "During the flight we had a primary assessment of controllability of the aircraft, engine and major systems, the aircraft made a full-time cleaning and landing gear. The aircraft proved itself well in all phases of our intended flight program.They easily and comfortably manage ", - said Sergey Bogdan. Compared with previous generations of fighters, PAK FA has several unique features, combining the functions of attack aircraft and fighter.
Fifth generation fighter aircraft equipped with a fundamentally new avionics, the integrating function of e-pilot, and promising radar with a phased antenna array.This significantly reduces the load on the pilot and allows you to concentrate on the implementation of tactical tasks. On-board equipment of a new aircraft enables the exchange of data in real time as a land-management systems, and within the aviation group.
The use of composite materials and innovative technology, aerodynamic design aircraft, measures to reduce the visibility of the engine provides unprecedented low level of radar, optical and infrared visibility.This allows you to significantly improve the combat effectiveness in the work, both by air and ground targets, at any time of day, in simple and adverse weather conditions. "Today we started a program of flight tests of fifth generation fighter aircraft. This is a great success of Russia's science and engineering thought.For this achievement is worth more than a hundred co-operatives allied enterprises, our strategic partners. PAK FA program displays Russia's aircraft manufacturing and related industries on a qualitatively new technological level.These planes, along with modernized aviation system of the fourth generation will determine the potential of Russian military aircraft in the coming decades. The plans of the Company "Sukhoi" is included and further development of the Program PAK FA, on which we will work with Indian partners.I am confident that our joint project will surpass the Western counterparts by the criterion of cost-effectiveness and will not only strengthen the defensive power of the Air Force of Russia and India, but will take its place in the world market
", - said General Director of JSC" Sukhoi "Mikhail Pogosyan,Commenting on the start of flight testing. Summary of fifth generation fighter aircraft. Compared with previous generations of fighters, the fifth generation has several unique features, combining the functions of attack aircraft and fighter.Fifth generation fighter aircraft equipped with a fundamentally new avionics, the integrating function of the e-pilot, and promising radar with a phased antenna array.This significantly reduces the load on the pilot and allows you to concentrate on the implementation of tactical tasks.
On-board equipment of a new aircraft enables the exchange of data in real time as a land-management systems, and within the aviation group.The use of composite materials and innovative technology, aerodynamic design aircraft, measures to reduce the visibility of the engine provides unprecedented low level of radar, optical and infrared visibility.This allows you to significantly improve the combat effectiveness in the work, both by air and ground targets, at any time of day, in simple and adverse weather conditions.Low visibility, aircraft performance and maneuverability allow to minimize the threat to the pilot, at the expense of the fifth generation fighter aircraft have increased survivability in difficult combat conditions, with the active counter air defense systems.
Increased radius of combat use leads to greater autonomy of the fifth generation fighter aircraft in the implementation of the planned combat missions. Fifth generation fighter aircraft will complement the fleet of modernized aircraft complexes of the fourth generation, as well as to replace the aging fleet of combat aircraft.In the long term availability of the fifth generation aircraft in service will allow customers to optimize and structure of the park, due to repeated increase combat effectiveness and capacity to address a broader range of tasks with a single plane.Program to create long-term aviation system of the fifth generation is a technological breakthrough in the domestic aircraft industry, which allows to maintain a stable leading position of Russia on the international market of combat aircraft.In the world aviation there is a unique analogue of fifth generation fighter aircraft - is the F-35, a product of Lockheed Martin.
The plans of the Company "Sukhoi" is the further development of the Program to create a fifth generation fighter aircraft and the creation of modification of aircraft with Indian partners.
The joint project will surpass the Western equivalent to the criterion of cost-effectiveness and will not only strengthen the defensive power of the Air Force of Russia and India, but will take a worthy place in the world market. http://pilot.strizhi.info/2010/01/28/7484
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The YF-22 didn't have all those rivots...
I will give it is not a Flanker variant, although you can still see the Flanker in it.
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That's normal even the raptor has some traits of the Eagle.
if you compare it with the yf-22 the similarities are even more evident.
if you compare it with the yf-22 the similarities are even more evident.
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http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20100129/157715602.htmlhttp://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20100129/157715602.html
The first batch of Russian fifth-generation fighters will go into service in 2013, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said on Friday.
A prototype of the future fighter made a succesful 47-minute maiden flight on Friday in Russia's Far East.
["The first Russian fifth-generation fighters will be put into service with the Air Force in 2013, and regular deliveries will start in 2015," Putin said.
He added that the development of the aircraft was still underway and the flight tests would continue.
"A lot still has to be done [to make the fighter operational]...both in terms of the engines and weaponry," Putin said.
Russia has been developing its newest fighter since the 1990s. The current prototype, dubbed T-50, was designed by the Sukhoi design bureau and built at a plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur.
Russian officials have already hailed the fighter as "a unique combat plane" which combines the capabilities of a heavy air superiority fighter and a strike aircraft.
MOSCOW, January 29 (RIA Novosti)
The first batch of Russian fifth-generation fighters will go into service in 2013, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said on Friday.
A prototype of the future fighter made a succesful 47-minute maiden flight on Friday in Russia's Far East.
["The first Russian fifth-generation fighters will be put into service with the Air Force in 2013, and regular deliveries will start in 2015," Putin said.
He added that the development of the aircraft was still underway and the flight tests would continue.
"A lot still has to be done [to make the fighter operational]...both in terms of the engines and weaponry," Putin said.
Russia has been developing its newest fighter since the 1990s. The current prototype, dubbed T-50, was designed by the Sukhoi design bureau and built at a plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur.
Russian officials have already hailed the fighter as "a unique combat plane" which combines the capabilities of a heavy air superiority fighter and a strike aircraft.
MOSCOW, January 29 (RIA Novosti)
