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SU-57 has 2 large internal weapons bays which are arranged in tandem, and which run nearly the entire useable length of the aircraft. Each of these Weopons bays can carry up to 4 K-77M beyond visual range radar-guided missiles{BVR}.

Any clue about how good is SU-57 in BVR? It's Stealth profile will definitely allow it to have an edge against 4th Generation Aircrafts. By the way I had seen some problems say that Su-57 has the same RCS of a clean F/A-18 {I laughed so hard when I read them {:lol:}

that is what i say west has been able to create a narrative with their marketing particularly USA, fa 18 growlers are very good dedicated EW aircraft but do we know su30mki with sap 514 and 518 jammers have similar capabilities? NO because they were not marketed as good ,source--https://twitter.com/hvtiaf/status/1236607364700073984?s=20&t=8RKTVLlBxrNkUOKA2GoWXQ (account belongs to harsh vardhan thakur sir, pilot iaf)
 

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they are misinterpreting the patent ,it says average rcs and that too without RAM,where f22 or f35 quote frontal rcs
 

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that is what i say west has been able to create a narrative with their marketing particularly USA, fa 18 growlers are very good dedicated EW aircraft but do we know su30mki with sap 514 and 518 jammers have similar capabilities? NO because they were not marketed as good ,source--https://twitter.com/hvtiaf/status/1236607364700073984?s=20&t=8RKTVLlBxrNkUOKA2GoWXQ (account belongs to harsh vardhan thakur sir, pilot iaf)
You are right. Anyways I am excited to see some Future updates with regards to SU-57. I have been following some basic updates about it on a regular Basis. Thank you. End of Discussion.
 

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the production model showed improvements over prototypes like "rivets visible"
I myself was very shocked and disappointed at 1st when I saw Rivets on the SU-57. Later I went to realise that SU-57 with exposed "rivets" was a Prototype. The actual Production Model of SU-57 has several Coatings of RAM ,has no kind of Exposed rivets and the Airframe is much smoother as a whole.

It is said that Every aircraft has rivets, but LO(Low Observable) platforms use special rivets so as to not compromise stealth. Even the Production Models have a form of rivets but They have been covered up by the RAM coating of the SU-57.
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btw if su57 is able to carry hypersonic cruise missiles in iwb in future no matter how much you criticize it ,it can wreak havoc on adversary ,currently only k29 mk2 with 500km range is operational but even if a missile with 400km range but hypersonic comes they will deadly
If SU-57 would have come with Such a Weopon
Package of:
  • Hypersonic Missiles.
  • long range BVR(150kms+)
Than I would have wished that we would have bought atleast 2-3 squadrons. I wish we didn't leave FGFA project with Russia and gone ahead with the Developments but unfortunately we had no other choice other than to abandon the program.

There were many reasons for it. I would have been so happy to see this plane in IAF service but I guess we have focus on AMCA only.
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I heard some News in October 2021 that the Russians were developing a hypersonic anti-ship missile to be used from the SU-57.

The Anti Ship missile, called the Larchinka-MD, was being developed to replace the Kh-31 supersonic anti-ship missile. I also heard that they wanted to use it from the Internal Weopons Bay of the SU-57.

Anyways SU-57 has a very Potent Weopon package. If we had bought SU-57 than imagine the edge we would have had Against Pakistan and possibly even Chinese J-20.
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Do Check out this video made by Grim reapers which shows a BVR Fight scenario between F-22 Raptor and SU-57.
(Finally a DCS Video on BVR Fight between SU-57 and F-22)(It's a very new video just Uploaded yesterday)
 

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dcs is not something to trust upon , regarding su57 there are two prime concerns
1. aesa radar -- russians are late to join the west here , f35 is state of the art with electronic attack capability
2. sensor fusion -- no 4.5 gen russian jet has sensor fusion so its their first attempt
 

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BEST 4.5 GEN FIGHTER
I would not say it that way. I will say it this way: "SU-57 is the best 4.5 gen Aircraft and the Worst 5th Generation Aircraft in the history of Aviation. Let's see how the Russians Improve it's Capabilities.

I personally consider the SU-57 to be a True 5th gen Aircraft though.
 

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I would not say it that way. I will say it this way: "SU-57 is the best 4.5 gen Aircraft and the Worst 5th Generation Aircraft in the history of Aviation. Let's see how the Russians Improve it's Capabilities.

I personally consider the SU-57 to be a True 5th gen Aircraft though.
how can you say worst 5th gen fighter ??

what abt AZM and TAI TFX :hehe::hehe::hehe:
 

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how can you say worst 5th gen fighter ??

what abt AZM and TAI TFX :hehe::hehe::hehe:
When I say Worst 5th gen, than I mean Operational 5th Generation Aircraft. As of today, there are only 4 Operational 5th Gen Aircrafts, they are:
  1. Chengdu J-20
  2. F-22 Raptor
  3. F-35 Lighting
  4. SU-57
And why are you bringing Project AZM and TAI-FX into the Argument? None of these Aircrafts are operational. Heck they don't even have a prototype of them! They are only on paper. I am was comparing the current 5th generation fighters.

Hope you understand what I am saying. Thank you.
 

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Two new Su-57s in Novosibirsk


February 4th, 2:56 AM
Novosibirsk spotters captured two new fifth-generation Su-57 fighters, which made an intermediate landing at Novosibirsk Tolmachevo airport on February 3, 2022, while transferring to their bases in the European part of Russia. Judging by these photographs, two Yu.A. Gagarin (KnAAZ, a branch of PJSC "Company" Sukhoi "as part of the UAC) new Su-57 fighters have red tail numbers "02" and "52".




Two aircraft factory named after Yu.A. Gagarin (KnAAZ, a branch of Sukhoi Company PJSC) of new serial Su-57 fighters (red tail numbers "02" and "52") during an intermediate landing at Novosibirsk Tolmachevo Airport during the transfer to bases in the European part of Russia, 03.02. 2022 (c) NSK Planes





The Su-57 aircraft with tail number "02 red" has not been "lit up" before. This machine bears on board the emblem of the 929th State Flight Test Center named after V.P. Chkalov of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in Akhtubinsk (Astrakhan Region), and, apparently, is intended for this unit. Recall that the first serial Su-57 fighter (T-50S-2 aircraft, serial number 51002) produced by KnAAZ received at the end of January 2021 by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation received tail number "01" (originally blue), and, according to known data, was also transferred to the 929th GLITs in Akhtubinsk.

The second Su-57 aircraft, now filmed in Novosibirsk, has tail number "52 red" and previously flashed in a KnAAZ promotional video, but with tail number "52" in blue. Interestingly, this aircraft in Novosibirsk carries the registration number RF-81775 on its keels. Previously, this registration number RF-81775 was briefly used during the deployment to Syria in early 2018 on the last, tenth flight prototype of the PAK FA - the T-50-11 aircraft with tail number "511".

It can be assumed that the new Su-57 with tail number "52 red" may enter the 4th Order of Lenin of the Red Banner Center for military testing and training of personnel of the VKS named after V.P. Chkalov of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation at the Lipetsk airfield.

As our blog has already reported, at the end of 2021, KnAAZ handed over two serial Su-57 fighters to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, which corresponded to the planned task of the plant. These two Su-57 aircraft transferred to the Russian Aerospace Forces, presumably, have serial numbers 52201 (T-50S-3) and 52202 (T-50S-4), and are the third and fourth production Su-57s built by KnAAZ.

Recall that in August 2018, at the International Military-Technical Forum "Army-2018", the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and PJSC "Company" Sukhoi "signed a contract for the supply to the Armed Forces of the first two serial fighters of the fifth generation Su-57 (in the guise of T- 50С - T-50С-1 and Т-50С-2 boards) with engines of the "first stage" ("product 117"). The terms of the contract were 2018-2020, with the delivery of one aircraft in 2019 and 2020. In June 2019, at the Army-2019 International Military-Technical Forum, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and Sukhoi Company PJSC signed a contract for the supply of a total of 76 fifth-generation Su-57 serial fighters to the Armed Forces (including the first two contracted in 2018 aircraft). The term of the contract is 2027.

The first serial Su-57 aircraft (T-50S-1 aircraft, serial number 51001, tail number "01 blue"), built at KnAAZ, made its first flight in Komsomolsk-on-Amur in early December 2019 and was planned to be transferred to the Ministry of Defense On December 27, but on December 24, 2019, at the final stage of factory testing, it crashed as a result of an accident, due, presumably, to a failure in the aircraft control system.

Flight tests of the second of two production models of the Su-57 fighter contracted in 2018 (T-50S-2 aircraft, serial number 51002) began in Komsomolsk-on-Amur in October 2020, he also received the tail number "01 blue", and was commissioned in December 2020, but only on January 29, 2021 was it officially transferred to the Ministry of Defense.

Now the next two serial Su-57 fighters, built in 2021, have been handed over to their bases. According to previously published information, KnAAZ plans to hand over four Su-57s in 2022.



 

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