Sukhoi PAK FA

[SARTHAK]

The traditions of IAF say that ant bhala toh sab bhala doesn’t happen without phoren imports.
AMCA already had less weapon capacity and was further reduced to 4 from earlier 5 missiles so AMCA is just for stealth, IAF will still need a 5th gen weapons truck and that is Su-57.

su57 has a chance but not in near future as 36 f4 rafales are almost confirmed (will also be good for settling offset deal issue with dassault) but in 2025-2026 india would be looking at just few squads (36 units) of su57 to stop gap amca

 

[SARTHAK]

At best, the answer is, maybe. But it will also have russian engines.

UK's policy towards India is vastly influenced by USA's foreign diplomacy so it would be unnecessarily clumsy for India to invest in tempest,India only needs a stop gap as Amca mk2 (6th gen) will arrive by 2034

 

[FalconSlayers]

su57 has a chance but not in near future as 36 f4 rafales are almost confirmed (will also be good for settling offset deal issue with dassault) but in 2025-2026 india would be looking at just few squads (36 units) of su57 to stop gap amca

Not stop gap AMCA, Fact that you need
1. Purchasing weapons only way to keep Russia on your side
2. AMCA already had only 5 internal hardpoints which are now reduced to just 4, so it is not a flying tank.
3. Su-57 will give an edge in 5th generation air superiority.
4. Su-57 will help us increase squadron strength.
5. The Izdeliye 30 Engine on Su-57 is a reliable engine and on par with western specs of lifespan.

 

[Ghost hale]

Not stop gap AMCA, Fact that you need
1. Purchasing weapons only way to keep Russia on your side

Weapons agree. Su-57 highly debatable.

2. AMCA already had only 5 internal hardpoints which are now reduced to just 4, so it is not a flying tank.

6 in IWB for Su-57. Not a tank itself.

3. Su-57 will give an edge in 5th generation air superiority.
4. Su-57 will help us increase squadron strength.

Both true.

5. The Izdeliye 30 Engine on Su-57 is a reliable engine and on par with western specs of lifespan.

Not developed. Not even sure on timelines.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Weapons agree. Su-57 highly debatable.

6 in IWB for Su-57. Not a tank itself.

Both true.

Not developed. Not even sure on timelines.

I wish we had gone for sidebays Too.

 

[JBH22]

Not stop gap AMCA, Fact that you need
1. Purchasing weapons only way to keep Russia on your side
2. AMCA already had only 5 internal hardpoints which are now reduced to just 4, so it is not a flying tank.
3. Su-57 will give an edge in 5th generation air superiority.
4. Su-57 will help us increase squadron strength.
5. The Izdeliye 30 Engine on Su-57 is a reliable engine and on par with western specs of lifespan.

Just for the learning curve it is a good suggestion. 2 squadrons will also allow IAF to give direction to the AMCA program.

 

[SARTHAK]

Not stop gap AMCA, Fact that you need
1. Purchasing weapons only way to keep Russia on your side
2. AMCA already had only 5 internal hardpoints which are now reduced to just 4, so it is not a flying tank.
3. Su-57 will give an edge in 5th generation air superiority.
4. Su-57 will help us increase squadron strength.
5. The Izdeliye 30 Engine on Su-57 is a reliable engine and on par with western specs of lifespan.

for weapon tank role rafale f4 and orca(tedbf af version) will be there

 

[FalconSlayers]

for weapon tank role rafale f4 and orca(tedbf af version) will be there

Stealth weapon tank.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Just for the learning curve it is a good suggestion. 2 squadrons will also allow IAF to give direction to the AMCA program.

And will give a deterrence to our enemies.

 

[Lonewolf]

And will give a deterrence to our enemies.

Sidebays are for mk 2 , as per member , maybe they wanna keep weight in check to give some limited supercruise at least .

Mk 2 will be chonkier , also we would have some real money by then so maybe we fast track upgraded engine based on this engine based kn the basic engine we develop in jv

 

[SARTHAK]

Stealth weapon tank.

then make external stealthy weapon pods for amca to carry more weapons

 

[Kchontha]

Lets import all the fgfa available on the market. Ha

 

[bhramos]

 

[bhramos]

 

[WolfPack86]

Russia Ready To Discuss The Sale Of Su-57, Su-35 Fighter Jets With Turkey – FSMTC
Russia is ready to negotiate with the deliveries of fifth-gen fighters Su-57 and generation 4++ fighters Su-35 with Turkey, as well as to cooperate in the development of the latest Turkish combat aircraft, Valeria Reshetnikova, the spokeswoman of the Russian Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSMTC), told reporters.

Earlier, Turkish Industry and Technology Minister Mustafa Varank told Sputnik that Ankara did not rule out the possibility of buying Su-35s and Su-57s, but the priority was to develop its own fifth-generation fighters.

“As for the potential plans for Ankara to purchase Russian Su-35 and Su-57 fighters, it is worth noting that the Turkish side is fully informed about their technical specifications. If there is an application from Turkey for these aircraft, we are ready to negotiate this issue,” Reshetnikova said.

She noted that Turkey had been intending for a long time to implement the project of its own fifth-generation fighter TF-X and Russia is ready to cooperate on this program if it receives a request.

Russia Ready To Discuss The Sale Of Su-57, Su-35 Fighter Jets With Turkey - FSMTC

Russia is ready to negotiate with the deliveries of fifth-gen fighters Su-57 and generation 4++ fighters Su-35 with Turkey, as well as to cooperate in the development of the latest Turkish combat aircraft, Valeria Reshetnikova, the spokeswoman of the Russian Federal Service for...

eurasiantimes.com

 

[Lonewolf]

Russia Ready To Discuss The Sale Of Su-57, Su-35 Fighter Jets With Turkey – FSMTC
Russia is ready to negotiate with the deliveries of fifth-gen fighters Su-57 and generation 4++ fighters Su-35 with Turkey, as well as to cooperate in the development of the latest Turkish combat aircraft, Valeria Reshetnikova, the spokeswoman of the Russian Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSMTC), told reporters.

Earlier, Turkish Industry and Technology Minister Mustafa Varank told Sputnik that Ankara did not rule out the possibility of buying Su-35s and Su-57s, but the priority was to develop its own fifth-generation fighters.

“As for the potential plans for Ankara to purchase Russian Su-35 and Su-57 fighters, it is worth noting that the Turkish side is fully informed about their technical specifications. If there is an application from Turkey for these aircraft, we are ready to negotiate this issue,” Reshetnikova said.

She noted that Turkey had been intending for a long time to implement the project of its own fifth-generation fighter TF-X and Russia is ready to cooperate on this program if it receives a request.

Russia Ready To Discuss The Sale Of Su-57, Su-35 Fighter Jets With Turkey - FSMTC

Russia is ready to negotiate with the deliveries of fifth-gen fighters Su-57 and generation 4++ fighters Su-35 with Turkey, as well as to cooperate in the development of the latest Turkish combat aircraft, Valeria Reshetnikova, the spokeswoman of the Russian Federal Service for...

eurasiantimes.com

So Turks are no same path of pakistan importing and painting it green , nice to hear su 57 is getting customer , design is much improved from initial design

 

[panzerfeist1]

Get India involved as well on TAI-TFX, that would be fucking dope as hell if 3 countries work on the aircraft.

 

[Lonewolf]

Get India involved as well on TAI-TFX, that would be fucking dope as hell if 3 countries work on the aircraft.

Turkey under fanatic erDOGan ,no thanks , he would fuck his country's resources but never consider India .

TBH Tf x is a pipe dream without russian or european involvement , they want to develop a indigenous engine as well as a stealth aircraft , in addition to that they want loyal wingman type drones too , that would cost them 80 billion , a small fleet acquisition added , more than 10% of gdp ...!

Either they involve ruskies or brace for economical impact

 

[Marliii]

Turkey under fanatic erDOGan ,no thanks , he would fuck his country's resources but never consider India .

TBH Tf x is a pipe dream without russian or european involvement , they want to develop a indigenous engine as well as a stealth aircraft , in addition to that they want loyal wingman type drones too , that would cost them 80 billion , a small fleet acquisition added , more than 10% of gdp ...!

Either they involve ruskies or brace for economical impact

With the recent Ukraine issues ruskies are some what doped

 

[bhramos]

So Turks are no same path of pakistan importing and painting it green , nice to hear su 57 is getting customer , design is much improved from initial design

Su-57 1st outside costumer is Algeria...