Sukhoi PAK FA

[gadeshi]

The same flight video, now - in HD:

 

[Sancho]

The most expected after Item 30 engine are 4 weapons types remaining to certify from 14 new promised

Do you have new infos on the weapon integration and loadouts of the internal weapon bays?

 

[gadeshi]

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[lcafanboy]

Russia'
Russia flies first Su-57 fitted with new Product 30 engine

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• 05 DECEMBER, 2017
  
• SOURCE: FLIGHTGLOBAL.COM
  
• BY: STEPHEN TRIMBLE
  
• WASHINGTON DC

Russia’s latest fighter aircraft flew on 5 December for the first time with the NPO Saturn “Product 30” engine, which will be the production standard for the Sukhoi Su-57.

Sukhoi has built and flown nine flight test prototypes of the Su-57 fighter powered by NPO Saturn Product 117 engines, which are derived from the AL-41F-1S afterburning turbofans developed for the Su-35.


But the Russian air force plans to replace the Product 117 in series production starting in 2020 with the Product 30 engines, possibly featuring a new engine core of which few details are known.


Russian government officials have said the Product 30 will provide more thrust and fuel efficiency, with reduced weight and maintenance requirements.

Sukhoi

The 5 December test flight by Sukhoi chief test pilot Sergei Bogdan from the Gromov flight test centre at Zhukovsky AB lasted 17min, according to Russia’s Ministry for Industry and Trade.

Photos and video of the flight shows the Product 30 installed in the No. 1, or port-side, engine position, with a Product 117 engine remaining on the starboard side. The Product 30 features a serrated engine nozzle, compared to the flat nozzle on the Product 117.

The flight test was conducted by the second Su-57 aircraft prototype, also known as T-50-2.

"This is proof of the high potential of Russian aircraft building, capable of creating highly intelligent advanced systems," says Russian Industry and Trade minister Denis Manturov.

The Su-57 is expected to enter service as Russia’s first so-called fifth-generation fighter after the end of this decade, featuring some stealth technology, along with internal weapons bays and advanced sensors, including active electronically scanned array (AESA) radars and infrared search and track cameras.

Government testing of the Su-57 prototypes is nearing the end of the first stage, according to the Ministry of Industry and Trade.

The Putin government is still assembling the next multi-year state armaments plan, which will decide the timing and the number of Su-57s purchased through 2027. But the Ministry of Industry and Trade still the current plan remains on track, with the Su-57 becoming Sukhoi’s largest military product by 2020.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/a...lies-first-su-57-fitted-with-new-prod-443899/

 

[thegopnik]

"SU-57’s entry into service to be delayed until 2020." Come on I dont want to wait in the 2020s. I need more details on the current radar of the SU-57, The god damn IRST specs and all that other good shit about the SU-57. I want 2019 with old engines. Remember engines are interchangeable. If its a success than let them produce it than change it later. It feels like forever and at most that is already bothersome. Even the F-35 wont have a similar DIRCM like the SU-57 in the late 2020s. Block 3F is to be done in 2018 meaning block 4 is 2020. Block 5 is when they are using DIRCM similar to the SU-57 blinding missile warheads.....If the.F-35 is operational already so should the SU-57 I read some articles and Russia's defense minister still promised the 1st batch of 12 for 2019. Just saying let it be operational by 2019 than make changes later thats what the F-35 is doing.

 

[gadeshi]

"SU-57’s entry into service to be delayed until 2020." Come on I dont want to wait in the 2020s. I need more details on the current radar of the SU-57, The god damn IRST specs and all that other good shit about the SU-57. I want 2019 with old engines. Remember engines are interchangeable. If its a success than let them produce it than change it later. It feels like forever and at most that is already bothersome.

LRIP-1 will be ready and inducted for joint military trials in 2019 with Item 117 onboard. Real serial production will start in 2020 with Item 30 already. What disturbs you in a such big manner?

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[thegopnik]

LRIP-1 will be ready and inducted for joint military trials in 2019 with Item 117 onboard. Real serial production will start in 2020 with Item 30 already. What disturbs you in a such big manner?

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thanks for clarifying that now I am super excited.

 

[WolfPack86]

I am very much delighted to hear that Item 30 engine will enter Russian Pak Fa fighter in 2020. It is high time that Indian Govt should order 65 Pak Fa fighter on self for Indian Air Force. It is bit suprise for me Russian working very fast i am guessing that FGFA deal is going very smoothly and be signed very soon.:bounce:

 

[Sancho]

I am very much delighted to hear that Item 30 engine will enter Russian Pak Fa fighter in 2020. It is high time that Indian Govt should order 65 Pak Fa fighter on self for Indian Air Force. It is bit suprise for me Russian working very fast i am guessing that FGFA deal is going very smoothly and be signed very soon.:bounce:

Let's hope so, Indo-Russian relationships took a hit with the NDA government and we already are too late in the project to have a meaningful participation, but Su 57 / FGFA is critical for Indias defence.

 

[thegopnik]

Jo Asakura is a fucking monster if anyone clicked on his profile in key forum publishing regarding the SU-57......I dont get it at all is he a Russian using what sounds like a fake Japanese name? Because I dont know where the fuck he gets all these Russian sources from? https://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=242634&d=1450302929 and https://forum.keypublishing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=242633&d=1450302872 The translation

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In 2014 experimental-fabrication development programmes of 4 types of highly dynamic monolithic microwave amplifiers under the codename "Odnotsvetnik-21" for use in radar-electronic complexes of advanced weapons, was completed...

Development was undertaken simultaneously with development of production [technologies]. Under the R&D programme, four types of gallium nitride microwave integrated circuit modules were developed (M421364-1, M421364-2, M421374 and M421375). The technical parameters of the designed modules are World class and in the near future will be used in advanced radar-electronic weapons systems and military equipment...

The technical performance "Odnotsvetnik-21" corresponds to World class achievements in the field of microwave electronics. The new amplifiers will allow for a [more than] 10 times improvement in weight and size parameters of the receivers in radar and electronic warfare avionics, in such complexes as "Khibiny-M", "Rubella-4", "Himalaya", "Tarantula", while improving the noise figure, and would eliminate the the use of foreign-made products in a number of communications systems.
"Today we are witnessing a generational change in technologies, which provide for an order of magnitude leap in improving the parameters of solid-state power amplifiers. The scientific and technological concern "Roselectronika" facilitates the realisation of many projects based on GaN technology - without the use of foreign developments (import substitution)".

Aleksey Dorofeyev,
Chief Director 'Odnotsvetnik-21' programme

So in other words the EW systems of the SU-57 will be using GaN MMICs as we can all see Himalaya as one of the EW systems....I know the tarantula and khlibiny as well but I never heard of the Rubella-4.

ALSO GADESHI sorry for doubting you http://www.i-mash.ru/news/nov_otrasl/44702-pak-fa-ukomplektujut-cifrovymi-raketami.html However I find it unclear if the radar on the SU-57 is using DAESA because the missiles are using digital arrays.

 

[WolfPack86]

HAL UNITS CAN’T BE ALLOWED TO BE IDLE: MINISTER: MOS DEFENCE
Minister appreciates involvement of private organisations and MSMEs in design and developments of products

Minister of state for defence Subhash Bhamre has assured Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) that work load for its Nashik unit will continue to flow even after Su30-MKI manufacturing and production activities conclude in the next few years.

“HAL has the world class facilities and given the successful integration of BrahMos on Su-30 MKI, 40 more aircraft will undergo such integration. HAL can partially shift its light combat aircraft LCA manufacturing at Nashik and there is possibility of fifth generation fighter aircraft work happening at Nashik,” he said at a Public Private Partnership (PPP) Summit under Make-in-India at HAL Nashik.

Expressing concern over HAL’s order book beyond 2020-21, Bhamre said, “HAL’s facility is of national importance and cannot be allowed to be idle. With the availability of modern infrastructure and expertise, additional orders on HAL would help IAF bridge the gap between the existing and desired squadron strength in the shortest possible time. This is possible with the PPP.”

He highlighted that the delivery of 100th empennage assemblies also affirms the successful PPP in outsourcing of aircraft assemblies, first time in the country. It has become role model under Make in India program, he stated. It should be the future model not only of the HAL but other companies too, he said. There is a need for larger ecosystem of private enterprises to transform themselves for greater participation in the aerospace sector to support Make in India.

HAL has been instrumental in nurturing a competitive aviation eco-system by partnering with private industries as outsourced partners with more than 30 percent of HAL’s man-hours being outsourced, he said.

Bhamre said it is commendable that private organisations including MSMEs are being engaged in design and developments of products and technologies.
http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2017/12/hal-units-cant-be-allowed-to-be-idle.html

 

[WolfPack86]

MOS Defence just confirm manufacturing FGFA fighters at HAL Nashik plant. I hope govt should conclude FGFA deal quickly. “HAL has the world class facilities and given the successful integration of BrahMos on Su-30 MKI, 40 more aircraft will undergo such integration. HAL can partially shift its light combat aircraft LCA manufacturing at Nashik and there is possibility of fifth generation fighter aircraft work happening at Nashik,” he said at a Public Private Partnership (PPP) Summit under Make-in-India at HAL Nashik.

 

[sthf]

Someone correct me if I am wrong, LCA has 3 assembly lines, each capable of churning out 8 units when functioning at full capacity so where does the problem lies?

Shouldn't 24 units a year in addition to whatever Rafale or FGFA lines come up with take care of this absurdity called sanctioned squadron strength?

 

[gadeshi]

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[WolfPack86]

DEEPER DEFENCE & SECURITY COOPERATION WITH RUSSIA ENHANCES INDIA'S STRATEGIC CHOICES
Russia and India are taking steps to address the perceived drift in their relations. High level visits are continuing. Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov visited Delhi earlier this month for Russia-India-China trilateral meeting. Russia's deputy prime minister Dmitry Rogozin is visiting India on Saturday for a high level comprehensive review of Indo-Russian relations.

While both sides have taken steps to diversify bilateral relations, the most substantive part of the strategic partnership still remains the military-technical cooperation. The Indo-Russian Governmental Commission on Military Technical Cooperation (IRGCMTC) is the apex institution for reviewing and guiding the military technical cooperation between the two countries in entirety. Jointly headed by the deputy prime minister on the Russian side and the defence minister on the Indian side, it is supported by two working groups and seven sub groups.

In the recent past, the two sides have concluded agreements on the supply of S-400 air defence system, construction of frigates and the manufacture of KA-226T helicopters. An Inter-Governmental Agreement (IGA) on the manufacturing of Russian KA-226T helicopters through the joint venture route under 'Make in India' programme has also been signed. As per the IGA, 60 helicopters will be manufactured in Russia and 140 in India.

Despite the diversification in India's defence procurements, Russia remains and will remain a critical supplier of defence equipment to India for a long time. According to SIPRI, Russia accounted for 68% of India's arms import during 2012-16 as compared to 14% from the US and 7.2% from Israel.

While these figure are based on estimates by SIPRI, they capture the trend reasonably well. The nature of bilateral defence cooperation between the two countries has undergone positive change in the recent years. There is now a greater emphasis on joint design, development and production of high-technology military equipment.

The production of Brahmos cruise missile by an Indo-Russian joint venture (JV) company Brahmos Pvt Ltd is an example of successful Indo-Russian joint R&D and production. The JV has an authorized capital of $250 million with Indian equity share of 50.5% and Russian share of 49.5%. The highly potent cruise missile can be fired from ships, submarines, aircraft and land. On November 22, the air version of Brahmos was tested from SU-30MKI fighter aircraft.

The Indo-Russian defence cooperation is not without problems. The Russians are anxiously watching India's diversification efforts. The 2007 Inter-Governmental Agreement on joint development and co-production of the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) has made little progress. There appear to be some misgivings about the project on the Indian side. According to media reports, the Indo-Russian joint venture to manufacture a medium airlift military transport aircraft has not made progress. The delays in the procurement of spare parts from Russian manufactures and the high prices is a perennially sore issue for Indian consumers.

Yet, there is considerable untapped potential in Indo-Russian defence cooperation. New ideas should be tried out. Can, for instance, Russia help in the further improvement of India's indigenously developed light combat aircraft, Tejas? Can the two sides cooperate on manufacturing submarines? Despite setbacks in some areas, fresh avenues for cooperation are worth exploring. Time is ripe to involve Indian private sector companies into Indo-Russian defence joint ventures.

The 'Make in India' programme can be leveraged to do so. Two major military-industrial conferences of Indian companies and Russian OEMs have been held in Delhi and Moscow in 2017. The conferences discussed life cycle support to Russian platforms and how the buyer-seller relationship can be transformed into a partnership for the joint production of advanced defence systems. The Russian side showed interest in forming joint ventures to localize manufacturing spare parts in India.

India and Russia are strategic partners of long standing. The defence relationship should not be limited to the narrow technical aspects only. Fortunately, the scope of Indo-Russian defence cooperation has been widened to include high level military exchanges and joint exercises between the armed forces of two countries. Joint naval exercise were held in Russia's Far-East in 2016 and between the ground forces of the two countries in Rajasthan in 2015. For the first time, joint tri-service INDRA exercises were held in Vladivostok in October 2017. Though belated, these are welcome developments.

The Indian navy with Russian help can also gain some experience in operating in the Arctic Sea. Deeper defence and security cooperation with Russia is good for India as it enhances India's strategic choices. The scepticism about Russia, prevalent in a section of Indian strategic circles, is unwarranted.
http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2017/12/deeper-defence-security-cooperation.html

 

[WolfPack86]

I hope India and Russia seal FGFA deal by december 31st 2017. It will be great new year gift for the people of India especially for Indian Air Force.

 

[gadeshi]

On Friday, December the 22-th 2017 the final T-50 flight prototype T-50-10 (1-10) has conducted its maiden flight.
Waiting for photos and videos.

And while we're waiting let's amuse ourselves with the other protos photos

 

[WolfPack86]

Indian FGFA is flying.

 

[WolfPack86]

Russia's Deputy PM interacting with Indian Defence Minister Nirmala Sitharaman.

 

[WolfPack86]

I hope FGFA deal will be signed in December 31st 2017. It will be very good new year gift for IAF.