Sukhoi PAK FA

[nrj]

What will be the NATO reporting name of this bird???

Fulcrum
Flanker
????

Sukhoi Firefox......

 

[nrj]

The carrier's air wing is to comprise 26 new Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29K Fulcrum-D multi-role fighter aircraft, helicopters and navalized Sukhoi T-50 PAK FA (Future Frontline Aircraft System) fifth-generation fighters, currently under development. It appears that 15-20 of these aircraft will be built pending the ship's re-launching, which is likely to take place in 2020 rather than 2017.

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Will PAK FA be able to do VTOL? Initially its not necessary in order to be carrier born IMO....

 

[Agantrope]

VTOL???
The it will be a technology break-through for the india as this will be useful for the NGFA. But do we have a carrier for having the PAK-FA in its decks??

 

[nrj]

VTOL???
The it will be a technology break-through for the india as this will be useful for the NGFA. But do we have a carrier for having the PAK-FA in its decks??

We definitely have carriers. IAC-2 following as soon as IAC-1 enters weapon/systems fittings. 5 ACs till next decade as of INs requirement i heard.
I'm still skeptical about NGFA though. I really dont think there is need of VTOL initially on PAK FA (considering it'll be navalised). Folded wing config & reduced take off distance will be enough....

 

[Armand2REP]

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Will PAK FA be able to do VTOL? Initially its not necessary in order to be carrier born IMO....

No, PAK FA will never be able to VTOL. It is far too large nor would it have internal bays if you have to add a lift fan.

 

[nrj]

No, PAK FA will never be able to VTOL. It is far too large nor would it have internal bays if you have to add a lift fan.

exactly...

Now will non-availability of VTOL in PAK FA will let F35 eat the market share?

 

[gogbot]

We definitely have carriers. IAC-2 following as soon as IAC-1 enters weapon/systems fittings.

IAC2 is still on the drawing board pending a re-design to use catapults (CATOBAR) as opposed to the current STOBAR configuration

5 ACs till next decade as of INs requirement i heard.

3 AC's , 5 is the vision.

I'm still skeptical about NGFA though.

That is how it should be , NFGA is only speculative, you wont see anything about this deacade

I really dont think there is need of VTOL initially on PAK FA (considering it'll be navalised). Folded wing config & reduced take off distance will be enough....

exactly...

Now will non-availability of VTOL in PAK FA will let F35 eat the market share?

No , it wont.

There are three version of the F-35 on sale

F-35A - standard F-35 5th gen fighter , internal weapons bay . NO VTOL

F-35B- VTOL but as a result , very limited internal weapons bay , can carry much only a handful of missiles, as a result weapons have to mounted on the exterior defeating the stealth , but it can also fly with lmited ammunition meaning it can still underatake 5th gen air missions and then let the dirty F-35B's with external weapons fly ground bombing missions

F-35C - this is the carrier version of the F-35A , build to work from a carrier with no vtol. This is the versio n being inducted but the US navy.

VTOL on stealth aircraft is not very effective as it eats up space meant for an internal weapons bay. But its short take-off an f alnding still makes it very useful as it is the only 5th gen fighter that can do that.

Since our IAC and Vikramaditya don't use CATOBAR like American carriers , and are also smaller

Our navy is only considering the F-35B as a possible alternative for us.

Only IAC2 will be larger with CATOBAR , If NFGA come along only it will be able to field ti

FGFA will still sell , for air forces everywhere. especially those that have to face F-35's

 

[Armand2REP]

exactly...

Now will non-availability of VTOL in PAK FA will let F35 eat the market share?

The only real market for F-35B are countries with pocket carriers. Most of those are US allies anyways so there isn't much of a market for it from the Russian end. No countries except India outside of that purchased Harriers.

 

[nrj]

IAC2 is still on the drawing board pending a re-design to use catapults (CATOBAR) as opposed to the current STOBAR configuration

3 AC's , 5 is the vision.


That is how it should be , NFGA is only speculative, you wont see anything about this deacade



No , it wont.

There are three version of the F-35 on sale

F-35A - standard F-35 5th gen fighter , internal weapons bay . NO VTOL

F-35B- VTOL but as a result , very limited internal weapons bay , can carry much only a handful of missiles, as a result weapons have to mounted on the exterior defeating the stealth , but it can also fly with lmited ammunition meaning it can still underatake 5th gen air missions and then let the dirty F-35B's with external weapons fly ground bombing missions

F-35C - this is the carrier version of the F-35A , build to work from a carrier with no vtol. This is the versio n being inducted but the US navy.

VTOL on stealth aircraft is not very effective as it eats up space meant for an internal weapons bay. But its short take-off an f alnding still makes it very useful as it is the only 5th gen fighter that can do that.

Since our IAC and Vikramaditya don't use CATOBAR like American carriers , and are also smaller

Our navy is only considering the F-35B as a possible alternative for us.

Only IAC2 will be larger with CATOBAR , If NFGA come along only it will be able to field ti

FGFA will still sell , for air forces everywhere. especially those that have to face F-35's

Dude i know this...

 

[Quickgun Murugan]

What will be the NATO reporting name of this bird???

Fulcrum
Flanker
????

Fulcrum beta version 5.0

 

[ppgj]

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Will PAK FA be able to do VTOL? Initially its not necessary in order to be carrier born IMO....

it can't. and from your source -

The carrier will also receive aircraft catapults, a logical option. Considering the fact that her ski-jump will remain intact, one or two catapults can be located on the angled flight deck.

it is clear - either they will have to use catapults or STOBAR mechanism.

 

[Agantrope]

Fulcrum beta version 5.0

lol!!! typical software engg.

Why isnt the VTOL impossible in the PAK-FA?? If the STOBAR are to be used, theya re going get deployed in the old warships or what??

 

[Anshu Attri]

http://www.aviaport.ru/digest/2010/02/08/190025.html

SIBUR - RUSSIAN TYRES HAS DEVELOPED A TIRE FOR A FIFTH-GENERATION FIGHTER



Holding Sibur - Russian Tyres "under contract with the Sukhoi Design Bureau has developed a new tire for multifunctional fifth generation fighter. This was reported in the press service of the company.

January 29, 2010 entered into the history of Russian aviation as a special day: made its first flight multifunctional fifth generation fighter aircraft T-50 (design name). Along with the aircraft started the process of flight tests of a new state of aviation tires 1050h365-508 modes. 1A, developed by holding Sibur - Russian Tyres, under a contract with JSC Sukhoi Design Bureau. "

Development of multifunctional fifth generation fighter, the Sukhoi Design Bureau, was carried out in close cooperation with a large number of specialists in all branches of domestic industry, including the Design Bureau JSC Yaroslavl Tire Plant, which is the holding company "Sibur - Russian Tyres."

Holding "Sibur - Russian Tyres is a major producer of Russian aviashin, its share in total production is over 60%. The range of products - tires for civil aviation, military aircraft and special purpose tire. Holding has a unique country in the specialized design bureau to develop aircraft tires, which created 95% of domestic aviashin.

Under the agreement with JSC Sukhoi Design Bureau developed a draft tires, training of production, perfected the design and preliminary testing of a new tire 1050h365-508 mod . 1A, intended for the main landing gear facility T-50. The design of the tire on its load and speed characteristics is fully consistent with the requirements of the multifunctional fifth generation fighter, taking into account reserves on its further development.

 

[bassi.gurjeet]

hi to all of u ...i wanna to know y india want Pakfa(FGFA) dual seater instead of single seater ....wht is adv of dual seater then single seater Pakfa(FGFA ) ?

 

[Anshu Attri]

http://www.brahmand.com/news/Flight-testing-of-Russias-fifth-gen-fighter-continues/3801/1/30.html

Flight testing of Russia's fifth-gen fighter continues

MOSCOW (BNS): Russia's fifth-generation fighter aircraft PAK FA has undergone a fresh round of flight test near here last week.

The combat aircraft took to the skies from the Zhukovsky air base in southeast of Moscow on April 29, 2010, Arms-Tass reported. The aircraft was piloted by Sergey Bogdan, it said.

The PAK FA aircraft entered flight testing on January 29, 2010, by making its maiden flight over the sky of Komsomolsk-on-Amur city for nearly 45 minutes.

The aircraft since then has undergone a series of flight tests to validate its prowess.

The supersonic PAK FA with a range of 5,500 km is expected to enter service with the Russian Air Force in 2015. India, which is a partner in the project, intends to acquire 50 such fighters for its air force.

The aircraft, manufactured by Sukhoi Corporation, has been designed to compete with the US' F-22 Raptor and F-35 Lightening-II fifth-generation fighters.

The PAK FA has a take-off weight exceeding 30 tons. It has widely spread engines plus two fins and its exteriors have been designed by using stealth technology.

The aircraft is equipped with the latest avionics, implementing functions of electronic 'autopilot', and state-of-the-art radar with a phase-locked antenna array. It also has an in-flight fuelling capability.

 

[Anshu Attri]

pak fa aeromodelling......

http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=208082

 

[Anshu Attri]

pak fa aeromodelling......2

 

[Daredevil]

hi to all of u ...i wanna to know y india want Pakfa(FGFA) dual seater instead of single seater ....wht is adv of dual seater then single seater Pakfa(FGFA ) ?

Please go through this thread where your question has been answered.

http://www.defenceforum.in/forum/showthread.php?8302-Why-does-IAF-emphasize-on-twin-seaters

 

[Armand2REP]

hi to all of u ...i wanna to know y india want Pakfa(FGFA) dual seater instead of single seater ....wht is adv of dual seater then single seater Pakfa(FGFA ) ?

Its simple... two seaters are used as bombers. IAF wants a strike aircraft instead of just the air-superiority the Russians want.

 

[gogbot]

Its simple... two seaters are used as bombers. IAF wants a strike aircraft instead of just the air-superiority the Russians want.

Would be the same for

MMRCA
MKI

??

Your explanation is not a very accurate one.

Two man crew's are more expensive
They have to work together , and may not get along
Needing two pilots for every aircraft mean the 250 FGFA india plans to order , will need 550 pilots , as well as reserves.

Performance is always reduced in varying degree with the addition of extra weight and such due to the second seat.

But twin seat pilots , enjoy a significant advantage , in the battle situation as opposed to their singe seat pilots.

For starters the operations on the plane and the flying of the plane can be split between the pilots.
The multi-tasking and situational awareness of the aircraft will go up instantly.