Sukhoi PAK FA

[IndianHawk]

Any update on PAK FA ?? Anyone .
And any more details about FGFA ??

 

[Filtercoffee]

Any update on PAK FA ?? Anyone .
And any more details about FGFA ??

No details hawk, all the items ordered will be delivered.

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[gadeshi]

UAC CEO Eugeniy Marchukov has greeted his collective for Item 30 first launch:

 

[gadeshi]

T-50-8 (1-08) has conducted its maiden flight todays morning from the ramp of KnAAZ in Komsomolsk on Amur!
Waiting for photos and videos!

 

[tharun]

Just answer my question when we see FGFA in indian colours..?

 

[Chinmoy]

Just answer my question when we see FGFA in indian colours..?

FGFA???? Even its preliminary design has not been freeze............. Let PAK-FA reach its IOC standard first.

 

[tharun]

FGFA???? Even its preliminary design has not been freeze............. Let PAK-FA reach its IOC standard first.

What PAK-FA still at IOC...

 

[Chinmoy]

What PAK-FA still at IOC...

Not even there yet. If I am not wrong T-50-8 would be first to fly with an integrated cannon. @gadeshi would be able to shed more light.

 

[gadeshi]

What PAK-FA still at IOC...

What's so weird?
The first LRIP (a 12-plane squadron) will start in January 2017, so the first planes from it will be delivered in January 2018.

 

[gadeshi]

Not even there yet. If I am not wrong T-50-8 would be first to fly with an integrated cannon. @gadeshi would be able to shed more light.

The first cannon-integrated was T-50-5/5R (1-05/05R).
T-50-9 (1-09) will be the first with Stage 2 airframe design changes frozen (expecting it this December or January 2017).
T-50-11 (1-11) and T-50-12 (1-12) will be the first full-scale PAK FA specimens with airframe, avionics changes frozen and Item 30 engines.
Next will be those LRIP-1 that I've mentioned above. This first squadron will be all 12 identical to 1-11 and 1-12.

 

[Chinmoy]

The first cannon-integrated was T-50-5/5R (1-05/05R).
T-50-9 (1-09) will be the first with Stage 2 airframe design changes frozen (expecting it this December or January 2017).
T-50-11 (1-11) and T-50-12 (1-12) will be the first full-scale PAK FA specimens with airframe, avionics changes frozen and Item 30 engines.
Next will be those LRIP-1 that I've mentioned above. This first squadron will be all 12 identical to 1-11 and 1-12.

Thats it........... Only after reaching maturity, FGFA would be discussed based on it.

 

[gadeshi]

Thats it........... Only after reaching maturity, FGFA would be discussed based on it.

Not exactly
Indian engineers insisted to participate in PAK FA maturity process as observers for early start.

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[Chinmoy]

Not exactly
Indian engineers insisted to participate in PAK FA maturity process as observers for early start.

Отправлено с моего XT1080 через Tapatalk

But FGFA is based on PAK-FA. Even if India engineers get involved in the development process, you can't expect them to freeze the design unless and until a fully functional PAK-FA with all its avionics and stable air frame in flying in Air.

 

[BON PLAN]

What's so weird?
The first LRIP (a 12-plane squadron) will start in January 2017, so the first planes from it will be delivered in January 2018.

If you see the same lead time of F35, IOC may takes time. Anf the russian bird is also a very ambitious program, ie with some bad surprises in the developpment.

 

[republic_roi97]

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[Indx TechStyle]

India’s Stealth Fighter will be Superior to China’s J-20 and Russia’s PAK FA T-50; will also Launch BrahMos - ChinaTopix

HAL's concept for India's stealth fighter. (Photo : HAL)

India's new fifth generation stealth fighter will be superior in key aspects to Russia's PAK FA T-50 from which it's derived, and will also have the added advantage of being able to fire the newest iteration of the fearsome BrahMos cruise missile, the BrahMos NG.

And as the PAK FA is already superior to China's Chengdu J-20 low observable fighter, this means the Indian stealth jet will also be superior to the J-20.

Indian media reports said India's as yet unnamed stealth fighter will include a total of 43 improvements over the PAK FA T-50, making it superior in many key aspects to the Russian fighter, of which only six have been produced because they cost over $100 million apiece.

That's far too expensive for a battered Russian economy still crippled by Western sanctions triggered by Russia's illegal annexation of the Crimea in 2014.

The Indian stealth fighter will be superior in stealth, supercruise, advanced sensors, networking and combat avionics to PAK FA.

Under a co-development deal, India will develop one prototype while Russia will develop another. The Indian version will be a two-seat fighter manned by a pilot and a Weapon Systems Operator. The Russian version will be a traditional single seat stealth fighter like the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II.

India wants its indigenous stealth fighter jet to become operational with the Indian Air Force before 2025. It plans to build as many as 127 stealth fighters.

India's Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) project will be developed and produced by the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) at its facility in Nashik at an estimated cost of $25 billion.

"The agreement has been completed on our end; we are ready to sign it. It is now down to the Indian side. There are some formalities to figure out, but I think it will be signed by the end of this year," said Sergei Chemezov, CEO of Russian weapons maker Rostech Corporation.

Chemzov noted the project "will produce a state of the art fighter jet, and it will be the result of the work on Russia's most modern technology done by both Russian and Indian engineers. As fifth generation, it means fifth generation speed, ballistics and military equipment, avionics and stealth capabilities among other qualities."

A significant advantage to the Indian stealth fighter will be its ability to loft and launch BrahMos-NG (Next Generation), a lighter, smaller but deadlier version of the original BrahMos built to destroy enemy warships.

Also called mini-BrahMos, this new version will be 50 percent lighter than the original version but will be just as fast at Mach 3.5 (4,300 km/h). Expected to become operational after 2018, BrahMos-NG will have a far smaller radar cross section or RCS than its predecessor, making it far more difficult to locate and destroy.

BrahMos-NG will arm the Indian Air Force's Sukhoi Su-30MKI air superiority fighter; Mikoyan MiG-29K carrier-based multirole fighter; HAL Tejas Light Attack Fighter for land and carrier use and the Dassault Rafale multirole fighter, of which 36 have been purchased by India.

The SU-30MKI will be able to carry three BrahMos-NGs while the other combat aircraft will carry one each. It's not known how many BrahMos-NGs India's new stealth fighter will carry.

 

[gadeshi]

India’s Stealth Fighter will be Superior to China’s J-20 and Russia’s PAK FA T-50; will also Launch BrahMos - ChinaTopix

HAL's concept for India's stealth fighter. (Photo : HAL)

Resembles some inadequate fanboy's raving...

 

[IndianHawk]

Resembles some inadequate fanboy's raving...

Maybe . But India is actually looking for 43 changes in the PAK FA as per reports.( If they are improvements is debatable)

There has to be some reason to it .
Only climate adjustments won't require that many changes.

 

[gadeshi]

Maybe . But India is actually looking for 43 changes in the PAK FA as per reports.( If they are improvements is debatable)
There has to be some reason to it .
Only climate adjustments won't require that many changes.

Make in India (c), bro!
There will be a bunch of Indian indigenous components, which is quite normal, but none of them will be critical though...

 

[IndianHawk]

Make in India (c), bro!
There will be a bunch of Indian indigenous components, which is quite normal, but none of them will be critical though...

Not just Indian there will also be many western component which will give it critical edge .

Anyway if FGFA is going to be twin seater it's a completely different beast then.