Sukhoi PAK FA

[sorcerer]

RT - T-50 Pak Fa Stealth Fighter Has RCS Of Tennis Ball With Passive Stealth Technology [1080p]

 

[Anikastha]

The mighty Saturn AL-41F1S that powers the Sukhoi Su-35 and the PAK FA – Photo: Kris Hull | AirlineReporter

http://www.airlinereporter.com/2015/09/thoughts-on-maks-2015-moscow-airshow/

Holly ........this is bigger than mine ..i mean my toy fighter plane..
This much big engine means ...i can estimate size daddy PAK-FA

 

[gadeshi]

MAKS-2015:

 

[gadeshi]

Another MAKS photos:

 

[Anikastha]

I have one small doubt, I read many times that during red flag exercise IAF men takes gap of 1-2 mins to scramble another aircraft ..I m speaking about su-30mki..
@gadeshi Do U know why?

 

[gadeshi]

I haven't seen such an info, so cannot comment without knowing details.

 

[Anikastha]

let me search and tag you again.

 

[Anikastha]

@gadeshi
http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/su-30-mki.1363/page-58
Read post #1146
He says russian engines are prone to Foriegn particles..why so?

 

[gadeshi]

Do you put anything you've found on the street into your mouse? don't you?
So why do you believe any unpoven posts from the Internet?

Russian engines are not equipped with built-in foreign particles protection (why to do so if you have such a protective devices in your intakes???).
Scramble delays may be caused by the communication equipment and procedures incompatibility with NATO standards used in USA and Europe. So the start procedure needs propably some additional checks with flight control tower or so.
Engines cannot make scremble procedure longer or shorter - only a take-off speed and climbing rate, which are more than OK for MKIs.

 

[gadeshi]

Russian MOD 2-nd Secretary Yuriy Borisov has visited KNAAZ:
Yuriy Borisov has visited PAK FA, Su-35S, Su-30M2 and Su-27SM3 assembly lines, RAM application chamber, new aluminium machining and halvanics lines. Also Yuriy Borisov has visited flight test station (LIS) and has reported that he is pleased with defence orders progress.
Source:
http://www.aviaport.ru/digest/2015/09/07/357995.html

 

[Yumdoot]

The One minute myth came about because of Col. Fornoff who said:

“Firstly, the Tumansky engines are very susceptible to FOD (foreign object damage). Now the reason that’s a big deal is because they asked for a one-minute spacing between take offs. At Red Flag with nearly 50-60 aircraft supposed to take off, if you have one person who will wait one minute between each take off to launch these six aircraft... yeah.... right, they can go find some other place to fly.”

And he added: “They were very concerned about FOD and how Russian engines are not nearly as reliable as American (ones).”

Ignore the trivia mistakes but here is a Russian site putting out its own POV on the 1 minute interval requested. And it does sound much more plausible, given the Russians would be far far more interested in explaining the 'problems' if any, compared to the IAF.

Remember those 2 engines total some 250 KN of energy release. Nearly three times an F-16.

http://in.rbth.com/blogs/2014/03/10/dissecting_a_dogfight_sukhoi_vs_usaf_at_red_flag_2008_33623.html

Gone in 60 seconds
The IAF insisted on a 60-second interval for a very valid reason. When a jet takes off, the resulting turbulence can kick up foreign objects from the runway, which may get sucked into the engines of the aircraft taking off behind it. Now, the Su-30MKI engines are serviced in Russia. What the Russians do when a damaged engine arrives from India is they send a brand new ‘courtesy’ engine as replacement while the old one is being repaired or serviced, in order not to impact the IAF’s readiness.

While at Nellis, the IAF had absolutely no way of getting a new engine had a Sukhoi engine got damaged. Plus, the Russians would have been decidedly cagey about shipping one of their top-of-the line power plants to an American address.

Col. Fornoff and most westerners are idiots. They don't have the right reason with them because they have decided to lie.

The right reason was given by Indian Journalist quoted below:

Pushpindar Singh Chopra, editor, Vayu Aerospace Review, believes the Americans downplayed the Sukhoi’s capability because the alternative would be to acknowledge the IAF had spooked the USAF yet again.

“Mission achievement rate was in excess of 90 per cent,” he says. “The drop out/mission success rates of all others, inclusive of the USAF, were significantly lower. This is of major significance considering the fact that IAF was sustaining operations 20,000 km away from home base while the USAF was at home.”

In fact, the Sukhois flew some 850 hours during the deployment, which is equivalent to four months of flying in India.

IAF already knew that they would have to do all that flying so far away from home base without hope of back ups and with exceedingly high Mission availability rates with just:

The IAF contingent – comprising six Flankers, two Illyushin IL-78MKI tankers and one IL-76MD transport

It was a purely operational requirement and since both IAF and USAF were keen on having Su30s (perhaps even the Russians and Chinese were salivating), it made sense to agree to a 6 minute of extra time in the overall exercise planning for 24 hours worth of flight windows in the exercise. If Fornoff thought that was unacceptable then he should have taken that up with USAF who 'invited' the IAF. We Indians would hardly have cared.

My suspicion also is that the Su30MKI had been experiencing some difficulties related to turbine starters also due to the tougher HI-HO conditions in India. And Red Flag is centered around Nellis in Las Vegas desert, which are going to be equally tough on Russian engines.

 

[gadeshi]

T-50 performances on MAKS-2015:

 

[gadeshi]

A new flight suite with ZSh-10 helmet + HMDS on MAKS-2015:

OLS-50M and sideways weapons bay (БГрО) optical systems section:

 

[blue marlin]

nice pic of the t-50

 

[gadeshi]

This is the old ones and not real

 

[Chinmoy]

How Russia’s Sukhoi PAK FA Stacks Up Against The U.S. F-22 Raptor
Posted By: Vikas ShuklaPosted date: September 10, 2015 02:15:14 PMIn: Politics, RussiaNo Comments
The U.S. F-22 Raptor is the only operational fifth-generation fighter jet in the world. Russia has been investing heavily in its own fifth-generation Sukhoi T-50 PAK FA. The T-50 is expected to join the Russian Air Force in late 2016 or early 2017. The development has fueled a debate on how the F-22 Raptor would fare against Russia's deadliest fighter jet.


Image Credit: Wikipedia/Alex Beltyukov

F-22 and T-50 have a lot in common
Defense analyst Dave Majumdar says that both the fighter jets have a lot in common. The PAK FA has been optimized as a fast, stealthy, and high-flying air superiority fighter. The two have an equivalent service ceiling of approximately 65,000 feet. Russia's PAK FA has a maximum speed of 1,520 mph, slightly higher than F-22's 1,500 mph. Sukhoi PAK FA has a range of 2,175 miles compared to 1,820 miles for the F-22 Raptor.

Both the F-22 and PAK FA are twin-engine, single-seat, stealthy multi-role fighters. In terms of kinematics, the F-22 has an edge, but they will be comparable once the T-50 PAK FA is fitted with new engines. PAK FA currently relies on the Izdeliye 117 engines, which limits the capabilities of its airframe. The more advanced Izdeliye 30 engines are still under development.

Russia's PAK FA beats F-22 in maneuverability
In terms of stealth features, the U.S. jet is far superior. Majumdar notes that the T-50's design places little emphasis on all-aspect low observables. The Russian jet focuses on frontal aspect stealth. However, the Sukhoi PAK FA has some other aces up its sleeves. The Russian jet has a huge advantage in maneuverability.

The T-50 PAK FA is equipped with three-dimensional thrust vectoring. The Russian jet also boasts of a helmet-mounted cuing system and the Vympel R-73 air-to-air missile that is capable of tracking and hitting targets at high off-boresight angles. Majumdar concludes that both the fighter jets have advantages over each other. The debate over which one is better won't be settled until PAK FA and F-22 Raptor meet in combat.

I really liked the last line :biggrin2:

 

[sorcerer]

Russian PAK FA Fifth Generation Fighter Performs Spin Maneuver (VIDEO)
The video published by the TV channel Zvezda shows a PAK FA prototype easily decelerate to 0 kmh and perform a spin without a flaw.

As for maneuvering capabilities, the T-50 is considered to have absolutely no rivals both among its Russian-made predecessors and foreign competitors.

For a regular jet fighter, there is nothing special in performing some aerobatic maneuvers. However, the PAK FA is capable of performing them all, including Nesterov’s loop, tailside, barrel roll, and even cobra.


Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150808/1025534939.html#ixzz3lRyGDe8F

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150808/1025534939.html#ixzz3lRy4fVKW

 

[Illusive]

Let IAF test-fly fifth-generation fighter aircraft, India asks Russia

NEW DELHI: Ahead of PM Narendra Modi's visit to Mos cow in December, India has asked Russia to allow IAF test pilots to fly its fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) to evaluate its capabilities.

"Flight-testing will help decide the way forward on the collaboration between the two countries on the FGFA. All options, ranging from an off-the-shelf purchase of 60-65 jets to joint production, are on the table," said a top defence ministry official on Friday.

The fact that India needs an FGFA, which combines stealth, super-cruise capability, super-maneuverability data fusion and multi-sensor integration on a single fighter, in the years ahead cannot be disputed.

For a country that is yet to even make its first indigenous fighter (the fourth-generation Tejas) fully-operational, the choice is limited While the FA-22 'Raptor' of the US is the world's only fully-operational FGFA as of now, the Russian Sukhoi T-50 and the American F-35 'Lightning-II' Joint Strike Fighter are the ones undergoing final developmental tests.

But having repeatedly rejected the FGFA overtures made by the US, India was slated to seal the project to codevelop and co-produce the Sukhoi T-50 with Russia at least three years ago. It was after all way back in 7 that the Indo-Russian in 2007 that the Indo-Russian inter-governmental agreement for the FGFA was inked. It was followed by the $295 million preliminary design contract in December 2010.

India, along the way , also slashed its requirement from the original 166 single-seat and 48 twin-seat fighters to just 127 single-seat jets. The overall FGFA project cost for making all the 127 fighters in India was pegged at around $25 billion.

But technical, cost and delivery timeframe wrangles have kept the final design contract -under which both sides were to chip in an initial $5.5 billion each for prototype development and infrastructure - far away from being inked till now."The off-the-shelf purchase is being considered since the final R&D contract may take more time," said the source.

A cash-starved Russia, which is now cranking up its arms sales to Pakistan much to India's discomfiture, hopes Modi's visit will break the logjam on the FGFA. India, in turn, wants Russia to "compress" the delivery timeframe to around 36 months from the original 94 months, as was first reported by TOI.


Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

 

[NLD]

Source:Idrw

India Open to Buy Off-the-shelf
Russian Stealth Fighters,
Collaboration on Su-30 MKI
Upgrade Likely?


As China inches ahead with the flight testing of
its first fifth-generation J-20 stealth fighters,
India is reportedly mulling over the option of
making better of its rock-steady friendship with
Russia by buying its off-the-shelf Sukhoi T-50
(also known as PAK FA) stealth fighter.
A recent report in the Economic Times quoted a
top official of ministry of defence as saying that
India has kept all the options on the table. That
includes possibility of India buying about 60-65
jets off-the-shelf to joint production of the most
advanced stealth fighter jet in Russian aircraft
inventory.
The official also suggested the possibility of
Indian Air Force pilots flight-testing the Russian
stealth bomber as it hopes to break the logjam
involved with the Indo-Russian collaboration on
fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) project
and to assess the capabilities of the new jet
ahead of the state visit by Prime Minister
Narendra Modi to Moscow in December 2015.
With India foreseeing the induction of these
advanced stealth jets by 2020, there has been no
much movement on the FGFA programme since
it was inked in 2007. Originally, India was
expected to have about 200 jets, which later
came down to 127. A recent report in The
Tribune pointed towards India cutting it down to
65 jets or 3 squadrons strong.
Sukhoi PAK FA T-50 is comparable with
American F-22 ‘Raptor’ in many parameters.
Indian Air Force is in need of one such aircraft
that combines stealth, ability to super-cruise,
super-manoeuvrability, combat avionics and
integration of multi-sensors.
Since the FGFA programme will take time to
take off, buying T-50 stealth jets will be a
stopgap arrangement, giving the state-run
Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) time to test
and manufacture the aircraft in India. India is
seeking 43 improvements in T-50 suiting Indian
conditions.
Additionally, with the US and Europe imposing
sanctions on Russia over its alleged involvement
in Ukraine crisis, Moscow is reportedly looking to
“compress” the delivery time from the initial 94
months to 36 months.
This comes as India has scrapped its MMRCA
(medium multi-role combat aircraft) project and
opted for only 36 Rafale fighter jets from France
through the government-to-government route.
India is still struggling to get the indigenous
fourth generation fighter aircraft, Tejas LCA fully
operational.
Meanwhile, India is reportedly looking for
collaborating with Russian companies in
modernising its SU-30MKI aircraft (NATO
reporting name, Flanker-H), the most advanced
multirole air superiority fighters with the IAF.
This also follows recommendation by the Russian
defence ministry to make upgrades to its fleet of
SU-30SM aircraft. The upgraded aircraft will be
featuring improved avionics, radar and engines.
Russia has shared a special place with India,
apart from being its special strategic partner,
though recent media reports suggested that
Russia was endearing itself to the Pakistan Army
and the civilian government.
Reports suggested the possibility of it exporting
its latest Su-35 fighter jets after having agreed to
sell multirole Mi-35M attack helicopters. But a
recent statement from the Russian embassy has
cleared doubts of the country taking decisions
that are detrimental to the security and safety of
India.
“Time and again, the Russian leaders have
stated at the highest level that Russia will never
take any steps detrimental to the security and
safety of our special and privileged strategic
partner? India, or the security structure in the
South Asian region, or any other region for that
matter,” the statement said, reported PTI
“This assurance is fully valid today as it was
valid yesterday. This is the guideline of our
President’s foreign policy concept,” it said.
“As regards the newspaper report from Nizhni
Tagil, it is a sheer case of overstatement by the
agency, on the one hand, and of overreaction by
a section of the Indian media, – on the other,” it
added.
According to estimates provided by the Russian
Federal Service for Military-Technical
Cooperation, Russia delivered $4.7 billion worth
of weapons and military hardware to India in
2014.

 

[Chinmoy]

@gadeshi what is in there to reduce the heat signature in T-50?