Sukhoi PAK FA
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I mean both are muslims... so they can help each other
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2022-223 is too late..
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oops sorry ..I should have done some research before posting.By the way thanks for your info .
It's nowhere on the google.
https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&r...L9vtR2fAhepcuTjrwZdLHnQ&bvm=bv.85464276,d.c2E
I wonder why this hasn't seen much attention!
I wonder why this hasn't seen much attention!
The key is search "t-50" and tap on 'news' below the search bar.:thumb:
The Russian airforce is happy with this early version of the t 50 . This is because the VVS has not made any large purchase since the fall of the USSR unlike the IAF that went for the SU 30MKI .Now they will standardize around the Su35 and t 50 .https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&r...L9vtR2fAhepcuTjrwZdLHnQ&bvm=bv.85464276,d.c2E
I wonder why this hasn't seen much attention!
TASS: Russia - Russia's Air Force, naval aviation to get over 200 aircraft, helicopters in 2015
It is the same thing with their tank fleet they will standardise everything around the armata platform . Don't miss this years victory day parade . A lot of new equipment will be unveiled there .
They are also developing the Skat system(UCAV) and the MiG 35s are going to be replaced with the Mikoyan LMFS (under devpt).
I feel the Russians are falsely being antagonized by the west and Ukraine is being made the sacrifice in order to malign the Russians.
I wish that Modi develops strong relations with all 3 great powers : US, Russia and China and keeps some joint cooperation of sorts to unite our countries and instead of pitting each other against one of us, we must know terror(bakistan) is the common enemy.
Mass induction of T-50 PakFa begins in 2016 for Russia. Aren't we supposed to get ~120 T-50 single seat variants too?
(repost of link : First series of T-50 aircrafts has entered the Russian Air Force | Russia & India Report)
The timeline on the T-50 infographic must be right then? Can anyone verify?
(repost of link : First series of T-50 aircrafts has entered the Russian Air Force | Russia & India Report)
The timeline on the T-50 infographic must be right then? Can anyone verify?
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We should see how much of common components India can design, develop and build in FGFA, that is common across for both LCAs and AMCAs. The long term should be LCA, AMCA, and a future All Stealth Fighter that can take on Raptor to end-game - as vision 2030ish. We can do it, if we get our rot cleansed up on the designs and next generation technologies.
The joint engine development deal signed with the US should come into play as fast as possible. Taking on the Raptor should not be the target as none of our enemies have or foresee-ably will be able to have the F-22 Raptor as it has ended production and won't be sold to any country. The F-35 might be a potential threat, but it is a single engine and comparatively weaker plane which should be no problem for the FGFA or the Su-50. The AMCA on the other hand is looking to be a Multirole fighter to replace the jaguars and mig-27s with less air superiority capabilities.
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Well, I was just saying Raptor but we don't have to look at it as within our Enemy Space threat perception. We can't be complacent about it, nor sleep on with LCA technologies like we did since Marut. Heck, like the chinesed checker game, we can even make a few pawns become queens. Why not better than Raptor? Just to give a nudge for the mindset change.
F-35/22 technologies and components are what I was talking
- Super Cruise Engine Technologies
- LPI, switch mode advanced AlGaN AESA
- Passive Scan & Track for stealth (like it has on the raptor wings)
- Common communication comp for all a/cs
- Common weapons integration platform capability
- Internal weapons bay
- Stealth skins - permeable skins, but internal deflectors, and designed for aerodynamics rather stealth shapes
- retractables/technology aspects/ pods - multiple use - fuel, IR jammer decoy pods etc.
- 360* TVCs - Actually I would rely on jammers and pod based decoys than reduce rear IR. not worth it
- etc.
F-35/22 technologies and components are what I was talking
- Super Cruise Engine Technologies
- LPI, switch mode advanced AlGaN AESA
- Passive Scan & Track for stealth (like it has on the raptor wings)
- Common communication comp for all a/cs
- Common weapons integration platform capability
- Internal weapons bay
- Stealth skins - permeable skins, but internal deflectors, and designed for aerodynamics rather stealth shapes
- retractables/technology aspects/ pods - multiple use - fuel, IR jammer decoy pods etc.
- 360* TVCs - Actually I would rely on jammers and pod based decoys than reduce rear IR. not worth it
- etc.
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Some of this is being worked on. The JSF features are merely for interoperability and are mostly gimmicks I think.
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I am concerned at DRDO dropping Kaveri like a hot potato.,. they should have got Kaveri as is in the TDs, PVs ported for studies. Nothing like Kaveri inside LCA. A baseline, productive, and in use carry lot more weight than something stays in the lab. They should not have dropped Kaveri.. a blunder that Mr Parikkar must take on. A niche, and important engine development program after spending 3-5K crores goes to dump! no way!
We can't allow that to happen. A squadron of Kaveri LCA Mk1 can remain, while IAF can employ LCA Mk2 with GE F414s. And then Kaveri 2, or Ganga can go wet on 110kN and supply the upgrades. We have to think concurrent and at the same time agile. We have to enter into usability and capability model.
We can't allow that to happen. A squadron of Kaveri LCA Mk1 can remain, while IAF can employ LCA Mk2 with GE F414s. And then Kaveri 2, or Ganga can go wet on 110kN and supply the upgrades. We have to think concurrent and at the same time agile. We have to enter into usability and capability model.
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What's the Status of the Indian-Russian Fifth Generation Fighter Jet?
India and Russia agreed in early 2007 to jointly develop a fifth generation fighter program. Ever since then, the Sukhol/HAL Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) or as it is called in India, the Perspective Multi-role Fighter (PMF) project, has been plagued by delays, costs overrun, and unsteady technology In 2014, a prototype of the plane even caught fire during a demonstration flight for technical evaluation, causing heated arguments between India and Russia.
"What added to the controversy "¦ was Russia's refusal to share any details of this failure, to the extent that a technical evaluation team of the Indian Air Force that reportedly was present at the site was refused access to inspect the damaged platform," Monika Chansoria, senior fellow at the Centre for Land Warfare Studies think tank in New Delhi, was quoted as saying in a Defense News article.
Yet in January of this year, Indian Defense Minister Manohar Parrikar stated that many of the differences have now been set aside: "We discussed all issues, including the FGFA, and have decided to fast-track many of them as there are apprehensions about the slow pace in their execution." This was confirmed by his Russian counterpart, Sergei Shoigu, who emphasized his desire for more regular "interactions" to avoid further delays.
Andrey Marshankin, the regional director of international cooperation at the united Russian-Indian aircraft manufacturing company Sukhoi/HAL, set to produce the jet, further stated that, "as of now, we and our Indian colleagues have completed the creation of the export version of the [Sukhoi] PAK FA, known in India as FGFA. We already have documents and understanding of the scope of the next phase of design, the scale of future production."
The Russian version of the plane will be a operated by one pilot, whereas the Indian Air Force prefers a two-seater plane. "In difficult conditions of modern warfare it is extremely difficult to simultaneously maneuver and attack the enemy. Currently, the Indian side suggests that the Indian version of the fifth generation fighter will be made for two pilots," Marshankin elaborates.
Yet Jane's Defense Weekly notes that despite of this, many problems remain: "Enduring Indian reservations over the FGFA program include those over the fighter's AL-41F1 engine and its stealth and weapon-carrying capability. India is also insistent on Russia restoring its workload in the USD10.5 billion developmental program after recently reducing it from 25 percent to 13 percent without consulting Delhi." India Today notesthat New Delhi is paying 50 percent of the projected costs.
The Russian Air Force is set to receive the derivative version of the FGFA, the Sukhoi T-50 PAK FA, this year. According to International Business Times, Russia will field 55 T-50 jets over the next four years. According to other media reports, the PMF will include combat avionics, stealth, super-cruise, and sensors improvements over the T-50 PAK FA.
Without additional delays, the PMF will be introduced into the Indian Air Force by 2022. Russia is expected to build 250 FGFAs, while India downgraded its initial purchasing size from 200 to 144 planes in 2012 at an estimated total cost of $ 30 billion. However, this number may rise due to China's development of the J-20 and J-31 fifth generation fighters. More than 60 percent of India's military platforms are Russian in origin.
What's the Status of the Indian-Russian Fifth Generation Fighter Jet? | idrw.org
India and Russia agreed in early 2007 to jointly develop a fifth generation fighter program. Ever since then, the Sukhol/HAL Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) or as it is called in India, the Perspective Multi-role Fighter (PMF) project, has been plagued by delays, costs overrun, and unsteady technology In 2014, a prototype of the plane even caught fire during a demonstration flight for technical evaluation, causing heated arguments between India and Russia.
"What added to the controversy "¦ was Russia's refusal to share any details of this failure, to the extent that a technical evaluation team of the Indian Air Force that reportedly was present at the site was refused access to inspect the damaged platform," Monika Chansoria, senior fellow at the Centre for Land Warfare Studies think tank in New Delhi, was quoted as saying in a Defense News article.
Yet in January of this year, Indian Defense Minister Manohar Parrikar stated that many of the differences have now been set aside: "We discussed all issues, including the FGFA, and have decided to fast-track many of them as there are apprehensions about the slow pace in their execution." This was confirmed by his Russian counterpart, Sergei Shoigu, who emphasized his desire for more regular "interactions" to avoid further delays.
Andrey Marshankin, the regional director of international cooperation at the united Russian-Indian aircraft manufacturing company Sukhoi/HAL, set to produce the jet, further stated that, "as of now, we and our Indian colleagues have completed the creation of the export version of the [Sukhoi] PAK FA, known in India as FGFA. We already have documents and understanding of the scope of the next phase of design, the scale of future production."
The Russian version of the plane will be a operated by one pilot, whereas the Indian Air Force prefers a two-seater plane. "In difficult conditions of modern warfare it is extremely difficult to simultaneously maneuver and attack the enemy. Currently, the Indian side suggests that the Indian version of the fifth generation fighter will be made for two pilots," Marshankin elaborates.
Yet Jane's Defense Weekly notes that despite of this, many problems remain: "Enduring Indian reservations over the FGFA program include those over the fighter's AL-41F1 engine and its stealth and weapon-carrying capability. India is also insistent on Russia restoring its workload in the USD10.5 billion developmental program after recently reducing it from 25 percent to 13 percent without consulting Delhi." India Today notesthat New Delhi is paying 50 percent of the projected costs.
The Russian Air Force is set to receive the derivative version of the FGFA, the Sukhoi T-50 PAK FA, this year. According to International Business Times, Russia will field 55 T-50 jets over the next four years. According to other media reports, the PMF will include combat avionics, stealth, super-cruise, and sensors improvements over the T-50 PAK FA.
Without additional delays, the PMF will be introduced into the Indian Air Force by 2022. Russia is expected to build 250 FGFAs, while India downgraded its initial purchasing size from 200 to 144 planes in 2012 at an estimated total cost of $ 30 billion. However, this number may rise due to China's development of the J-20 and J-31 fifth generation fighters. More than 60 percent of India's military platforms are Russian in origin.
What's the Status of the Indian-Russian Fifth Generation Fighter Jet? | idrw.org
