Sukhoi PAK FA

[gadeshi]

Eastern Military District will receive 1 Squadron of Su-30SM and 1 Squadron of Su-35S for service at the end of this year:
There has been stated that T-50 will be sent to Akhtubinsk Weapons & Tactics Center for weapons tests in November-December 2013.
There will be 2 or 3 years of weapons tests and trials before T-50 will be commisioned by the AF and will have its production designation (Su-50?).
Then it will go to Lipetsk to start line pilots training.

ВВС РФ в этом году получат по эскадрилье Су-30 и Су-35 | РИА Новости

 

[Austin]

gadeshi , Do you know how many new Fighter and Transport aircraft are to be procured by 2020 as part of modernisation program GPV 2020 ?

I am aware the number of total choppers are ~ 1200.

 

[SajeevJino]

gadeshi , Do you know how many new Fighter and Transport aircraft are to be procured by 2020 as part of modernisation program GPV 2020 ?

I am aware the number of total choppers are ~ 1200.

 

[Austin]

Thats not entirely correct , because new multipurpose submarine 20 , but it is 16 which includes 7 Yasen SSGN and rest Kilo/Lada.

There are other flaws too in the data

 

[Abhijeet Dey]

@SajeevJino Do you have any photos of India's Military objectives by 2020 like this one?

 

[SajeevJino]

@SajeevJino Do you have any photos of India's Military objectives by 2020 like this one?

Nope ..This one is not my design It's on the Net

 

[Austin]

New Moves : T-50 Design Rationale unveiled ( AW&ST ) ( Pg 43 )

Aviation Week & Space Technology | Aug-19-13 | Express 3 | Zinio Digital Magazines

 

[gadeshi]

NIIP introduces a newly built side-looking synthetic aperture AESA for PAK FA:
НИИПовские сюрпризы / Вооружения / Независимая газета

 

[WMD]

@gadeshi @p2prada

How many BVRAAMs and SRAAMs can the PAK-FA carry in its internal bays, is it 8+2 or 6+2(like F-22)?

 

[gadeshi]

4+2 on first phase.
What will be for Phase 2 - unknown.
Nobody have seen the bays opened, no official data is available, only the insiders info and "pregnant" S-37 photos with bay prototype in the belly, so...

But 4 missiles only is an exchange payment for possibility to cary 4 big presents (LRAAMs/ARMs/ASMs) instead of none of them for F-22, which has wider bays of small depth.

However, many Russian specs say that 4 missiles is not the limit for T-50 main bays and this situation will repeat the same for F-22 - 4 older AIM-120A (with wider wings/tailplains) exchanged for 6 newer AIM-120C (shorter wings/tailplains).

So, only the future will show us the final result.

 

[Decklander]

@gadeshi @p2prada

How many BVRAAMs and SRAAMs can the PAK-FA carry in its internal bays, is it 8+2 or 6+2(like F-22)?

Let us settle it forever. The total is 10 comprising 8xRVV-SD+2xRVV-MD. It reduces to 8 with 6xRVV-BD+2xRVV-MD.
Pak-FA_3D_Annotated_Dark_JPG.jpg Photo by gabo852006 | Photobucket

 

[gadeshi]

Sorry guys, only 4 RVV-SD + 2 RVV-MD for now:

 

[p2prada]

I am open for three possibilities. 4, 6 or 8 RVV-SD. With 6 RVV-SDs we can manage to squeeze in 4 BDs.

Anyway, this should provide more clues,

Mig-31 with 4 R-33s.

With a change in missile, the Mig-31 is able to carry 6 R-37s of greater capability.

So with the right missile we will see the right combination.

Overall, PAKFA is supposed to carry 16 missiles max. 8 or 10 in the bays is the most logical conclusion for a production variant. We can stick with 6 for now. Its nice to be pessimistic about it until we know for sure.

 

[gadeshi]

MiG-31M has wider fuselage and it is done not to cary 6 missiles, but to house new more powerful Zaslon-A radar which has (in old variant) a bit larger diameter antenna.
So, MiG-31 is not a proper example.
F-22 is.

A... Khm... @p2prada, I've even posted the photo of so called "pregnant" S-37 with T-50 MWB prototype. It can cary 4 missiles only (for now), but tey can be big.

There are many argues about the subject in the Russian Internet, but the facts are the facts: 4+2.

 

[p2prada]

There are many argues about the subject in the Russian Internet, but the facts are the facts: 4+2.

Yeah. Even I agree with 6 missiles in internal bays. 4+2.

 

[gadeshi]

Let's wait for Item 180 come to the stage (to Akhtubinsk for fire tests which will sign AF acceptance of that missile) to say for sure, if the T-50 will can cary 6 of them or not. Sources in KTRV say that it will have rather narrow shape with small wings/tails to cary more of them at once (and to reduce the drag, of course).

BTW, Russians wisely declare that it makes sense to cary only the normal load internally. What is Su-30/35 normal load? That's right, the same 6 missiles (4+2). The hedgehog configuration with 10-14 missiles is rarely used due to wery specific needs - cruise missiles mass launch intercept, nothing more.

 

[Twinblade]

Pak-fa side mounted AESA array.

http://www.ng.ru/armament/2013-08-16/5_niip.html

 

[gadeshi]

I've already posted it here, you're late

 

[Austin]

http://www.aviaport.ru/digest/2013/08/20/261953.html

- How is the work on the engine for the T-50?

- Development work on the engine of the second stage for the fifth generation fighter will be completed in late 2015. Until the end of 2013 will be completed engineering design of the engine of the second stage and released documentation for manufacturing and engine core demonstrator. The next year, to be manufactured, and the beginning of testing experimental gasifiers and engine demonstrator. Development of the engine of the second stage is carried out in close co-operation between enterprises Division "engines for military aircraft." KB integrator to develop the motor branch is defined UMPO KB. them. Cradles. In co-operation also involved Moscow's "Salute" and Ufa "Motor". Mass production of these engines will be organized at UMPO.

 

[gadeshi]

PAK FA training flights before MAKS-2013 Airshow and Sergey Bogdan interview:
[video]http://www.vesti.ru/only_video.html?vid=531660[/video]