Stay away from Tibet, China tells international community

[Ray]

Stay away from Tibet, China tells international community

BEIJING: Riled by calls from UN Human Rights body and some Western countries to address the recurring self immolations in Tibet protesting Chinese rule, Beijing today slammed them saying foreign nations should stop interfering in its "domestic affairs".

"Tibetan affairs are totally China's domestic affairs," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying told a media briefing here.

Recently, politicians in the US, the European Union and Canada had disregarded facts, confused right and wrong and groundlessly accused China on Tibet-related issues, Hua said.

In a statement recently, the US had accused China of responding to Tibetan immolations with tightened controls over their freedom of religion, expression and assembly.

UN Human Rights Commission chief Navi Pillay too had expressed concern over the continued self immolations, which crossed 90 and urged Chinese government address the issue.

The comments calling on Beijing to address tensions in Tibet were rude interferences in China's internal affairs and the country was strongly dissatisfied with them and resolutely opposed those acts, she said.

Last month alone about 23 self immolations have taken place coinciding with the leadership change of the ruling Communist Party of China.

Hua said that Tibet has made great progress in politics, economy, culture and other fields since the peaceful liberation of Tibet in 1951, which is widely recognised by the international community.

She urged foreign officials to immediately correct "erroneous words and deeds", earnestly respect China's sovereignty and no longer do anything to interfere in the country's internal affairs.

According to activists, over 90 people, most of them in their late teens and 20s, have set themselves afire in Tibet since February 2009.

Stay away from Tibet, China tells international community - The Economic Times

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China claims that it has done a lot for Tibet and Tibetans and yet they embarrass the Chinese people and the Govt of China.

Dalai Lama is blamed, but the Tibet Govt denies that they are anyone involved in the spontaneous protest including self immolation by the Tibetans and state that the Tibetans at large are disgusted with the manner in which China is subjugating the Tibetan people and their wiping out their singular identity.

Is there no solution?

What do the Chinese feel about Tibet is what one must know.

In Hong Kong there was a suggestion that Tibet should be given similar autonomy as Hong Kong if indeed it is to be an autonomous region of China.

That appears to be the solution, but the Chinese Govt has rejected it.

Could it be because the Chinese Govt does not trust the Tibetan they being non Han and not yet assimilated, while Hong Kongers have been assimilated?

 

[Yusuf]

Tibetans need to up the ante. For too long they have been silently bearing the atrocities.

 

[natarajan]

When sardar wants to send troops at time of invasion by chinese ,our great nehru raul baba great grand father prevented it.

 

[Yusuf]

When sardar wants to send troops at time of invasion by chinese ,our great nehru raul baba great grand father prevented it.

Link to this claim? Sardar never wanted to send any troops to Tibet but yes had warned Nehru to not watch silently the atteocities in Tibet and also not indulge the Chinis too much

 

[Daredevil]

Tibetans themselves cannot up the ante in the massive presence of PLA. It has to happen at a opportune moment when PLA is tied up elsewhere with the help of international community. Only during war with India, US or Japan is this possible. Or wait for the collapse of china under its own weight due to some social/economic/political upheaval. Till then they will have to bear the oppression.

 

[natarajan]

Link to this claim? Sardar never wanted to send any troops to Tibet but yes had warned Nehru to not watch silently the atteocities in Tibet and also not indulge the Chinis too much

Vallabhbhai Patel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Even hyderabad invasion was criticized by nehru

 

[Illusive]

Tibetans themselves cannot up the ante in the massive presence of PLA. It has to happen at a opportune moment when PLA is tied up elsewhere with the help of international community. Only during war with India, US or Japan is this possible. Or wait for the collapse of china under its own weight due to some social/economic/political upheaval. Till then they will have to bear the oppression.

Well clearly they are not able to bear it cause they are burning themselves. Imagine what suffering these people are going through if these people consider burning themselves as a better option.

 

[roma]

i had thought that the tibetan plateau was considered an international heritage - the world community is allowing china to push them around too much

 

[KS]

Sign of a strong confident nation.

 

[cinoti]

Well clearly they are not able to bear it cause they are burning themselves. Imagine what suffering these people are going through if these people consider burning themselves as a better option.

Aum Truth Cult, David Camp also kill themselves, by the way, Dalai Lama is a close friend of Shinrikyo, the founder of Aum Truth Cult.
and the Whole Lama Buddhism is an invention of some of you bhais, they came to Tubo (that time Tibet) from India and started a coup to overthrow the secular authority and built up this savage theocracy which greatly hindered the progress of Tibetan people, Central government of China in the history saw this handy tool and
encouraged lama buddhism ( actually, barely anything buddhism but hinduism in its original form) to keep tibet a backward region to rule.

The PRC emancipated this enslaved people, most of them enjoy their social progress except some remaining of the old ruling power, who fooled those innocent young people to set themselves on fire for their own dirty hidden political agenda.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Headline from 1937?

Stay away from China, Japan tells international community

 

[desicanuk]

Aum Truth Cult, David Camp also kill themselves, by the way, Dalai Lama is a close friend of Shinrikyo, the founder of Aum Truth Cult.
and the Whole Lama Buddhism is an invention of some of you bhais, they came to Tubo (that time Tibet) from India and started a coup to overthrow the secular authority and built up this savage theocracy which greatly hindered the progress of Tibetan people, Central government of China in the history saw this handy tool and
encouraged lama buddhism ( actually, barely anything buddhism but hinduism in its original form) to keep tibet a backward region to rule.

The PRC emancipated this enslaved people, most of them enjoy their social progress except some remaining of the old ruling power, who fooled those innocent young people to set themselves on fire for their own dirty hidden political agenda.

Who asked PRC to interfere in the internal affairs of Tibet?I am looking forward to the day PRC is unceremoniously booted out of Tibet.All colonial empires collapse in time.PRC is no exception.Death to fascism,death to colonialism.Long live Free Tibet.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

On March 7, 1950, a Tibetan Government delegation arrived in Kalimpong to open a dialogue with the newly declared PRC and to secure assurances that the PRC would respect Tibetan "territorial integrity", among other things. The onset of talks was delayed by debate between the Tibetan delegation, India, Britain, and the PRC about the location of the talks. Tibet favored Singapore or Hong Kong (not Beijing), Britain favored India (not Hong Kong or Singapore), India and the PRC favored Beijing, but India and Britain preferred no talks at all. The Tibetan delegation did eventually meet with the PRC's ambassador General Yuan Zhongxian in Delhi on September 16, 1950. Yuan communicated a 3-point proposal that Tibet be regarded as part of China, that China be responsible for Tibet's defense, and that China be responsible for Tibet's trade and foreign relations. Acceptance would lead to peaceful "liberation", or otherwise war. The Tibetans undertook to maintain the relationship between China and Tibet as one of preceptor and patron, and their head delegate Tsepon W. D. Shakabpa, on September 19, recommended cooperation, with some stipulations about implementation. Chinese troops need not be stationed in Tibet, it was argued, since it was under no threat, and if attacked by India or Nepal could appeal to China for military assistance. While Lhasa deliberated, on October 7, Chinese troops advanced into eastern Tibet, crossing the de facto border[15] at 5 places. The purpose was not to invade Tibet per se but to capture the Tibetan army in Chamdo, demoralize the Lhasa government, and thus exert powerful pressure to send negotiators to Beijing to sign terms for a peaceful incorporation of Tibet.[14] On October 21, Lhasa instructed its delegation to leave immediately for Beijing for consultations with the Communist government, and to accept the first provision, if the status of the Dalai Lama could be guaranteed, while rejecting the other two conditions. It later rescinded even acceptance of the first demand, after a divination before the Six-Armed Mahākāla deities indicated that the three points could not be accepted, since Tibet would fall under foreign domination.[16][17][18]

Battle of Chamdo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Modern Political History of Tibet: Chinese Annexation of Tibet

In the popular consciousness, Tibet is a mystical, spiritually and culturally rich land of sublime natural beauty, beset with social unrest and political turmoil. And its exiled leader, the 14th Dalai Lama, is of the world's most charismatic and influential social activists. Learn about the modern political history of Tibet, the debate surrounding Tibetan freedom and the future of Tibet.

 

[t_co]

Headline from 1861?

Stay away from the Confederacy, US tells international community

or how about a headline from 1893?

Stay away from Hawaii, US tells international community

Headline from 1937?

Stay away from China, Japan tells international community

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Tibet : On 23 May 1951, China annexed Tibet. The 60th anniversary is likely to see the "roof of the world" closed to foreign visitors, headlines from Beijing about benefits China has bestowed in 60 years on what it calls the Tibetan Autonomous Region, and a possible change in the political leadership of the Tibetan government-in-exile. It could also be an occasion for more "Free Tibet" demonstrations at the gates of Chinese embassies around the world.



The Chinese government banned foreign tourists from entering Tibet in March. The ban, which will probably last three months, takes the region through several sensitive dates. The first is Mar 10 anniversary of the 1959 Tibetan uprising against China. The second is the Mar 14 anniversary of violent anti-government protests in Lhasa in 2008. The third is the 60th anniversary of the annexation. Tibetan grievances with the Chinese government flare up and mass protests by Tibetan exiles and their supporters commonly happen on all three dates. The Chinese government blames unrest on followers of the Dalai Lama.



The annexation gave rise to a Tibetan independence movement-led by the Dalai Lama, winner of the 1989 Nobel Peace Prize and a campaigner for Tibetan autonomy on the world stage. After the failed 1959 uprising, he fled Tibet and set up a government in exile in India. Most of Tibet's monasteries were destroyed in the 1960s and 1970s during China's Cultural Revolution. Thousands of Tibetans are believed to have been killed during periods of repression and martial law.



Many countries openly support the Tibetan cause, but not to the extent of openly disputing China's claim of sovereignty. Tibet's media are tightly controlled by the Chinese leadership. Official radio and TV stations have extended their reach across much of the mainly-rural region.



Beijing says Tibet has developed considerably under its rule. But rights groups say China continues to violate human rights, accusing Beijing of political and religious repression. Beijing denies any abuses. China points out that a new railway link between Lhasa and the western Chinese province of Qinghai will boost economic expansion, but critics say it is likely to increase the influx of Chinese migrants rather than benefit Tibetans. Beijing recently announced it is building three national parks at its landmark attractions. Tourism is an important revenue earner.

60 years ago atheist China annexed religious tibet | Situations Asia :: Online Portal

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Invasion and illegal annexation of Tibet: 1949-1951

Treaties in international law are binding on the countries signing them, unless they are imposed by force or a country is coerced into signing the agreement by the threat of force. This is reflected in the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, which is regarded as a reflection of customary international law. The People's Republic of China (PRC) feels strongly about this principle, particularly as it applies to treaties and other agreements China was pressured to sign by Western powers at a time when China was weak. The PRC is particularly adamant that such "unequal" treaties and other agreements cannot be valid, no matter who signed them or for what reasons.

After the military invasion of Tibet had started and the small Tibetan army was defeated, the PRC imposed a treaty on the Tibetan Government under the terms of which Tibet was declared to be a part of China, albeit enjoying a large degree of autonomy. In the White Paper, China claims this treaty was entered into entirely voluntarily by the Tibetan Government, and that the Dalai Lama, his Government and the Tibetan people as a whole welcomed it. The facts show a very different story, leading to the conclusion that the so-called "17 Point Agreement for the Peaceful Liberation of Tibet" was never validly concluded and was rejected by Tibetans.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Headline from 1861?



or how about a headline from 1893?

In fact the US Government had to blockade the CSA to prevent support from the UK and elsewhere.

You should read Mark Twain about the Sandwich Islands, missionaries, and the US Government.

Doesn't really parallel what China did in Tibet,

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Don't Mention The Annexation of Tibet! - The Daily Beast

Komereddi took umbrage at Pines's positive characterization of Chinese civilization, wondering aloud if Tibetans would agree with Pines's description of China as a non-proselytizing culture and power. Pointing to China's 1951 annexation of Tibet—a traditional issue of concern among Indian policymakers—and its Han settlement policy in China's far western provinces, Komereddi said in a barbed comment that he would be "very wary of praising Communist China."

The off-topic mention of Tibet unleashed a Pandora's box of political grandstanding among both panel participants and audience members. A young Chinese student in Israel, whose name could not be verified, responded to the Tibet issue by using the audience Q&A session to state for all present in unequivocal terms that successive Chinese governments and representatives of Han Chinese culture have been present in Tibet for "over 2,000 years."

Later on, the panel broached the issue of the difficulty of predicting the future political and policy orientation of China's leadership, due to the closed nature of policy discussions of the CCP leadership and the selection process for the next generation of senior CCP leaders.

Peking University Professor Wu Zhipan noticeably balked at providing his own opinions regarding the selection and policy formulation process of China's future leadership, despite the coaxing of panel moderator Tatiana Hoffman, Israeli Channel 2 foreign news editor.

In a seeming response to Prof. Wu's avoidance of the issue, a Chinese audience member used the Q&A session to state that the CCP's policy positions were officially made available through the publication of the government's five-year plan. She claimed that, "Israeli businesses study these plans as a basis for their plans in China."

However, instead of resolving matters, that comment seemed to perturb Chinese-American Claremont McKenna College Professor and Chinese governance expert Minxin Pei, who asked the audience member point blank if she was a representative sent by the Chinese Embassy in Tel Aviv.

"Serious, intelligent people do not take Chinese government statements seriously," Pei shot back at the audience member when she answered his question in the affirmative.

After Pei's comments, Prof. Wu denounced the panel's treatment of Chinese issues and openly regretted his participation in it.

 

[t_co]

In fact the US Government had to blockade the CSA to prevent support from the UK and elsewhere.

You should read Mark Twain about the Sandwich Islands, missionaries, and the US Government.

Doesn't really parallel what China did in Tibet,

Of course the US Civil War doesn't parallel what China did in Tibet. Even the highest estimates of combat casualties from 1950-1960 in Tibet don't reach over 100,000 killed and wounded. By contrast, the Union and the Confederacy suffered over 600,000 casualties in an era where the total population of the US was barely 30 million people.

And just to jog your memory, it wasn't the CSA blockade that prevented support from the UK, it was the fact that the Union was willing to go to war with Britain and France that kept them out of the conflict. See the Trent Affair for details.