Startegy and Scenario's

[ARVION]

And yes grand startegy is mother of all the military tatical startegy .

 

[cereal killer]

Well in my views even if we got into 50 to 100 km into Gilgit we cold hold the pakis at the bay but will require an shock and surprise operatione's on the Pak's .

Yes that we can do. However will we opt for this route considering the recent China tensions? Will we desperately give a reason to Pak to open another front? In a one on one with Pakistan we will for sure try that. In case Indo China hostilities break out. Let's say the battle of DBO then we launch a assault on heavily defended Chinese Shenxiawan post. In a heroic turn of events we manage to drive the Chinese outta there. Then we may go for Shaksgam let's say a special forces operation with Siachen troops on standby as backup.

 

[ARVION]

Until we have a defined startegy against the Chinese both miliatry and on the bilateral phase we couldn't think of getting into the chinses occupied land's .

 

[ARVION]

Yes that we can do. However will we opt for this route considering the recent China tensions? Will we desperately give a reason to Pak to open another front? In a one on one with Pakistan we will for sure try that. In case Indo China hostilities break out. Let's say the battle of DBO then we launch a assault on heavily defended Chinese Shenxiawan post. In a heroic turn of events we manage to drive the Chinese outta there. Then we may go for Shaksgam let's say a special forces operation with Siachen troops on standby as backup.

Well a in the early phase of the operatione's we would require paratroopers in capturing the key post but will also need the tandem working of both the land and para forces to work together so until the relief forces come to relief the para trooper from the key posta held in the key areas .

 

[ARVION]

Shenxiawan post is the most important part that would be need to captured at any cost , perhaps an heavy air operation would be the only operation for the successful capture of the Shenxiawan post .

 

[cereal killer]

Shenxiawan post is the most important part that would be need to captured at any cost , perhaps an heavy air operation would be the only operation for the successful capture of the Shenxiawan post .

With the capture of Shenxiawan post entire Karakoram highway will fall & Aksai Chin will be extremely vulnerable. Easier said than done though. Will be the most daring offensive launched by any country Post WW2.

 

[ARVION]

With the capture of Shenxiawan post entire Karakoram highway will fall & Aksai Chin will be extremely vulnerable. Easier said than done though. Will be the most daring offensive launched by any country Post WW2.

But with the capturing of the Shenxiawan post , the chinese could say good bye to their OBOR in Pak's that would have both the tatical and stetragic imlecation to the both paks and the Chinese like the siachen is gor the paks we need to have a more tatical advantage over the both chinese and Pak's .

 

[ARVION]

Would be as daring as the operation's market garden during the WW 2's .

 

[cereal killer]

But with the capturing of the Shenxiawan post , the chinese could say good bye to their OBOR in Pak's that would have both the tatical and stetragic imlecation to the both paks and the Chinese like the siachen is gor the paks we need to have a more tatical advantage over the both chinese and Pak's .

Sure Chinese will order their Paki slaves to do mischief in Kashmir or Akhnoor sectors in case they are losing the grip in Karakoram. That all goes into hypothetical scenario, anything can happen then. Best thing will be if US keeps a leash on Pakistan & sends some destroyers in Arabian sea to support Indian Navy.
All in all we gotta defend Siachen & DBO at all costs & right now to secure Depsang as well. China knows it is our only entry point in the Karakoram tract.

 

[ARVION]

I hope ours mirages could play an important role in the bombing of the Shenxiawan post . The success of the earlier operation against the chinese would wholly defend on capturing key posts . Securing our's sides and cutting the chinese from the key posts and positions in the key area's so instead of going defensive posture we have have a offensive posture .

 

[ARVION]

Sure Chinese will order their Paki slaves to do mischief in Kashmir or Akhnoor sectors in case they are losing the grip in Karakoram. That all goes into hypothetical scenario, anything can happen then. Best thing will be if US keeps a leash on Pakistan & sends some destroyers in Arabian sea to support Indian Navy.
All in all we gotta defend Siachen & DBO at all costs & right now to secure Depsang as well. China knows it is our only entry point in the Karakoram tract.

If even an aircraft carrier is in near the paks coast would result in the paks fighting position could be reduced just block the supply of their oils to reduce their war machinery capabilies to retaliates .

 

[ARVION]

Blocking the malacca strait with joint naval operation could totally cut the chinese support for the paks.

 

[Bhadra]

What all you are giving falls witin the realm of tactics and may be a little towrads "operational Art"....

Do we need Shamming Valley as per dictates of our national Interest ?
If yes which component of strategy suit us the best... we can even buy it out ???

If military means is the only way - then come to military strategy..

Then First is how to eliminate military opposition ..
How to get it without firing a bullet...
Then come to how to get it with firing minimum bullets..
Then come to maximum bullets..

 

[ARVION]

What all you are giving falls witin the realm of tactics and may be a little towrads "operational Art"....

Do we need Shamming Valley as per dictates of our national Interest ?
If yes which component of strategy suit us the best... we can even buy it out ???

If military means is the only way - then come to military strategy..

Then First is how to eliminate military opposition ..
How to get it without firing a bullet...
Then come to how to get it with firing minimum bullets..
Then come to maximum bullets..

Capturing the Shenxiawan post is vital for our's DBO roads or else we lose the entire ladakh front without the DBO road .

 

[ARVION]

I am not talking of capturing the Shaksgam Valley's now but need some kind of thought so one day we could have total effective control over the entire strech of the trans Karakoram tract's.

 

[ARVION]

what about the IOR's regions we would need an effective ASW operationes to counter the thread posed by the Chinis ssk, ssn in the region.

 

[ARVION]

Let me say again - a war with China is not a 100% certainty even at this time. China can back off even now.

However if China does not back off then only option is war.

India MUST prepare for war - materially, politically, and psychologically.

And with what startegy ? Please clarify ?