SRK detained at US airport for being a Khan

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USA mentality is to save their people at any cost so dont spare anyone but indian mentality is great that we can have so many bomb blast and terrorist can get into india but even one vip or neta should not be checked:wink: as only common people security is in question
Having policies to save its people is not wrong but religious profiling on airports by immigration officials is completely wrong .

Do u think that terrorists enter India via airports nor they inflirate ? And because of any bomb blast , does it justify to start religious profiling in a country like India in which people from all religions exists and have terrorists and seperatists groups from all the religions .
 

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Having policies to save its people is not wrong but religious profiling on airports by immigration officials is completely wrong .

Do u think that terrorists enter India via airports nor they inflirate ? And because of any bomb blast , does it justify to start religious profiling in a country like India in which people from all religions exists and have terrorists and seperatists groups from all the religions .
It is next impossible to seperatists groups for middle east, pakistan or afganistan to inflirate US terriority through sea or land, the most easiest way for them to enter US is through airport. Crashing Planes is the most favoured way of terrorist to cause damage(cause terror) in US.
During cold war greatest danger to US came form KGB adgents(US had more problem handling KGB adgents more than soviet icbm), during that time any one with soviet decent, soviet citizen or any one who has travelled to USSR or had conection with USSR had seperate security checks.
Currently as US is on war with terror or as i say war on muslim countries its greatest threat comes form seperatists groups in this country, US believe their greatest threat comes for muslim people.
If you observe during world war 2 US had put all Japanese and German people staying in US in war camps and snatched away their business.
It is a natural feeling that it you are in war/fight with a particular set of people you would be cautious from them and even take several steps/measure against these people to protect yourself, which may not be acceptable to others.
Just answer my one question How many terror attacks took place in US after 9/11? On the other hand we have two to three terrorist attack every year.
 

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It is next impossible to seperatists groups for middle east, pakistan or afganistan to inflirate US terriority through sea or land, the most easiest way for them to enter US is through airport.
Border along Mexico is not secured and the white extremists groups are in real becoming more restless and they are the ones u are creating more problems now , @ shootout at Holocaust Muesuem .


Crashing Planes is the most favoured way of terrorist to cause damage(cause terror) in US.
It was complete failure of intelligence agencies .. Already international intelligence agencies informed about it to American Adm , basically Egyptian ,German ,Saudi,France agencies .

During cold war greatest danger to US came form KGB adgents(US had more problem handling KGB adgents more than soviet icbm), during that time any one with soviet decent, soviet citizen or any one who has travelled to USSR or had conection with USSR had seperate security checks.
There was an open asylum system given to Soviet nationals by the American Adm in which thousands Soviets entered America .

Currently as US is on war with terror or as i say war on muslim countries its greatest threat comes form seperatists groups in this country, US believe their greatest threat comes for muslim people.
Its because of the policies of American adm in which its supporting regimes and these regimes are suppressing people .
google USA involvement in Somalia ,Afghanistan,Iraq,yeman ,Sudan , u will get all the answers and all these involvement was long before this war on terror even begin .


It is a natural feeling that it you are in war/fight with a particular set of people you would be cautious from them and even take several steps/measure against these people to protect yourself, which may not be acceptable to others.
Yes its a natural feeeling but if u see in case of Russia its completely different even they are having problems by Seperatist Muslims .


How many terror attacks took place in US after 9/11?
there have been some terror attacks like the holocaust muesum shoot out , bomb plot by African americans and now White extremist groups are more active .

Well there were many terrorist attacks even before 9/11 . I found it a bit interesting .

1910 October 1: A bomb at the Los Angeles Times newspaper building in Los Angeles, California, United States, killed 21 workers.

1915 July 2 Frank Holt, (a.k.a. Erich Muenter) a German professor, exploded a bomb in the reception room of the U.S. Senate. The next morning, he tried to assassinate J.P. Morgan, Jr. (son of the financier whose company served as Great Britain’s principal U.S.

1920 September 16: Wall Street Bombing killed 38 people and wounded 300 others

1927: The Ku Klux Klan launched a wave of political terror in Alabama.

1933 October 10: A Boeing 247 was destroyed in midflight by a nitroglycerin bomb. All seven people aboard were killed. This incident was the first proven case of air sabotage in the history of aviation

1940 - 1956: George Metesky, the "Mad Bomber", placed over 30 bombs in New York City in public places such as Grand Central Station and The Paramount Theater, injuring ten during this period in protest against the local electric utility. He also sent many threatening letters

1954 March 1: U.S. Capitol shooting incident by Puerto Rican nationalists wounded five Congressmen


1958 October 12: Bombing of the Hebrew Benevolent Congregation Temple in Atlanta, Georgia, suspected to have been done by white separatists

1963: 16th Street Baptist Church bombing. A member of the Ku Klux Klan bombed a Church in Birmingham, Alabama, killing four girls aged 11-14.

1965: The Monumental Plot - New York Police thwarted an attempt to dynamite the Statue of Liberty, Liberty Bell, and the Washington Monument by three members of the pro-Castro Black Liberation Front and a Quebec Separatist

1995 Oklahoma City: Oklahoma City bombing kills 168 people, 19 of them children; the most deadly act of domestic terrorism in the United States to date.

2001 December 12: Jewish Defense League plot by Chairman Irv Rubin and follower Earl Krugel to blow up the King Fahd Mosque in Culver City, California, and the office of Lebanese-American Rep. Darrell Issa, foiled.


On the other hand we have two to three terrorist attack every year.
And why u think those occur ? Intelligence failure or what ?
 

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US 'overdid' SRK's questioning: Chidambaram - India - NEWS - The Times of India

US 'overdid' SRK's questioning: Chidambaram
IANS 17 August 2009, 08:24pm IST

NEW DELHI: Home minister P Chidambram on Monday said the Americans had "overdone it" by detaining Bollywood superstar Shah Rukh Khan for two hours at Newark airport in New Jersey, for questioning.

"Had it been for ten minutes or even twenty minutes (of detention for questioning), one can understand it. But one fails to understand how could they hold him for two long hours?" said Chidambaram, talking to reporters on the sidelines of the annual meet of the state chief ministers and the police chiefs on internal security scenario in the country here at Vigyan Bhawan.

"It takes maximum of ten minutes, say twenty minutes, even if you have to frisk a person after stripping him. They have simply overdone it," he said.

"And to add to the complications, they allowed SRK to make a call only after two hours. Had they allowed him to make the call in first fifteen minutes, there would have been no controversy," said the minister.

Asked if India too would treat visiting US dignitaries or their high-profile citizens in the same manner, Chidambaram said: "We will tell them that we do it (frisking) and checking only in civilised manner."

The minister, however, lamented that such an unsavoury treatment was meted out to a high-profile citizen of a country where "we send our joint secretaries officers to the tarmac to receive them (visiting dignitaries.)"

Reacting to the incident, civil aviation minister Praful Patel on Sunday said that the government will take up the issue with the US government at its highest level.

"We will take the issue with the United States government strongly. Such incidents involving Indians due to their religion or nationality should not happen. We will not accept it," said Patel.

Khan was detained for about two hours Saturday morning at the airport in New Jersey where he had arrived to attend India's Independence Day celebrations with Indian diaspora.

Khan was released after Congress MP Rajiv Shukla spoke to the authorities in the US and the Indian consulate. Khan had been detained after his name flashed on a computer and was asked several questions about the purpose of his visit.

Tourism Minister Ambika Soni too had condemned the incident.
 

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Having policies to save its people is not wrong but religious profiling on airports by immigration officials is completely wrong .

Do u think that terrorists enter India via airports nor they inflirate ? And because of any bomb blast , does it justify to start religious profiling in a country like India in which people from all religions exists and have terrorists and seperatists groups from all the religions .
whats wrong in cooperating with officials,if it was some other ordinary khan checked like this will you all be making it an issue?
yes i accept hon.apj treatment is bad but for cine actress is just hype you are all creating here
You people are blind towards some issue and the best example is refusal of visa to omar abdullah(cm of kashmir) to saudi as his wife is hindu
 

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whats wrong in cooperating with officials,if it was some other ordinary khan checked like this will you all be making it an issue?
yes i accept hon.apj treatment is bad but for cine actress is just hype you are all creating here
There is really nothing wrong but one need to understand how this religious profiling is making ordinary civilians to feel , These things are in news just because of the treatment of VIP's where as in reality thousands of civilians daily go through all this .

You people are blind towards some issue and the best example is refusal of visa to omar abdullah(cm of kashmir) to saudi as his wife is hindu
U just dont have any idea how many hindus ,Christians ,buddhists work in Saudi Arabia . yes when its about entering in Holy cities Mecca and Madinah its not allowed , Even in India there are certain temples in which non hindus are not allowed .. Take example of Tirumala and there are certain temples in which people from lower caste are not allowed .

Is there any source on this issue that she was not allowed visa just because she is a hindu , was it an official visit or for performing any religious rituals ?
 

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no ig our 100% genuine,un biased:blum3: indian media censored it but it will be in their stack i think click here for video
it was clearly mentioned in the rejection letter that as his wife was sikh so he went along with his father next month
 

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another news censored by media is group of thousand member blocked the busy anna salai for closing one mosque in ramanathapuram just see for the incident happened in some other district they are affecting city's routines, all this for popularity
ps:example for indian media censor
 

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Firstly, SRK is just another celebrity, lets not raise him to be a representative of India. He is not a representative of India.
There is no doubt that SRK was detained because combination of his surname, origin(indian sub-continent) and faith. But the truth is that this combination(of surname, origin and faith) are suspect as far as US is concerned(due to their experiences in dealing with terrorism). So, if they check(and detain) those that they suspect(regardless of their financial, social or national status), then why should anyone grudge them that?

One might call it racial, ethinic or religious profiling. I agree. But so what? That is how systems work. Some kind of profiling based on some identification is unavoidable. It surely is a hassle to those that share similar identity but dont harbour terrorist ideas. But thats a small price to pay for larger security goals.
No Indian should expect any VIP to be treated specially at any security centres in India(leave alone in US). If SRK is a suspect, then even Indian authorities must do what US officials have done. And why not? At the end of the day, those two hours could potentially save two hundred lives.

Some others have pointed out that this incident exposes the hypocrisy of US towards religious tolerance. I tend to agree. So, the next time US(or its watchdogs) try to advise India about religious tolerance, then our politicians can tell US to take a hike!

Lastly, Ambika Soni said reacting to this incident, that we should to the same to americans. I was delighted. The best lesson that India can learn from this episode is that others give highest priority to their security. We should do the same. If that involves giving some trouble to some people so be it. It is far better than losing innocent lives.
 

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yes shahrukh is not going to loose anything in cooperation but if security is loosen for this actor hyped by india they cant hold record of not having any major terror attack after september 11 but just see in india it keeps going and our pm will just give one speech to fool the people
 

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no ig our 100% genuine,un biased:blum3: indian media censored it but it will be in their stack i think click here for video
it was clearly mentioned in the rejection letter that as his wife was sikh so he went along with his father next month



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Saudi government never denied visa to Omar
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Which rejection letter was it concerned related to his wife ?
 

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another news censored by media is group of thousand member blocked the busy anna salai for closing one mosque in ramanathapuram just see for the incident happened in some other district they are affecting city's routines, all this for popularity
ps:example for indian media censor
So u dislike this media censoring in India ? believe me there is media censoring in every country , tensions erupted in Mysore 4 days back and VHP ,Banranj Dal and Ram Sena even blocked the road , this news was even not covered . so government do censor things to maintain law and order .
 

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Deficiencies in racial profiling in US: Indian-American Muslims
PTI 18 August 2009, 02:50pm IST


WASHINGTON: The Indian-American Muslim community on Tuesday said the detention of Bollywood star Shahrukh Khan at the Newark airport last week demonstrates the deficiencies and arbitrariness of racial profiling in the US.

"Frisking of India's former President APJ Abdul Kalam that happened in the recent past highlights the arbitrariness in profiling as it even failed to consider the importance of the office of presidency. Detention of Shahrukh Khan, an icon of Bollywood, is just another example of failure of the system," said Rasheed Ahmed, president of Indian Muslim Council-USA.

In a statement, Ahmed urged all civil societies to shun racial profiling and redefine controls in necessary security programmes to be fair and unbiased to all regardless of their religion, cast, creed and colour.

"Profiling, often based on grounds of religion and ethnicity, is ineffective and results in undue detention of innocent people," Ahmed added.


Deficiencies in racial profiling in US: Indian-American Muslims - Indians Abroad - World - NEWS - The Times of India
 

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Friday, February 13, 2009

Saudi government never denied visa to Omar
Kashmir Times


Which rejection letter was it concerned related to his wife ?
since omar visa was rejected ,his wife was not taken with him so his father went along with him
 

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So u dislike this media censoring in India ? believe me there is media censoring in every country , tensions erupted in Mysore 4 days back and VHP ,Banranj Dal and Ram Sena even blocked the road , this news was even not covered . so government do censor things to maintain law and order .
whoever involved will fear only if it comes to light,do u justify road blocks?
 

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since omar visa was rejected ,his wife was not taken with him so his father went along with him


Omer Abdullah was never rejected visa and regarding his wife ,as she is not muslim , what she really want to do in Umrah (religious ritual ) ? any idea
 

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hmm but omar wants to take her along with him for that his visa was rejected so he took his father ,she is wife of omar where do you expect to go
suriya(tamil actor) married to jyothika but she can very well accompany to any religious rituals
once they are married i dont know how can you reject on religious basic and just one doubt what will their children do,both religion will reject them
 

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i am a great fan of shahrukh but we should not be crazy or make small issues into huge proportion,anyway this incident was over so lets stop with this
 

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