well your comments suggest otherwiseI am not losing sleep.
Just reply to someone who is losing sleep.
well your comments suggest otherwiseI am not losing sleep.
Just reply to someone who is losing sleep.
Going to war is taking a risk to one's army. And of course the business interests of indian companies in SL is huge.There is no risk to the Army or business interest at all.
Notwithstanding, war is not an answer to solve issues.
I too agree indian's believes in near magical powers of modi is hilarious.Ya economy being the primary competition. Indians' outlandish belief in the near-magical powers of a single man Modi perhaps results from high expectation that he offers concrete, personified hope to escape from the present economic conundrum. Then they overload Modi's agenda with redundant tasks like taking on SL
Obviously British needed servants who do what ever they say. That shouldn't be mistaken. There were Bengali's also who were well educated. Have you ever thought why British gave precedence to Tamils over Bengali's in that matter?Time for you to bone up before commenting.
I gave you facts that show the Ceylonese Tamils were taken to Malaya because they were industrious and diligent. I also indicated what a Chinese (who are also very hardworking and industrious) leader, the Singapore Mentor Minister has to say about Ceylonese Tamils.
Well, when the schools which produced English speaking students were located mainly at Jaffna, how would you say it was not an special privilege. How do you think locally educated students coped with their English speaking counter parts in pursuing government jobs?How is it special opportunities being provided for the Tamils by the British?
You had the opportunity and you did not seize it. The Tamils did and rose by their sheer diligence and determination.
I wonder how can a person like you who knows Sri Lankan history say such a thing. You are extensively biased Mr. Ray. You are purposefully neglecting the facts.I love that. Singalese wanting to oust British. Tell that to the Marines.
Quit deluding yourself.
I wonder same thing happened in India also. Tamils should have asked British to say. Did they Mr. Ray?Possibly because they thought they would get more justice under them and could foresee what has happened to them under the Singalese majority as is of now.
Indian central gover doesnt say any fishermen killing by SL navy, if you really look at their opinion. It is the TN state govern, TN media which say so. Even on Katchatheevu case, i hope you know your central gover's stand. Not different to that of SL's
85 fishermen killed by Sri Lanka in 10 years: Govt - The Times of IndiaThe government on Friday submitted in the Madurai bench of the Madras high court that there had been 167 incidents of shooting on Indian fishermen by the Sri Lankan navy between the years 1991 and 2011. As many as 85 fishermen had been killed and 180 injured in these incidents which took place within the Indian waters.
There are Sveral Clashed only in Recent Times ..No more KillsShow me a single reliable source for fishermen killing by SL navy recently.
Yes even the Early Government Reports when Pakki Soldiers Beheaded our Hero's ..Our Minister says those are TerroristsFishermen cross the boundary mistakenly. but TN fishermen cross the boundary knowing very well. Fishermen do not mistakenly cross in thousands. Your PM, president also acknowledge it as a problem.
That's how we both Deal with Them ..But ramming their Vessels Firing Rounds and Cutting their Fishing nets is not a Good Deal like youIf you arrest SLn fishermen for crossing to your side, we have no problem arrest them and you will not see such a stupid protest from SL side. because we respect the boundary unlike you.
How do you Know that ...does everyone Do it even Knowing the truth ...The claim that TN fishermen mistakenly cross is a big fat lie. Watch the video i pasted. It has tamil in it.
Hope so ..!!!what LTTE threats? LTTE cant rise in SL again, the last time they did we finished it off.
Rather vacuous.Obviously British needed servants who do what ever they say. That shouldn't be mistaken. There were Bengali's also who were well educated. Have you ever thought why British gave precedence to Tamils over Bengali's in that matter?
British rans schools are located where people are ready and willing to learn.Well, when the schools which produced English speaking students were located mainly at Jaffna, how would you say it was not an special privilege. How do you think locally educated students coped with their English speaking counter parts in pursuing government jobs?
The system was British. And the Tamils made the best of that system thorugh hard work and diligence.o rise by their sheer diligence and determination they needed a system that functioned well. Do you think Tamils built it?
I would sure be delighted to learn how the Buddhist Ceylonese wanted to throw out the British, and if they tried, I sure would love to know of such incidents.I wonder how can a person like you who knows Sri Lankan history say such a thing. You are extensively biased Mr. Ray. You are purposefully neglecting the facts.
I can only guess.I wonder same thing happened in India also. Tamils should have asked British to say. Did they Mr. Ray?
It is you who raised the issue of Maoist, not I. Check it out.LTTE had firepower like a small conventional army, naval force and even an air force. LTTE fought conventional warfare at the last battle. LTTE was a conventional army.
It is stupid to compare Maosits with LTTE. Unlike in the case of Sikhs and Maosits, there were militarty targets that can be attacked from air. Of course you dont have to be in the army to know that, but when a person in the army compare LTTE warfare with that of Maoists that is both hilarious and sad
Yes you are right. When the hammer of the invaders fall upon the indigenous. Indigenous become servants.Rather vacuous.
The fact that the Dutch and then the British colonised Ceylon makes one servants, be he a Ceylonese or Tamils?
That way, wherever their were a colonial power, the indigenous people would be servants as per you, right.
Burma can be accepted being so close to Bengal. But why not Malaya? Why were Bengalis ousted by Tamils for Malaya? What was the Specialty among Tamil (Ceylonese) which lacked in Bengali?Bengalis were in great numbers in Burma as the core of the middle level and lower level of British administration there.
Then why British never bothered to educate Tamils in Vanni regions, Mannar, Eastern Sri Lanka and Central hill country? Were they willing to learn? Or did those Tamils were as lazy as the Sinhalese?British rans schools are located where people are ready and willing to learn.
In Jaffna, there were more than willing to have education.
That is because there were very few schools for Sinhalese to learn English and prepare themselves for the civil service jobs.It is obvious that the British would recruit those who were familiar with English for govt jobs.
Now, why did the other Celyonese not take the opportunity is most surprising.
For Christ sake. Dutch could built a good schooling system in Jaffna. This didn't happen all over the island of Sri Lanka. Because Sinhalese were at war with Dutch unlike Tamils.I do not say British were specifically provided Tamils with better education. But when British arrived to Sri Lanka Tamils were enjoying a better educational system created by the Dutch. This was not the case elsewhere in the island.
Don't you think that is a special privilege for Tamils?
So, if the Tamils were taking advantage of an education system made by the Dutch, while the other Ceylonese didn't, it just shows how great their hunger to learn and be industrious.
Great Rebellion of 1817–18 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaI would sure be delighted to learn how the Buddhist Ceylonese wanted to throw out the British, and if they tried, I sure would love to know of such incidents.
So Tamils in India was against British while Tamils in Sri Lanka was welcoming them. What an irony. I thought for once Tamils were hard working, hungry for education and industrious lot.I can only guess.
Maybe the non Muslims felt that they would get justice from the British that they were not getting from the Mughal Kings and satraps.
You know in America they shoot illegal immigrants if they cross the border.That's how we both Deal with Them ..But ramming their Vessels Firing Rounds and Cutting their Fishing nets is not a Good Deal like you
Not only in America ..all over the world It's HappensYou know in America they shoot illegal immigrants if they cross the border.
No quibbles there.Yes you are right. When the hammer of the invaders fall upon the indigenous. Indigenous become servants.
But if there are people who would do what ever they can to appease the invader then they will become the favorite of the invader.
Maybe because the Tamils are more adventurous. However, the ties, I believe between Burma and Bengal were before even the British arrived,Burma can be accepted being so close to Bengal. But why not Malaya? Why were Bengalis ousted by Tamils for Malaya? What was the Specialty among Tamil (Ceylonese) which lacked in Bengali?
Could it be because they were better to run the British enterprises there and educating them would not be wise for the British? Are you sure the others were not educated? Any links?Then why British never bothered to educate Tamils in Vanni regions, Mannar, Eastern Sri Lanka and Central hill country? Were they willing to learn? Or did those Tamils were as lazy as the Sinhalese?
Would you waste money where there is no returns?That is because there were very few schools for Sinhalese to learn English and prepare themselves for the civil service jobs.
It was organised by the Nayakars, who were related to the Madurai Nayak dynasty and to the Tanjore Nayak dynasty.For Christ sake. Dutch could built a good schooling system in Jaffna. This didn't happen all over the island of Sri Lanka. Because Sinhalese were at war with Dutch unlike Tamils
Great Rebellion of 1817–18 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Neat twisting of what I replied.So Tamils in India was against British while Tamils in Sri Lanka was welcoming them. What an irony. I thought for once Tamils were hard working, hungry for education and industrious lot.
For what ? That appeasement was not a communal effort it was a solitary efforts for personnel gains. What a fascinating table turning. India should have learnt from those Tamils on how to turn tables on British. In that way they could have saved many lives.No quibbles there.
But what is unique is to use the appeasement and turn the tables.
Total different scenario to compare but did British yielded to Hume? No. In the end congress was at square one. So that is how Indian appeasement went on.The Indian National Congress did that when it was formed in 1885 by Allan Octavian Hume, but turned the tables on the British!
Correction should be added. Ceylonese Tamils not just Tamils.Maybe because the Tamils are more adventurous.
If Ceylonese Tamils were so good as you say British should have used every bit of them for their gains by educating. Why waste so much valuable human resource?Could it be because they were better to run the British enterprises there and educating them would not be wise for the British? Are you sure the others were not educated? Any links?
Now do you believe Tamil homeland concept of North and East of Sri Lanka is a false one?The Eastern were Moors and they were averse to education etc,
Then why didn't British let Tamils run Sri Lanka? It would have been much easier that way just as they did in South Africa.Would you waste money where there is no returns?
Where were Nayakars when British took them away? Who organized the revolt? Do you accept Sinhalese fought for British?It was organised by the Nayakars, who were related to the Madurai Nayak dynasty and to the Tanjore Nayak dynasty.
Mr. Ray those Nayaks came to power in Kandy because Sinhalese welcomed them to use as puppets in power politics. The move backfired of course. But the real power laid with Sinhalese. That is why Sri Wikramarajasinghe had to surrender to British.Keppetipola Disawe was the successor of Sri \Vikrama Rajasinha ( born Kannasamy Nayaka) the last of four Kings, to rule the last Sinhalese monarchy of the Kingdom of Kandy in Sri Lanka. The Nayak Kings were Telugu Buddhists that spoke Tamil,
You twisted what you said. You said Muslims felt that the British would be more fair in dispensing justice than the Mughals.Neat twisting of what I replied.
I stated that maybe the Hindus felt that the British would be more fair in dispensing justice than the Mughals.
Great in hindsight, but not in those contemporary times.For what ? That appeasement was not a communal effort it was a solitary efforts for personnel gains. What a fascinating table turning. India should have learnt from those Tamils on how to turn tables on British. In that way they could have saved many lives.
Did the British not yield?Total different scenario to compare but did British yielded to Hume? No. In the end congress was at square one. So that is how Indian appeasement went on.
Correct.Correction should be added. Ceylonese Tamils not just Tamils.
Because Indians were equally good.But again another issue arises if Ceylonese Tamils were adventurous why didn't British use them to run India? Why brought them to Malaya?
They did.If Ceylonese Tamils were so good as you say British should have used every bit of them for their gains by educating. Why waste so much valuable human resource?
Discrimination has strange bedfellows.Now do you believe Tamil homeland concept of North and East of Sri Lanka is a false one?
South Africa was run by Africans?Then why didn't British let Tamils run Sri Lanka? It would have been much easier that way just as they did in South Africa.
Nayakars were of Indian orgin.Where were Nayakars when British took them away? Who organized the revolt? Do you accept Sinhalese fought for British?
I presume they were welcomed as the Sri Lankans welcomed the Dutch and the British. The only difference is that they stayed and became a part of Sri Lanka, while the Dutch and the British quit.Mr. Ray those Nayaks came to power in Kandy because Sinhalese welcomed them to use as puppets in power politics. The move backfired of course. But the real power laid with Sinhalese. That is why Sri Wikramarajasinghe had to surrender to British.
Yes I did and you twisted!You twisted what you said. You said Muslims felt that the British would be more fair in dispensing justice than the Mughals.
How does it connect to this.
Ask it from yourself.If life is well and good, why turn table?
Derailing when there is nothing to say. It is just like your circular logic.Correct.
They also descended from the Moon!
Then again why not Bengali's were selected over Ceylonese Tamils. Bengali's were greater in number Ceylonese TamilsBecause Indians were equally good.
Who gave them who and No I can't say I know of MacCaulay. But please elaborate I might get the drift.They gave them a British education so that they could vibe. Heard of MacCaulay?
do you believe Tamil homeland concept of North and East of Sri Lanka is a false one?Discrimination has strange bedfellows.
why didn't British let Tamils run Sri Lanka? It would have been much easier that way just as they did in South Africa.South Africa was run by Africans?
Then why was there a Nelson Mandela?
Are you daft?
Yes indeed.Nayakars were of Indian orgin.
Please elaborate more.They organised the revolt and not the Buddhist Sri Lankan as you.
Me too. Both came as immigrants but the different is Tamils think they had a independent homeland in SL.Though I will accept that they were as Sri Lankan as the Tamil of Jaffna are today.
You presume. Mr. Ray dedicate your time to learn history. You are ill fed on information.I presume they were welcomed as the Sri Lankans welcomed the Dutch and the British. The only difference is that they stayed and became a part of Sri Lanka, while the Dutch and the British quit.