South Korea inks largest ever arms export deal with UAE for missile interceptor

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India can export
1. Pinaka mk2
2. SAAw and other SOW bombs
3. Rudra
4. Missile tracking 3D aesa radars and aerostat radars and other radars.
5. Varunastra ship launched torpedo and Humsa Sonar, mareech torpedo defense
6. Tejas mk1a
7. Astra
8. Dhanush gun and Kalyani guns
9. Tata and Mahindra armoued vehicles.
10. Akash prime with rf seeker.
I can bet u we won't be able to sell even one of those
 

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India can export
1. Pinaka mk2
2. SAAw and other SOW bombs
3. Rudra
4. Missile tracking 3D aesa radars and aerostat radars and other radars.
5. Varunastra ship launched torpedo and Humsa Sonar, mareech torpedo defense
6. Tejas mk1a
7. Astra
8. Dhanush gun and Kalyani guns
9. Tata and Mahindra armoued vehicles.
10. Akash prime with rf seeker.
Have to look at the interoperability too. Western jet OEMs will never allow the integration of a non-western armament on their platforms and both UAE and Saudis operate Boeing-LM-Dassault systems primarily.
 

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Sometimes the products speak themselves. When we have a thousands of missiles under order, and we also had showcased Akash to UAE as well. Anyway this is an disappointment. ME should be India's backyard.
Does UAE know that? Does Saudi know that? Do Jordan, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman, Kuwait, etc. know that? No they don't. We are a treasure trove of many things both in civil and defense areas, but until they put it out there, no one will ever know.

It reflects the disconnect between Commerce ministry, MEA and MOD.

Have to look at the interoperability too. Western jet OEMs will never allow the integration of a non-western armament on their platforms and both UAE and Saudis operate Boeing-LM-Dassault systems primarily.
Dassault won't have an issue, since we have already integrated Astras in our own Rafales. The problem would be in American and British-made jets. You are right. However that does not mean we cannot sell other stuff. South Korea's tech is pretty much western tech with another name so integrating them would slide right under the Western radars.
 

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South Korean missile ranges had been limited to 180km (with a 500kg payload) under a 1979 U.S.-ROK military agreement. The 1979 memorandum of understanding (MOU) allowed the ROK to procure U.S. materials, components and technology as long as Seoul did not violate the range limits that had been set in accordance with U.S. policy.

Since Washington maintained missile export controls in accordance with the 1979 MOU, Seoul began to explore the possibility of acquiring missile technology elsewhere. South Korea’s rapprochement with the Soviet Union, which was a product of former President Roh Tae-woo’s “nordpolitik” or northern policy, provided such an opportunity. Soviets were poor and Korea needed missile technology.

In a 1991 deal Seoul provided Moscow with $3 billion in loans and trade credits. In return
the USSR offered to sell MiG-29 and MiG-31 fighter aircraft to South Korea. In August 1992, Seoul informed Moscow that it would like to become a supplier to the Russian military, and it might want to buy Russian defense firms and operate them as joint ventures. Shortly thereafter, the South sent officials to secret defense plants and expressed an interest in acquiring aerospace technology. The two sides then signed a bilateral military cooperation agreement in November 1992.

In 1994, South Korea began “Operation Siberian Brown Bear” (불곰사업) to acquire advanced military technologies from Russia. An official from South Korea’s Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) said they were able to acquire technologies that would take 10-15 years to development and that France and the U.S. would not sell them.

Gradually this cooperation led to the development of current high-performance SAM system.
Meanwhile us..
 

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Does UAE know that? Does Saudi know that? Do Jordan, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman, Kuwait, etc. know that? No they don't. We are a treasure trove of many things both in civil and defense areas, but until they put it out there, no one will ever know.

It reflects the disconnect between Commerce ministry, MEA and MOD.



Dassault won't have an issue, since we have already integrated Astras in our own Rafales. The problem would be in American and British-made jets. You are right. However that does not mean we cannot sell other stuff. South Korea's tech is pretty much western tech with another name so integrating them would slide right under the Western radars.
Astra's are not integrated with Rafale. As of now the French won't let us seeing Rafale is making hot sales and they want their own missiles to sell. Maybe after 10-12 years they might.
Astra's are not even ordered enough for Su anyway.
 

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Astra's are not integrated with Rafale. As of now the French won't let us seeing Rafale is making hot sales and they want their own missiles to sell. Maybe after 10-12 years they might. Astra's are not even ordered enough for Su anyway.
Sorry my bad, I should have put Tejas and MKIs (which is happening as we discuss). The entire Astra project has multiple derivatives:
  • Astra Mk1
  • Astra Mk2
  • Astra Mk3
  • VL-SR-SAM
I am pretty sure that the French would be open to making some concessions if UAE were to push them for it. France is only covering the lost US markets and they won't mind 3rd party short range missiles or SRSAMs.
 

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Have to look at the interoperability too. Western jet OEMs will never allow the integration of a non-western armament on their platforms and both UAE and Saudis operate Boeing-LM-Dassault systems primarily.
Pinaka, Varunastra, Dhanush howitzer, and the several armoured vehicles by TATA and Mahindra don't require any integration with Western platforms. The AAMs yes, but these are standalone platforms that can be embedded into a common air defense network.

How else are you expecting Korean SAMs to be functional in UAE if they already operate French and American jets?
 

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Pinaka, Varunastra, Dhanush howitzer, and the several armoured vehicles by TATA and Mahindra don't require any integration with Western platforms. The AAMs yes, but these are standalone platforms that can be embedded into a common air defense network.

How else are you expecting Korean SAMs to be functional in UAE if they already operate French and American jets?
SAMs is one area where we don't have any competitive offering as compared to South Koreans, no point of comparing.
Akash NG is not ready yet(short to medium range), MRSAM is a Barak derivative they could buy that directly from Israel, radar is anyway Israeli(medium range), long range we're ourselves dependent on Russians. AAD, PAD are out of question.
Akash 1 and 1P made sense for us because we were saving forex, for them both are imports anyway.
 

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