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When picking a gun, what would your primary consideration be?


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Gessler

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Custom rifle of USN SEALs seen in latest exercise

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The upper reciever is from an Oregon based company called Noveske.

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Slap in face for piston fanboys who think DI is useless pleb stuff. Been saying for years that a good, well-made DI is no slouch and has its own advantages.
 

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Some recent pics of Roosi SOFs from my collection, Western equipment galore:

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FSB Special Purpose Centre-Alfa w/ Heckler & Koch MR308 (civilian HK417) with Schmidt & Bender scope & PEQ-15

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FSB Special Purpose Centre-K "Directorate K" w/ Accuracy International AXMC (bottom) & HK MR308 (top), both with Schmidt & Bender scopes, and a Safran Vectronix MOSKITO thermal imager

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FSB Special Purpose Centre-Vympel w/ Brugger & Thomet MP9 with original B&T Suppressor & SOT Aspid LAM and unknown flashlight

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From the official FSB calendar - AN/PSQ-20 ENVG night vision goggles (probably civilian-grade version) on left
 

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How much would a well made DI AR 15 patterned rifle cost?
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It can vary greatly depending on materials used, number made, etc.
 

Aditya Ballal

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Start here:


It can vary greatly depending on materials used, number made, etc.
Considering the civy price for the SIG 716 DI version is about 1400$ and they sold it to us for ~990$, and if similar discount is given to us by Daniel Defense HYPOTHETICALLY, we could expect them to sell it to us at 1200-1300$ for the amount we would buy, would actually be a really good price for a proven rifle as Caracal quoted about $1200 if I’m not wrong for the CAR 816 for us, being a largely unproven rifle.
The only downside dealing with smaller American companies would be ITAR and lack of willingness to make in India to keep with their made proudly in the USA theme.
 

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Considering the civy price for the SIG 716 DI version is about 1400$ and they sold it to us for ~990$, and if similar discount is given to us by Daniel Defense HYPOTHETICALLY, we could expect them to sell it to us at 1200-1300$ for the amount we would buy, would actually be a really good price as Caracal quoted about $1200 if I’m not wrong for the CAR 816 for us.
It is difficult to estimate these prices when talking about such large bulk orders. It would boil down to an executive decision by the company - how much profit margin are they willing to concede for such a large order? How much market could be expect to tap following the order? How long a period are they willing to allow in order to recoup the lost margin via potential follow-on orders or after-sales service? What's the financial health of the company and does such margin-concession bode well for the company's short or medium-term outlook with regard to borrowing from lenders for expansion?

Like I said - an executive-level decision made keeping business interests & finances in mind. Hard to say for someone not sitting on the board of said company.
 

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Considering the last carbine RFI said they wanted the gun length to be within 800mm, I think this would be a better fit.
Thanks for the info. @Gessler
 

Automatic Kalashnikov

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Some recent pics of Roosi SOFs from my collection, Western equipment galore:

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FSB Special Purpose Centre-Alfa w/ Heckler & Koch MR308 (civilian HK417) with Schmidt & Bender scope & PEQ-15

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FSB Special Purpose Centre-K "Directorate K" w/ Accuracy International AXMC (bottom) & HK MR308 (top), both with Schmidt & Bender scopes, and a Safran Vectronix MOSKITO thermal imager

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FSB Special Purpose Centre-Vympel w/ Brugger & Thomet MP9 with original B&T Suppressor & SOT Aspid LAM and unknown flashlight

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From the official FSB calendar - AN/PSQ-20 ENVG night vision goggles (probably civilian-grade version) on left
They have mono tube nvg has standard issue?
 

Gessler

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Some recent pics of Roosi SOFs from my collection, Western equipment galore:

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FSB Special Purpose Centre-Alfa w/ Heckler & Koch MR308 (civilian HK417) with Schmidt & Bender scope & PEQ-15

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FSB Special Purpose Centre-K "Directorate K" w/ Accuracy International AXMC (bottom) & HK MR308 (top), both with Schmidt & Bender scopes, and a Safran Vectronix MOSKITO thermal imager

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FSB Special Purpose Centre-Vympel w/ Brugger & Thomet MP9 with original B&T Suppressor & SOT Aspid LAM and unknown flashlight

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From the official FSB calendar - AN/PSQ-20 ENVG night vision goggles (probably civilian-grade version) on left
Some more, this time focusing on AKs:


FSB Special Purpose Centre-Alfa shooting competition set-ups. This AK-74M platform with lot of custom parts. What I can identify: VS-24 Tubular KeyMod handguard, PSH-5M muzzle device, non-standard dust cover, custom fire selector (perhaps Krebs), Vortex Optics Razor HD Gen II-E 1-6×24 scope on a Cantilever mount from same company, Dissident Arms Competition AK pistol grip, TDI Arms TRAX collapsible stock (now discontinued)

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SSO in Syria w/ AK-12 with ELCAN Spectre 1-4x magnifier

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SSO operator w/ AK-74M with Zenit picatinny rails & Perst-4 LAM and EOTech EXPS-2/3 holographic sight - note the HEL-STAR infrared strobe on helmet

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FSB Special Purpose Centre-Alfa in Syria w/ Aimpoint Comp M4s reflex sight + 3XMag combo
 

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