Skirmishs at LOC, LAC & International Border

[Butter Chicken]

why reacting like a girl ??? why surprised ??

well we are going in war with pakistan , its just starting

Kargil is in a complete different area ...seems fake news by media outlet

 

[Darth Malgus]

The most credible reason.

Unprecedented security threat triggered an unprecedented security response.

Good job by intel and security establishment but if you’re hoping for historic moment you will be disappointed.

Nobody knows. We will find out soon enough.Nobody won a war being on the defensive.

 

[abingdonboy]

HISTORIC moment is also a good finishing move to punish pakistan..
Its the sweet sound of FLUSHING PAKI INVESTMENT on SEPERATISTS and TERRORISTS in the valley for ever, who till now protected the SPECIAL STATUS on JK instilling insecurity in the minds of people.

Yes but this isn’t that moment.

Give it a few weeks and drawdown will begin. Probably after Aug 15th.

 

[sorcerer]

Yes but this isn’t that moment.

Give it a few weeks and drawdown will begin. Probably after Aug 15th.

Wish it was BEFORE because it goes with the Shah ji's plan of hoisting national flag in all panchayats of J&K

 

[amit19]

cross posting from sf forum - falcon commentary -
"
Pakistan is going to be tested severely in the coming days. I suspect that you will see major upheaval in your side of Kashmir and extending upto Durand line.
But knowing the Pakistani history, Pakistan Army may just be foolish enough to do something stupid which will give us an excuse to do some major downsizing of Pakistan. Nuclear weapons have been relegated to relics in Indo-Pak scenario.

Very categorically I have maintained over the past few years - Pakistan will not be allowed to use (even if it is in position to do so) nuclear weapons. The major world powers i.e. US, Russia, France, UK simply won't allow it, nor will China. Of course, we will also be coordinating with all of them diplomatically and with the exception of the last, militarily, to ensure this.
"

 

[daya]

The most credible reason.

Unprecedented security threat triggered an unprecedented security response.

Good job by intel and security establishment but if you’re hoping for historic moment you will be disappointed.

Our Intel and security forces are capable enough. In earlier years, they did perform utmost, but the political will was not up to the mark. The change is in leadership only.

 

[abingdonboy]

Our Intel and security forces are capable enough. In earlier years, they did perform utmost, but the political will was not up to the mark. The change is in leadership only.

That’s right. And you can see security establishment is much more pro active and aggressive today. Look at Pathankot, early information and it lead to pre-emptive response.

This is no different.

 

[daya]

The bubble of waging 1000 year war and threat of ATOM BOMB has vanished. Now, Pakistan has to suffer a lot, if the terror outfits are not destroyed by Pakistan itself.

 

[Absolut_Vodka]

Just to lighten the mood......Imagine Rahul Gandhi in this situation

I don't want to post unnecessarily but pappu and imthedim would have been brothers from another mother. Both would use same pipe to snort cocaine and probably get sandwich massage at same joint in Bangkok.

Whole subcontinent would be doing"Dam maroo dam"

 

[sorcerer]

Our Intel and security forces are capable enough. In earlier years, they did perform utmost, but the political will was not up to the mark. The change is in leadership only.

To add to it..
the INTEL AGENCIES now work very close and in sync.
During one surgical strike it was told by the media that all int. agencies actually coordinated the efforts from under a ceiling.

This change is what is yielding results

 

[sorcerer]

Well!!
WE DONT SEE PEACE OFFERS FROM pakistan this time.
may be they know they are exposed very well and peace offers will be mooned back with images and videos of terrorists by the Indian Army.

IK is munching on fevicol or DGISPR didnt get his fav video editor to edit IK's "photoshoot"

 

[Guest]

Kargil is in a complete different area ...seems fake news by media outlet

What If the real action awaits in Kargil and Turtuk. And this drama at the LC is just to keep the Pakis in panic mode and press troops into Haji pir and Chamb, keep them busy while cross into Khaplu and threaten the strategic town of Skardu by the time winter sets in, this would create a panic situation among the Chinese also. Because then we would be in a position to cut of CPEC and will take a significant step towards central Asia.

If a war has to be started, I only see this as the prize, else Chamb, Haji peer, Muzaffarabad etc are useless and waste of time and resources.

 

[Enquirer]

It "was" when ummah is fighting ummah theres no ummah then , Americans played a brilliant game and broke down this potential unity , now ummah iis highly divded , in 90s no ummah was fighting ummah

Sorry, I don't follow any of that!!!

US was instrumental in amalgamating the Ummah.....during the 80s....by distributing literature that 'Islam is in danger' and Soviets being pointed as the enemy.

The 100s of 1000s of ISIS fighter fighting as recently as few years ago (comprising men & women from Indonesia to Canada) is also a testimony to Ummah!

 

[ssg_slayer]

Artillery doing it's job
atleast 35 hours of pounding is must before doing any op. Shock and Awe also has it's effect.
#HajiPir

 

[Guest]

Guys. This was a pre-emptive security deployment after specific intel inputs about pilgrims being targeted on a large scale (snipers and bombs).

Speaks highly of the intel establishment and a job well done but let’s not make this anymore than it is. It isn’t the history defining moment some think, after Aug 15 situation will start to return to normal and those extra CAPFs will be drawn out

To be honest that sniper and mine thing was BShitting ! The gun looked as If burried in mud for a long time and mine could have been recovered from LC or any other terrorist hide out. A real catch would've been 300kg RDX then I would call it authentic. One rusty old sniper, and a mine, is just bahanebazi.

 

[Enquirer]

Zero??
U know 99% normal man can not fight with plastic baton Police man, do u know why?

they are trained and know how to hit back..... multiply with 100 u get ARMY MAN- Well trained and equipped.

For common abudls it is impossible to fight Army so paki army+ Afghan trained jihadis created civil war in 1990's.

BTW 99% Kashmiri muslims supported them in everyway through food,shelter,information,supply&etc.

You're going on a tangent!
My post was not about complicity of locals or training levels of jihadis....it was to point out that the Ummah played an instrumental role in the Kashmir turmoil.

 

[Neil]

Kashmir turmoil: Constitution has provisions to redraw J&K's boundary, say experts

According to experts, trifurcation of Jammu and Kashmir, one of the proposals that could be on the table as part of the larger plan to deal with the issue, could not be ruled out. There are provisions in the Indian Constitution to change boundaries of states sharing a border with Pakistan.

After the government curtailed Amarnath Yatra and asked tourists to return, speculation is rife about the Centre's the next move on Jammu and Kashmir.

According to experts, trifurcation of the state, one of the proposals that could be on the table as part of the larger plan to deal with the issue, could not be ruled out. There are provisions in the Constitution to change boundaries of states sharing border with Pakistan, they say.

The trifurcation is pinned at the validity of the Article 370 in the Constitution. Unlike Article 35A, Article 370 is a formal part of the Constitution. This article can be amended through Article 368(1). A motion can be introduced in the Lok Sabha seeking amendment to the Constitution to abrogate Article 370 through Article 368(1). The Lok Sabha and the Rajya Sabha would have to pass the amendment, and then half the states would have to agree with this decision. It's a long-drawn process, but can be done, according to a Constitution expert, who sought to stay anonymous citing the sensitivity of the matter.

Following the abrogation of Article 370, Parliament would have the power under the Constitution to re-draw the boundary of J&K. Article 370 gives an autonomous status to J&K. Under Article 368(1), Parliament may, in exercise of its constituent power, amend by way of addition, variation or repeal any provision of this Constitution in accordance with the procedure laid down in this article.

The Article 3 provides the avenue for creation of a new state or re-drawing of boundaries through a Bill tabled in Parliament on the President's recommendation after holding consultation with the legislatures of the affected state. The J&K's autonomy shields it from the application of Article 3, which was used to create new states, like Telangana. Thus, the only possibility tentatively visible is through abrogation of Article 370, according to the expert.

Former Secretary General of Lok Sabha Subhash Kashyap had in an earlier conversation with IANS said, "Article 370 under the Constitution has been ascribed as a temporary provision, and not a special provision. There are provisions in the Constitution -- temporary, transitional and special. Temporary is the weakest. The question is how it can be ended and when shall be ended."

BJP leader and advocate Ashwini Upadhyay said, "The sub clause 3 of Article 370 allows the President to notify that Article 370 has ceased to exist. After this, Article 3 can come into force. The President can consult the Governor in the absence of the Legislative Assembly".

Article 370(3), notwithstanding anything in the foregoing provisions of this article, the President may, by public notification, declare that this Article shall cease to be operative or shall be operative only with such exceptions and modifications and from such date as he may specify, provided that the recommendation of the Constituent Assembly of the State referred to in clause (2) shall be necessary before the President issues such a notification.

and another article as well:
Constitution has provisions to re-draw Jammu & Kashmir's boundary: Experts

 

[aarav]

India today which break the news about Bofors which was then corroborated by Governor ,so I think there sources are credible ,it could be larger version of op kabaddi, classic case of stretch the enemy ,till you see a opening and pounce on it with focal concentration

 

[sorcerer]

The Best thing I like about modi govt is Calmness Till last moment everything is Normal . PM and his Cabinet working Normally , Governors and Officers having No Idea than all of a sudden Aaj Raat 8 bje ke baad

 

[sorcerer]

Unconfirmed sources are claiming Jets are in Air