Skirmishs at LOC, LAC & International Border

[mist_consecutive]

Well we didn't want to show them our all birds as we knew f16 is superior then su30 mki . thats wy here every one saying things will be different if we had rafale .

Well no doubt soon pakistan will ave much better number in air as our modernization process is in ICU . nothing happening in MMRCA no want want to showing dare to govt and say we need 5 th gen planes and we need right now . we donot care how will govt manage the money but for india security we need more birds

Well we didn't want to show them our all birds as we knew f16 is superior then su30 mki . thats wy here every one saying things will be different if we had rafale

Had too many bottles? I understand its Friday night.

Mig-21 Bison wiped the floor with F-16s, soo much for F-16 superiority.

 

[arya]

Had too many bottles? I understand its Friday night.

Mig-21 Bison wiped the floor with F-16s, soo much for F-16 superiority.

Brother some one need to take stand so that IAF will get new planes , some has to raise a voice for IAF .

 

[Prashant12]

Equipping Indian borders with AI powered surveillance systems. In pic: EOD dual sensor surveillance and recon system waiting to be boxed, sealed and shipped to the frontiers.
. #makeinindia#ArtificialIntelligence#proudlyindian

 

[dude00720]

Are you from a certain lobby?
f-16s are superior to su 30 mki ??
Ok I will play along explain to me with technical FACTS how you reached that conclusion.
Also, if it's a full fledged war we will overwhelm paki airforce in a few days ,at most a week and I am being generous ,for skirmish however they can do these PR stunt even if we have rafale as initiative will lie with them at time ,place and numbers of their choosing .

He has been doing these import lobby quotes masquerading as Modi supporter from some time. Someone tell him F-16 is effed because of Feb 27. This happens when you sell equippment to 2nd rate military.

 

[sorcerer]

Vigilant R&AW Cripples China-Pakistan Nexus in Arabian Sea
A secret report of RA&W reveals that Indian agency successfully thwarted ISI designs in the strategic island of Maldives.


New Delhi: In a bid to check the growing influence of China-Pakistan nexus in the Indian Ocean, India’s external intelligence agency, Research and Analysis Wing (R&AW) is bolstering up its maritime intelligence network, laying more emphasis on the Arabian Sea region. Eight months ago, in the tenure of the then President of Maldives, Abdullah Yameen, capital city Male had become the overseas hub of Pakistan’s spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI).

A secret report of RA&W reveals that Indian agency successfully thwarted ISI designs in the strategic island of Maldives. The ISI, backed by Ministry of State Security, MSS (Chinese spy agency) and involving a few close aides of former Maldives President Abdullah Yameen, was encouraging anti-India activities being operated from Pakistan’s embassy located in Male, report says. Yameen was allegedly close to a senior Pakistan diplomat and was later trapped by the Chinese agency.

The report says that during the tenure of Abdullah Yameen, President of Mauritius (2013-2018), the Chinese gained military, economic and political influence in the strategic island. Yameen’s activities did not find favours with India.

A highly placed source in the government told IANS that the Chinese invested more than 2 billion dollars in large-scale infrastructure projects, but the money pumped in by Beijing was more in the form of a loan. Yameen entertained several Chinese companies and even leased small islands to them.

According to a source, the situation changed once Ibrahim Mohammed Solih took over as Maldives’ new President. “Finally Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s recent visit to Maldives (June 8 and 9) was a morale booster for India’s security and intelligence agencies. National Security Advisor Ajit Doval was the key person in planning this first foreign visit of Modi in his second term, a source said.

Sources said that former President Yameen was also close to Pakistan and had allegedly facilitated ISI to increase its presence in the island country. During Yameen’s tenure, Pakistan Embassy at Lily Magu area in Male had become an overseas hub of ISI, engaged in hatching conspiracies against India. In fact, Pakistan’s Ambassador played a key role in bringing Beijing closer to Yameen.

Turning the tide against Yameen, pro-India leader Ibrahim Mohammed Solih took an anti-China stance in last year’s election and succeeded in his mission. Sources said once Solih took over the reins in Male, ISI’s growing influence in the Maldives was gradually neutralised. Besides the Maldives, R&AW is also stepping up its vigil of Chinese vessels around Seychelles and Mauritius.

New R&AW Chief Samant Goel, an expert on Sino-Pak affairs with more than 18 years of experience in the agency now plays an important role in stepping up India’s vigil in the Arabian Sea region. Goel, a 1984 batch IPS officer, is said to be close to Ajit Doval and has been a key figure in chalking out the planning of Balakot air strike early this year.

“With Doval at the helm, his close aide Samant, a meritorious officer, can take the agency to a new height of professionalism. As far as checking the growing influence of China in the Indian Ocean is concerned, the RA&W is quite capable of achieving its set objective,” said a former senior official of India’s external agency.

Sources said to rejuvenate the cadre and enhance human intelligence, RA&W has got rid over several officers who were not performing up to the mark. The officers whose identity was compromised or against whom there were complaints relating to integrity, were also shown the door.

The agency has also procured state-of-the-art gadgets and is well-equipped to intercept conversations of satellite phones.

In cyber-related surveillance, RA&W can be compared with any top spy agency of the world including Mossad (Israel) or China’s Ministry of State Security, MSS. Sources said apart from increasing maritime presence, MSS is also focusing on economic espionage as China becomes a major telecom player.

The MSS boasts of some of the best hackers who can break into any secret data from a server located in any part of the world. Sources said R&AW is well equipped to tackle any such cyber threat originating from any part of the globe.

https://www.india.com/news/india/vigilant-raw-cripples-china-pakistan-nexus-in-arabian-sea-3703315/

 

[Absolut_Vodka]

Well we didn't want to show them our all birds as we knew f16 is superior then su30 mki . thats wy here every one saying things will be different if we had rafale .

Even if F-16 is superior to Su 30Mki, the problem is not platform but rather country of origin. What good are the fighters with strings attached? We pay for them and also follow uncle Sam's dictation. No thanks.

 

[Absolut_Vodka]

To be fair porks didn't really pay for them but got them in bheek for war on terror (lol) and for letting US bomb the fata whenever they got bored giving rise to Pakistan's national BIRD.

Paki didn't get them in bheek but they prostituted Pakistan for F-16s and other aid packages. There is difference between prostitute and beggar.

Remember how shamelessly US asked for Indian army in Afghanistan after 9/11 even when they sent carrier battle group to India in 1971 and sanctioned India after Nuke tests. Imagine if we were flying F-16s and F-18s then surely we would be armtwisted to send our forces there which not only would have affected our relationship with prominent Islamic nations but also alienated local muslims.

 

[arya]

No matter we like or not but pakistan is increasing his number , dont be surprised if they may get either j20, few days back pakistan got pl15 missile .

Kids i am Indian as like you but i am not a fanboy , i would like to ask again & again what is our preparation, few kids saying i am lobbying for some west country no bro i am saying one simple line we need fighter planes to counter j20,j31,j17,su35 & what we have just su30 mki & we all know its need up gradation his engine his missile his radar every thing need to change .

can any one tell me how many planes & pilots india lost from last 20 years because of our old junk .

 

[arya]

one famous line .

if you want to beat your enemy then you must be stronger smarter then him .

is this just a coincidence India didn't bought any fighter planes or it was a master planed of our neighbor to weak our air forces numbers. china bought su35 but India remain silent why ??? why didn't we tried to pick his counter option .

can any one tell me how many sq number we have and what is requirement & what will happen when mig 21 & other old planes will retired

 

[Sourav Kumar]

one famous line .

if you want to beat your enemy then you must be stronger smarter then him .

is this just a coincidence India didn't bought any fighter planes or it was a master planed of our neighbor to weak our air forces numbers. china bought su35 but India remain silent why ??? why didn't we tried to pick his counter option .

can any one tell me how many sq number we have and what is requirement & what will happen when mig 21 & other old planes will retired

The answer to your query is the "policy paralysis" that affected defence during Mounamohan UPA era.

 

[arya]

The answer to your query is the "policy paralysis" that affected defence during Mounamohan UPA era.

May be but other side of coin may be that was master planed of our neighbors , our govt babus & few high ranked officers didn't allowed to IAF gain fighter planes .

Is this just a coincidence in india media is silent on such a big issue.

who got benefits when our IAF loss numbers in sky give me answer .

we need numbers to deal two front war otherwise everything is cool on paper

 

[Sourav Kumar]

May be but other side of coin may be that was master planed of our neighbors , our govt babus & few high ranked officers didn't allowed to IAF gain fighter planes .

Is this just a coincidence in india media is silent on such a big issue.

who got benefits when our IAF loss numbers in sky give me answer .

we need numbers to deal two front war otherwise everything is cool on paper

There is no this side of coin or that side of coin in that. I don't want to discuss politics/ media on this thread but in a nutshell if you have a patriotic honest govt, it will strive to ensure the safety of nation and if you have a chor govt, it won't.

Still if you don't get answers, you have to go back to basics and do self-study

 

[Absolut_Vodka]

This alienated local Muslims in any context is a irrelevant and BS argument , Muslims first of all are as alienated as they always were and always will be .90s terror dawood wood rapes era was by same not alienated muzzies .
We give them too much undue importance for no reason ,we are majority let's behave like one ,they got Pakistan and didn't bat a eye about Hindus getting alienated and full on literally fucked them .
SM has shifted their victimhood narrative and Hindus slowly are coming out of slumber ,hence the butt hurt in Dara sehma musalman.
If strict steps are followed Muslims will become alienated from our land naturally and only Indians will remain here not converted Arab Dick riders.
The steps by Amit Shah ,in denying terrorists open burial ,flirting with the idea of scrapping of art 35 , trifurcation plus record slaughtering of pigs in Kashmir and Pakistan are an indication towards true secularism ,you see Muslims got two pure countries and one semi islamic one ,Hindus got none .We need to change that slowly but surely.

I feel we on this forum greatly underplay Indian Muslims integration with India. I have been across 23 countries and that's my experience.

Nevertheless the topic is F-16 vs Su 30 mki. Just recently whole world grounded Boeing 737 max because of crashes. These planes were few months old. No paki jumped up and down in jubilation just like they celebrated IAF crashes of 40 year old soviet junks.

Never trust a Paki because they aren't fooling you but they are deluded themselves.Wait for 5-10 years and a Paki general would be writing a book that how they were bombed by India. Tu Fail is just the start.

 

[Brimstone]

I am getting restless ,I need something for peace of my mind

Almost everybody here wants revenge. IAF wants revenge. Every patriot of this country wants revenge. You're not alone.
Trust in our Civilian and Military leadership.
We will settle the score publicly. We will decide the time, place and the way to punish them. Have patience and watch them as they tear down their own country apart.

 

[indus]

Major split in kashmiri terror groups. HM targets ISJK millitants. Syed Salauddin tries to broker peace.

 

[sorcerer]

Why PM Modi’s victory made Gilgit-Baltistan happy

BJP advocates the reunion of Gilgit-Baltistan with India, which will help the natives enjoy citizenship rights in a Constitutional set-up like their kin in Ladakh. This view was well received by the Ladakhi Muslims and helped BJP expand its vote bank. According to Zulikha Bano, a Balti activist from the Nubra valley in Leh district, more than 40% of Muslim voters in Nubra supported BJP’s Jamyang T. Namgyal—which is the highest Muslim vote share for any BJP candidate. Zulikha claims that villages such as Chulungkha, Tyakshi and Turtuk, with a Balti population, voted for the BJP since the latter backs opening the Nubra-Chorbat (Chorbat valley is in Gilgit-Baltistan) road to revive commerce across the Line of Control and ease communication between members of the divided families. Zulikha states that the local Baltis also praise BJP for declaring their villages “tourist-accessible”, which has enhanced local business and livelihood prospects.

The Kargil based Mohammad Hassan Pasha, who is the vice president of Jammu & Kashmir BJP Yuva Morcha (Youth Front), feels that the prejudice against BJP is giving way to rational thinking, and support for Prime Minister Narendra Modi is growing among the youth of Kargil. He said that the Baltis appreciate BJP’s decision to establish the university and a separate administrative division for Ladakh. According to Pasha, more than one-quarter of Ladakhi Muslims supported BJP during the current elections, which was a significant change.

The establishment of a separate Ladakh division has also renewed hopes in the Zanskar valley, where people have placed their trust in the BJP for the creation of a separate district and representation in the J&K Legislative Assembly. Similarly, BJP has also become popular among the residents of Changthang along China’s border as they believe that PM Modi’s change in norms of engagement with hostile neighbours and counter-ops in Doklam and Balakot have increased their sense of security. In the coming months, BJP’s approach to win hearts and minds could well alleviate the grievances of the Shina-speakers of Gurez and the Paharis of Poonch, who desire for the establishment of Ladakh-style autonomous hill councils. Like Zanskar, Gurez also deserves a separate district and Assembly seat since these valleys remain cut off from the rest of the country during the six snowiest months of winter.

Notwithstanding the hopes and aspirations of the voters, BJP still lacks a majority in the Rajya Sabha, or the Upper House of Parliament, limiting the Constitutional scope to match these expectations. However, the ruling party is likely to get a majority in the Rajya Sabha by the end of 2020, which will clear the way to push for major legislations.

https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/opinion/pm-modis-victory-made-gilgit-baltistan-happy

 

[Absolut_Vodka]

14 th aug for Pakistan and 15th aug for India are said to be days to look out for ,I am assuming we might reveal some details but I don't want to be let down again .
Also waiting for some Indian to write a book to reveal something.

14 and 15 August, Pakistan and India may award valour of pilots. What remains to be seen is if paki pilots speculated to be dead by us shows up for taking award.

 

[Prashant12]

One terrorist has been killed in Budgam encounter, operation continues.

 

[Deathstar]

I am not sure on Hassan siddiqui coz his name has been out and he's credited with the op ,so he might be alive but shahbaz has not been credited so, he might be the one who's dead.
I mean why will they release the name of a dead pilot ,to only get caught with pants down ,so I think they are deliberately letting speculations grow on Hassan siddiqui ,just to shut us up by showing him ,like they did with shajuddin .

I feel the same , they have hidden F16B pilot name

 

[sorcerer]

I feel the same , they have hidden F16B pilot name

Our administration has said that they have the name of the dead porki jihadi pilot and ...... repeated it thrice and one time by the former RM herself,