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[sorcerer]

All is well.Let dance together India Pakistan bhai bhai.
Lets all hail 56inch chanakya's diplomacy.

India, Pakistan foreign ministers to meet on sidelines of UNGA

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/in...on-sidelines-of-unga/articleshow/65886639.cms

We can expect the UNGA meeting on the sideline, which is a regular feature of the program to be highlighted.But, its too early to celebrate on it.

Almost all parties be it the congress, the commies, AAP, and everyone else batting for the TALKS with pak. Sidhu tried to make a mark with a career in politics trying to play the role of a peace dove who is relevant in the peace equation with pak. That fool just got the taste of pak double talk . Good for Sidhu, he deserved it.

The primary reason why they want the Indian Govt to talk after such an incident is to dilute the NDA stance that they are standing strong against pak.
The stand NDA took did hurt pakis very bad, economically and diplomatically.
With the new administration in pakistan, pak is trying to dislodge the NDA's stance.

The opposition in India wants to make it a political game, as every incident along the LoC which hogs the media time. They just want to make BJP look weak in front of pakistan.
The beheading incident, is just another chance the opposition got.

The surgical strike and the media release on it has hurt them opposition much.

Its too early to celebrate on the UNGA talks. As there is nothing substantial to be gained from this talk other than the Media propaganda fanned by opposition.
If there is no agenda, there is no point in the talks.

The only hope pak is keeping for the talk is that this is the first time EVER the NEW pak foreign minister under the new pak administration is trying to "meet" the Indian Foreign minister.
So naturally, they are expecting an OBLIGATION along that line with the Indian side.
BUT
They pak is also trying to make it a media circus in India for the opposition of India to score some brownie points with the PHOTO OPS at UNGA Meet, now that the election heat is getting intense.

 

[Anikastha]

Some treat for your eyes

I think he must be some officer. Look at his body posture and he aint carrying a gun.

 

[Pandeyji]

(to which Porks are laughing their asses off on social media).

And? Let me remind you that they think that they won every wat against India except for 1971 (which India won with Soviet & BD help) Common sense isn't the forte of Pakis.

We can expect the UNGA meeting on the sideline, which is a regular feature of the program to be highlighted.But, its too early to celebrate on it.

Almost all parties be it the congress, the commies, AAP, and everyone else batting for the TALKS with pak. Sidhu tried to make a mark with a career in politics trying to play the role of a peace dove who is relevant in the peace equation with pak. That fool just got the taste of pak double talk . Good for Sidhu, he deserved it.

The primary reason why they want the Indian Govt to talk after such an incident is to dilute the NDA stance that they are standing strong against pak.
The stand NDA took did hurt pakis very bad, economically and diplomatically.
With the new administration in pakistan, pak is trying to dislodge the NDA's stance.

The opposition in India wants to make it a political game, as every incident along the LoC which hogs the media time. They just want to make BJP look weak in front of pakistan.
The beheading incident, is just another chance the opposition got.

The surgical strike and the media release on it has hurt them opposition much.

Its too early to celebrate on the UNGA talks. As there is nothing substantial to be gained from this talk other than the Media propaganda fanned by opposition.
If there is no agenda, there is no point in the talks.

The only hope pak is keeping for the talk is that this is the first time EVER the NEW pak foreign minister under the new pak administration is trying to "meet" the Indian Foreign minister.
So naturally, they are expecting an OBLIGATION along that line with the Indian side.
BUT
They pak is also trying to make it a media circus in India for the opposition of India to score some brownie points with the PHOTO OPS at UNGA Meet, now that the election heat is getting intense.

Excellent. Couldn't have said it better

 

[Pandeyji]

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[Prashant12]

Government calls off talks with Pakistan at UNGA.

 

[Pandeyji]

The Govt is not going to have any talks with Pakistan now. Uri was the last time it happened. Unless & until IK & Fauj show some serious commitment like giving us Masood Azhar or Daood or stopping Hafiz Saeed they could write as many letters they wish. Because the truth is without Indian business & backing Pakistan is US/China bitch. And they have realised it. Hence this letter & the request by their Army Chief

 

[tharun]

Yo...That's an over kill...

Some treat for your eyes

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[Anikastha]

Yo...That's an over kill...

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Its required.
I think even more was needed.

 

[ezsasa]

Some treat for your eyes

Let’s wait till @Defenceanalyst91 approves of it.........

 

[HindaviSwarajya]

Good that govt called off talks

 

[nongaddarliberal]

Government calls off talks with Pakistan at UNGA.

With or without government talks, the Indian army will retaliate in the way it sees fit. If the pakis can play a double game of talks and border attacks, so can we. But it is good that we cancelled the talks, as it would simply be a waste of time, as it has been for the past 71 years.

 

[Enquirer]

nice but so many bullets for one guy? or was it multiple casaulities inflicted?

So many bullets?
Overall the kill-ratio is normally 50,000 bullets to 1 kill (at least in Vietnam)!!

 

[mayfair]

With or without government talks, the Indian army will retaliate in the way it sees fit. If the pakis can play a double game of talks and border attacks, so can we. But it is good that we cancelled the talks, as it would simply be a waste of time, as it has been for the past 71 years.

Talks are irrelevant and inconsequential for us, they mean the world to Pakistan. Now wait for the rona-dhona to begin.

 

[Indrajit]

Government calls off talks with Pakistan at UNGA.

I don’t think the MEA has handled this well. They mention stamps issued of terrorists which were done in July before IK was PM and the language used is pretty intemperate against the Pakistani PM. They are referring to “evil”etc, this is silly and makes us look stupid. Also what exactly did the spokesperson mean when he said the new Pakistani PM’s face has been exposed in the first ‘few months’ when the guy has been in office for just a month. It was a stupid decision to agree to talks but even more stupid to cancel it like this. We just handed Pakistan a big talking point unnecessarily. If talks had to be canceled, a brief, terse statement was the only thing required.

 

[nongaddarliberal]

I don’t think the MEA has handled this well. They mention stamps issued of terrorists which were done in July before IK was PM and the language used is pretty intemperate against the Pakistani PM. They are referring to “evil”etc, this is silly and makes us look stupid. Also what exactly did the spokesperson mean when he said the new Pakistani PM’s face has been exposed in the first ‘few months’ when the guy has been in office for just a month. It was a stupid decision to agree to talks but even more stupid to cancel it like this. We just handed Pakistan a big talking point unnecessarily. If talks had to be canceled, a brief, terse statement was the only thing required.

All Indian government spokespersons should realize that words like "evil", "barbaric", "nefarious", "agression" etc are taken as compliments by the pakis and only help them in their propaganda. We should use demeaning and dismissive words to describe these incidents, like "ineffective", "useless", "puny" etc.

 

[Enquirer]

I don’t think the MEA has handled this well. They mention stamps issued of terrorists which were done in July before IK was PM and the language used is pretty intemperate against the Pakistani PM. They are referring to “evil”etc, this is silly and makes us look stupid. Also what exactly did the spokesperson mean when he said the new Pakistani PM’s face has been exposed in the first ‘few months’ when the guy has been in office for just a month. It was a stupid decision to agree to talks but even more stupid to cancel it like this. We just handed Pakistan a big talking point unnecessarily. If talks had to be canceled, a brief, terse statement was the only thing required.

The stamps were only shown to the Paki army folks in July. It's official PUBLIC issuance started only in the last 24 hours!! As such Indian MEA is right in opposing it. Further, raising an issue about Pakis internal discussions/considerations about stamp issuance (as would have been the case before the last 24 hours) would not be considered diplomatic!

The public issuance of the stamps right after India announced the MEA talks, was definitely timed to test & taunt India. If the Paki army seriously wanted the talks they would have held back on the issuance. Pakis only want to put up a charade that Pakis are peace lovers & India pull back from the process!
(it should be obvious by now what their strategy is - Pathankot etc!)

As regards the wording of the spokesperson's statement: It appears that the Hindi version was very accurate and diplomatic. The English version didn't quite translate exactly - it does appear more hawkish than the Hindi version!

 

[dhananjay1]

Looks like recent killings of the Indian soldier and policemen are to show Imran Khan his place by the Paki army.

 

[Indrajit]

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The public issuance of the stamps right after India announced the MEA talks, was definitely timed to test & taunt India. If the Paki army seriously wanted the talks they would have held back on the issuance. Pakis only want to put up a charade that Pakis are peace lovers & India pull back from the process!
(it should be obvious by now what their strategy is - Pathankot etc!)
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Should have stuck to a simple, terse statement saying that the environment was vitiated etc, there was no reason to talk about face of Imran Khan being exposed etc, we are going to have to deal with him for the next 5 years possibly. This doesn’t play well.

You are absolutely right about Pakistani strategy as already known. All the more reason not to have rushed to announce talks. Could have waited for the last minute or not announced it in public before.Either not enough background work was done beforehand or there still are very gullible people at the very top of our government. We had played this perfectly till this talk on, talk off episode. Cancellation was possibly warranted but that should have been done with a minimum of fuss.

 

[Enquirer]

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Should have stuck to a simple, terse statement saying that the environment was vitiated etc, there was no reason to talk about face of Imran Khan being exposed etc, we are going to have to deal with him for the next 5 years possibly. This doesn’t play well.

You are absolutely right about Pakistani strategy as already known. All the more reason not to have rushed to announce talks. Could have waited for the last minute or not announced it in public before.Either not enough background work was done beforehand or there still are very gullible people at the very top of our government. We had played this perfectly till this talk on, talk off episode. Cancellation was possibly warranted but that should have been done with a minimum of fuss.

A personal attack on someone like Nawaz Sharif would have been considered undiplomatic; but some stark words about Taliban Khan is really not a big deal at all!!! He's the scumbag who openly supports Taliban that kills NATO forces & all the alphabet soup Jihadi tanzeems that target Indians!!
Remember that he was hounded out of Peshawar by the parents of the slain school kids - because he had openly supported the killers of the kids!!
When Indian police & forces are brutally killed & mutilated while the perpetrators & the jihadi tanzeems are glorified in Paki postage stamps, few tough words are required to send a clear signal!!

 

[NeXoft007]

Four Pakistan Army posts destroyed by BSF in retaliation.