ppgj
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well delays may not be ruled out considering the complexities involved. better to wait on that. but to cancel a programme in lieu of MCA which is not even in design stage is a bit too far fetched. plus it gives indian aviation specialists loads of experience for MCA. PAKFA is a reality in tech demo stage while MCA is not even in design stage. 5 or more billion dollar, india can afford in current circumstances.Well, that recent article about FGFA says India may not get hers until as late as 2019. Given Russia's constant delays, it may well be into the 2020s, can India afford to tie up $5 billion to wait that long? Lets not forget the cost spiral US is having with their programme, Russia is bound to experience it too if not worse.
gorshkov controversy has been made bigger than it deserves. india's ex chief is on record that it is worth the monies being spent. he infact challenged people to get a similar AC with the revised cost from any one. he offered a blank cheque!!I'm really worried that come 2017, India is going to be looking at a stalled project with Russia demanding billions more to develop it. It could be the "Gorshkov" of the aviation industry.
agree but the issue is it is still not out of the box. right now indians are busy operationalising LCA 1 now and LCA2 later. MCA is only after that.At least with MCA, India would have control. Control is a nice thing to have, really nice.
no problem.I'm not going to argue anymore about the figure, but I still believe it.
atleast russia cares more than anybody else. considering they have india as their biggest market, it only serves their interest.Russia doesn't care about India contributing except for cash money. They are trying as hard as they can to keep HAL out of all the critical components. The recent article gave a couple examples of how much disdain Russia has for India's R&D coming straight out of the mouth of their officials.
as for the critical components, india is still behind. will only gain with this programme.
that is exactly why this programme is a joint venture. post its success, india will be in a good position to be an aerospace power.While you are busy saying how unrealistic it is, you could be spending monies set aside for FGFA on your own R&D base. Most of the $5 billion is going to develop Russia, not India.
mere capital infusion in india is not going to help because it is still behind in critical areas like radars, engines.I'm not going to say you will not be in a better position, but you have to look at the dates and the money spent for your own R&D prospects. 24,000 crore would go a long way to developing your own testing facilities, you could build better than Russia several times over again with that kind of capital infusion. If Russia gets delayed or faces cost overuns, scrapping it for an advanced MCA schedule would be the wiser choice. I know India likes to say money isn't a problem, but it really doesn't grow on trees. 24,000 crore is alot of money to anyone.
while capital won't be an issue considering india's present growth, it is the experience in such projects which is going to help india to set up a base for r&d for the future. hence PAKFA cancellation for MCA is not even worth a thought from an indian pov.