Should muslim nations have only dictators ??

Should muslim nations have only dictators ??


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Blackwater

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well Pakistan is unstable from the past few years.
2006onwards

you can compare pak past with India example with thousands of deaths in single riots be it the Sikh genocides for khalistan movement or the gujrat riots

stability in Pakistan is related to the govt and the step they should take

all these are temporary problems

i think drama have just started. long way to go before its ends
 

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Odd that you gloat about the CJ sacking the PM.

I am afraid that is what I am saying.

You all have no idea of democracy and all you understand is strong handling and without rationale.

That is why you are most comfortable with military dictatorship.

You have not even read my post or understood law.

No CJ or Court can sack anyone if it does not contravene a Law promulgated by the Parliament.

The Parliament is SUPREME. It is VOX POPULI, VOX DEI.

The Supreme Court can solely interpret the Law and if Constitutional Provisions have been violated can throw the law out.

In the case of PM Gilani, he was perfunctorily thrown out without any commentary of any violation of the Law passed by the Parliament or violation of the Constitution.

That is Dadagiri.

And why is no one making noise?

It is because none has the guts in Pakistan to taken on the heavy hand that has guided Pakistan all through - the Army!
dada giri
if this would have happened in India.than your answer would be different
you dont know the whole story regarding gilani

i dont know in which sense can you guys pay that army has control over democracy
do you guys has anyproof?
 

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dada giri
if this would have happened in India.than your answer would be different
you dont know the whole story regarding gilani

i dont know in which sense can you guys pay that army has control over democracy
do you guys has anyproof
?


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victim of Indian media aka aj tak

you think more about Pakistan than yourself
khuda kasam , on the contrary, i watch pak channel more. i get geonews,ary,ptv world,express news


right now watching mubashir luchman show on ary with musharraf
 
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well Pakistan is unstable from the past few years.
2006onwards

you can compare pak past with India example with thousands of deaths in single riots be it the Sikh genocides for khalistan movement or the gujrat riots

stability in Pakistan is related to the govt and the step they should take

all these are temporary problems
Pakistan has always been unstable.

You could not even decide on your Constitution till 1956.

You had to change JInnah from a Shia to a Sunni because of total insecurity to face reality.

You have had more years under the military than the civil democracy and that too, even then the Army held the Sword.

Your Govts have never been able to take any decision without the Army's permission (Read Musharraf's book).

Your whole country is a see saw from military to civil and then military and so on.

You kill your co religionists like the Shias and persecute falsely the minority and convert them by force.

And you call that being stable?

Some stability indeed!

You hitch yourself to the US for a long time and then swiftly convert to China and yet put the begging bowl out to the US and can't make up your mind and sell yourself to the highest bidder!

And more that 65 years into Independence and you call all this as 'temporary problems'!!!!!!!
 
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Saudi govt provides US$ 300 mln in aid to Pakistan


Monday, March 10, 2008
ISLAMABAD: The Saudi Government has provided US$ 300million to Pakistan to meet the budgetary gaps effectively and to promote macro economic stability in the country.

According to the officials of the Finance Ministry here Monday, the Saudi government has given the budgetary support as a goodwill gesture for the people of Pakistan.The grant will help bridge the fiscal gap that arose due to high global prices of oil and petroleum products.

The Saudi move has come after President Pervez Musharraf's recent visit to Saudi Arabia during which he asked the King Abdullah to help Pakistan in defraying the cost of high oil prices.

They said the decision of the Saudi Government is timely and will help Pakistan in meeting the budgetary gaps effectively and promoting macro economic stability in the country.


http://www.geo.tv/home/15060.htm

Ah, fill the Begging bowl: -- What boots it to repeat
How time is slipping underneath our Feet.
Unborn TO-MORROW, and dead YESTERDAY,
Why fret about them if TO-DAY's Begging Effort be sweet?

The Begging Bowl wanders the globe; and, having Wandered and Collected the alms,
Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
Shall allow anyone to take it back or steal half a penny,
Nor all thy Tears wash out the Sorrow that is Pakistan!

apologies to Omar Khayyam
 
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Pakistan has always been unstable.

You could not even decide on your Constitution till 1956.

You had to change JInnah from a Shia to a Sunni because of total insecurity to face reality.

You have had more years under the military than the civil democracy and that too, even then the Army held the Sword.

Your Govts have never been able to take any decision without the Army's permission (Read Musharraf's book).

Your whole country is a see saw from military to civil and then military and so on.

You kill your co religionists like the Shias and persecute falsely the minority and convert them by force.

And you call that being stable?

Some stability indeed!

You hitch yourself to the US for a long time and then swiftly convert to China and yet put the begging bowl out to the US and can't make up your mind and sell yourself to the highest bidder!

And more that 65 years into Independence and you call all this as 'temporary problems'!!!!!!!
if so is the care than India so much more unstable than Pakistan

by problems i meant the bombing and killings

this is more of an civil

Pakistan has always enjoyed less poverty and a much better standard of living than India even at present

my friend who has been to India
he said the poverty situation in India is so worse that one cannot even imagine it in Pakistan
he said in Mumbai the beggars are 8 times more than ordinary people
he further said none of the footpath is free at night and there is no place left even to walk on footpath
he further said poor people has written there name over the footpath so that no one take his place

Pakistan has been a much better country than India living a life with good standard

but the last few years were Indeed very worse

while you guys take billions of aid nor the sake of poverty while invest that money into military equipment and space Program(British media says so)
 

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if so is the care than India so much more unstable than Pakistan

by problems i meant the bombing and killings

this is more of an civil

Pakistan has always enjoyed less poverty and a much better standard of living than India even at present

my friend who has been to India
he said the poverty situation in India is so worse that one cannot even imagine it in Pakistan
he said in Mumbai the beggars are 8 times more than ordinary people
he further said none of the footpath is free at night and there is no place left even to walk on footpath
he further said poor people has written there name over the footpath so that no one take his place

Pakistan has been a much better country than India living a life with good standard

but the last few years were Indeed very worse

while you guys take billions of aid nor the sake of poverty while invest that money into military equipment and space Program(British media says so)
You have a myopic vision.

Bombings are universal.

It is more in Pakistan because Sunnis want to ride over the Shias. That is God's Undiluted Truth. Religious Power and Religious Ascendancy. The crude manifestation of the historical spiritual war for temporal and not spiritual gain. That feeling that one is the Purest and the other is Muck!

Of course Pakistan has a much better standard of living than India or even the US. So, why all this whining that one finds all the time resounding from Pakistan?

Pakistanis are blind to everything since they feel that they alone are the bestest. Obviously, they will forget their own grime and poverty and feel others are doing worse. The insecure do have such an affliction!

We don't take billions of aid. Ask UK. We told them to keep their aid and called it peanut. They were livid. Not surprising that you missed that part.

Not only have we money to have a space programme, we also have money to buy weapons and aircraft with the largest defence deal paid upfront in CASH!

Not like Pakistan begging the US and China and wailing how they are helping them in the War on Terror and so on!

Such a pathetic lot that they act tough with the CIA chap who killed ISI chaps and then he is let go because money is paid.

Indeed Pakistan money is religion, right?

Great morality indeed!

But see how Pakistan moves around with the Begging Bowl! ;)

Got me, Steve? ;)
 
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thakur_ritesh

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in 2004-05 pak economy grew by more than at 8%

in the past

China's New Growth Challenger Is Pakistan: Mukherjee (Correct) - Bloomberg
Just a few World Bank figures to keep abreast with, rather than go with the flow of sensationalist media.

Aid flow into Pakistan:

World Development Indicators and Global Development Finance - Google Public Data Explorer

In '05 Pakistan's GDP was 109b usd (World Development Indicators and Global Development Finance - Google Public Data Explorer). The aid flow into Pakistan that fiscal was 1.6b usd, that aid was 1.5% of the GDP, and also 1.5% point of 7.67% achieved in '05. If that 1.5% point was to be taken out, Pakistan's growth stunts to 6.17%. That fiscal India was to achieve 9.28% growth rate (World Development Indicators and Global Development Finance - Google Public Data Explorer).

6.17% of 109b usd is 6.7b usd, and 9.28% of 834b4usd is 77.4b usd, 12 times the difference when the difference between the size of the population is between 6-6.5 times. So what Andy Mukherjee says is of little or no consequence.

Contrast between Pakistan and Sub-Sahara Africa growth rate:

World Development Indicators and Global Development Finance - Google Public Data Explorer

The period you've mentioned, even Sub-Saharan Africa was growing, nothing unique done by the Mush regime. Of course when Musharraf was around, loans were to be written off by the international donors, and so he was to claim for the first time Pakistan was out of the clutches of the IMF, which was to be portrayed as a big victory.
 

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But isn't KSA the epicenter of Islam?
How can we call the marriage of democracy and muslims complete when the core itself is courting autocracy?
Farhan do you have a view to share on this?

well i would want the thread starter to mention those events because of whom he wants muslim countries to have dictatorship
How about Salman Taseer's killing, his assasin's glorification and people's obsession with blasphemy .. for starters??

he said the poverty situation in India is so worse that one cannot even imagine it in Pakistan
he said in Mumbai the beggars are 8 times more than ordinary people
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well Pakistan is unstable from the past few years.
2006onwards
you can compare pak past with India example with thousands of deaths in single riots be it the Sikh genocides for khalistan movement or the gujrat riots
stability in Pakistan is related to the govt and the step they should take
all these are temporary problems
Entire Pakistan is burning left right & center, terrorists are beating civilians & army with same stick, sectarian clashes are daily routine amid a gutted economy and you're comparing all this with an insurgency in one of the 28 states in India?
 

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the day muslims can stop mulaahs from hijacking islam that will be the day muslim counties will have democracy.
watch turkey.
 

Nagraj

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and no in 21 st century no country or group of people should have to suffer under dictatorship.
 

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Entire Pakistan is burning left right & center, terrorists are beating civilians & army with same stick, sectarian clashes are daily routine amid a gutted economy and you're comparing all this with an insurgency in one of the 28 states in India?
And an insurgency that was quelled more then two decades back!!!

Actually, he is a typical Paki - Pakistaniyat is oozing out of him. Though they are a totally failed state and really cannot compare themselves with India in any way or manner, their psychological conditioning will never allow them to admit this, and they go into denial mode.

They have been brought up on a constant diet of victimhood and so-called "Pakistani and Islamic superiority" - so when those kids grow up and see around them, that all nations and people are doing much better than them, and they are actually the worst of the worst, they make up conspiracy theories and fabricate facts to try to justify the reality to themselves.

This chap is exhibiting all the typical symptoms of Pakistaniyat.
 

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if so is the care than India so much more unstable than Pakistan

by problems i meant the bombing and killings

this is more of an civil

Pakistan has always enjoyed less poverty and a much better standard of living than India even at present

my friend who has been to India
he said the poverty situation in India is so worse that one cannot even imagine it in Pakistan
he said in Mumbai the beggars are 8 times more than ordinary people
he further said none of the footpath is free at night and there is no place left even to walk on footpath
he further said poor people has written there name over the footpath so that no one take his place

Pakistan has been a much better country than India living a life with good standard

but the last few years were Indeed very worse

while you guys take billions of aid nor the sake of poverty while invest that money into military equipment and space Program(British media says so)
There is no denial that We have poor people.
 

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