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BTW why is Avestan considered a separate language and that as an Iranian branch when it appears to be just a dialect of Sanskrit.
 

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Key data points on Eurasian steps

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2000-1000bce = Andronovo culture
Language not known
Religion not known
Hypothesized Indo-Iranian
Hypothesized Indo-Iranian religion

1000-200bce = replaced by Scythia
Language - Eastern Iranian
Religion - Neither Zoroastrian Nor Vedic

200bce-400ce - eastern Scythians are Indianized and follow Vedic religion.

If Scythians came from Indo-Iranians
Who split into Avestan & Vedic anywhere around 1000-800bce, shouldn't their religion at least be same as the Iranians?

In case Scythians descended from Andronovo culture directly wouldn't that make Andronovo culture who are hypothesized to be Indo Iranians to be distinct from Vedic Avestan & Mittani.
 

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Can't find 1 picture of 2000bce chariot from Russia. If someone finds it post it here.

Let's give early morning shock to Europeans, Balto-Slavic languages derive from Iranian languages which in turn derives from Vedic 😀
 

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1500bce = Proto-Vedic
1200bce = Rig Vedic
1000bce = Avestan
800bce = Scythian Iranian

Let's add direction to it

1500bce = Direction Unknown
1200bce = East of Indus
1000bce = West of Indus
800bce = North of Indus


Wait! Why does that look like out of India Model 😂
 

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BTW why is Avestan considered a separate language and that as an Iranian branch when it appears to be just a dialect of Sanskrit.
There are no ancient zoroastrian texts that refer to their language as avestan. In fact no one knew of any original zoroastrian language of any name. Oldest canonical liturgy of iranians was done by eugene burnouf with the help of an older Sanskrit translation of the pahlavi version of the avesta that was done by the parsi Naryo-Sangh in the 1500ad-1700ad. So whatever is written about the 3000 plus year old “avesta” is derived from verbal accounts of 17th century ad parsi scholars contemporary texts and a 13th century book that was written in pahlavi language and translated to Sanskrit.
 

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There are no ancient zoroastrian texts that refer to their language as avestan. In fact no one knew of any original zoroastrian language of any name. Oldest canonical liturgy of iranians was done by eugene burnouf with the help of an older Sanskrit translation of the pahlavi version of the avesta that was done by the parsi Naryo-Sangh in the 1500ad-1700ad. So whatever is written about the 3000 plus year old “avesta” is derived from verbal accounts of 17th century ad parsi scholars contemporary texts and a 13th century book that was written in pahlavi language and translated to Sanskrit.
So when did S of vedic changed to H?
Was it introduced later?
Does than mean language of Avestan is actually Sanskrit or a dilect of Sanskrit?
 

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So when did S of vedic changed to H?
Was it introduced later?
Does than mean language of Avestan is actually Sanskrit or a dilect of Sanskrit?
VEDAS including RIG YAJUR AND SAM existed before ATHARVA are all in SANSKRIT.Many Vedic hymns had already been written before the avesta even started.

Meanwhile this avesta has references to the Atharva Veda, showing that the Atharva Veda already existed at the time of composition of the avesta. Infact all pre-zoroastrian gods that are mentioned in zoroastrian texts and absorbed into the zoroastrian tradition are also mentioned in the Vedas.

That main atharvan sage of avesta – Bhrigu has an ancient town bearing his name in the Indian state of Gujarat namely Bharuch. The historic name of Bharuch was “Bhrigu-kaksha”. Even today “Bharucha” is a well-known name among parsis. That apart there are certain areas of modern day Gujarat where the people speak Gujarati with the exact same “sound changes” of “sa” to “ha” which coomerss whined is a special change that occurred among zoroastrians in iran. Obviously that sound change is no iranian specialty.
 

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So Scythians were Europid but spoke Iranian language. Interesting!

A genetic study published in Nature in May 2018 examined the remains of twenty-eight Sakas buried between ca. 900 BC to AD 1, compromising eight Sakas of southern Siberia (Tagar culture), eight Sakas of the central steppe (Tasmola culture), and twelve Sakas of the Tian Shan. The six samples of Y-DNA extracted from the Tian Shan Saka belonged to the haplogroups R (four samples), R1 and R1a1. The samples of mtDNA extracted from the Tien Shan Saka belonged to C4, H4d, T2a1, U5a1d2b, H2a, U5a1a1, HV6 (two samples), D4j8 (two samples), W1c and G2a1. The study detected significant genetic differences between the Sakas and Scythians of the Pannonian Basin, and between Sakas of southern Siberia, the central steppe and the Tian Shan. Tian Shan Sakas were found to be of about 70% Western Steppe Herder (WSH) ancestry, 25% Siberian Hunter-Gatherer ancestry and 5% Iranian Neolithic ancestry. The Iranian Neolithic ancestry was primarily male-derived, probably from the Bactria–Margiana Archaeological Complex. Sakas of the Tasmola culture were found to be of about 56% WSH ancestry and 44% Siberian Hunter-Gather ancestry. The peoples of the Tagar culture had about 83.5% WSH ancestry, 9% Ancient North Eurasian (ANE) ancestry and 7.5% Siberian Hunter-Gatherer ancestry. The study suggested that the Saka were the source of west Eurasian ancestry among the Xiongnu, and that the Huns probably emerged through conquests of Sakas by the Xiongnu, which is characterized by increased levels of East Asian paternal ancestry in Central Asia.

These guys migrated into India 200bce and ruled from 150bce-400bce.

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So Scythians were Europid but spoke Iranian language. Interesting!

A genetic study published in Nature in May 2018 examined the remains of twenty-eight Sakas buried between ca. 900 BC to AD 1, compromising eight Sakas of southern Siberia (Tagar culture), eight Sakas of the central steppe (Tasmola culture), and twelve Sakas of the Tian Shan. The six samples of Y-DNA extracted from the Tian Shan Saka belonged to the haplogroups R (four samples), R1 and R1a1. The samples of mtDNA extracted from the Tien Shan Saka belonged to C4, H4d, T2a1, U5a1d2b, H2a, U5a1a1, HV6 (two samples), D4j8 (two samples), W1c and G2a1. The study detected significant genetic differences between the Sakas and Scythians of the Pannonian Basin, and between Sakas of southern Siberia, the central steppe and the Tian Shan. Tian Shan Sakas were found to be of about 70% Western Steppe Herder (WSH) ancestry, 25% Siberian Hunter-Gatherer ancestry and 5% Iranian Neolithic ancestry. The Iranian Neolithic ancestry was primarily male-derived, probably from the Bactria–Margiana Archaeological Complex. Sakas of the Tasmola culture were found to be of about 56% WSH ancestry and 44% Siberian Hunter-Gather ancestry. The peoples of the Tagar culture had about 83.5% WSH ancestry, 9% Ancient North Eurasian (ANE) ancestry and 7.5% Siberian Hunter-Gatherer ancestry. The study suggested that the Saka were the source of west Eurasian ancestry among the Xiongnu, and that the Huns probably emerged through conquests of Sakas by the Xiongnu, which is characterized by increased levels of East Asian paternal ancestry in Central Asia.

These guys migrated into India 200bce and ruled from 150bce-400bce.

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Except for jihadicucks all of those be it hunas sakas scythians all assimilated and became part of Bharat's legacy.The Scythians were staunch SANATANI BHARTIYA as well. They spoke, wrote and used Sanskrit. They had names of Vedic Arya Gods (Rudrasimha, Rudravarman), Kshatriya 2nd names (Varman) & patronized Vedic Sanatana DHARMA.

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The titular name being Svāmi (a Sanskrit name for Lord). The Scythians even tried to appear "more Indian than the Indians" by starting the trend of inscriptions in Sanskritized Prakrit.

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The Northern Satrap ruler, Svāmi Mahākšatrapa Śodāsa had many inscriptions dedicated to BHAGWAAN Vāsudeva commemorating DHARMIC Temples.

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Except for jihadicucks all of those be it hunas sakas scythians all assimilated and became part of Bharat's legacy.The Scythians were staunch SANATANI BHARTIYA as well. They spoke, wrote and used Sanskrit. They had names of Vedic Arya Gods (Rudrasimha, Rudravarman), Kshatriya 2nd names (Varman) & patronized Vedic Sanatana DHARMA.

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The titular name being Svāmi (a Sanskrit name for Lord). The Scythians even tried to appear "more Indian than the Indians" by starting the trend of inscriptions in Sanskritized Prakrit.

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The Northern Satrap ruler, Svāmi Mahākšatrapa Śodāsa had many inscriptions dedicated to BHAGWAAN Vāsudeva commemorating DHARMIC Temples.

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Main Kushan rulers
  • Kujula Kadphises (c. 30 – c. 80)
  • Vima Taktu or Sadashkana (c. 80 – c. 95)
  • Vima Kadphises (c. 95 – c. 127)
  • Kanishka I (c. 127 – c. 150)
  • Huvishka (c. 150 – c. 180)
  • Vasudeva I (c. 190 – c. 230)
  • Vāsishka (c. 247 – c. 267)
  • Little Kushans (AD 270-350)
They too became more Indian than Indian themselves 😍

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1500bce = Proto-Vedic
1200bce = Rig Vedic
1000bce = Avestan
800bce = Scythian Iranian

Let's add direction to it

1500bce = Direction Unknown
1200bce = East of Indus
1000bce = West of Indus
800bce = North of Indus


Wait! Why does that look like out of India Model 😂
This tard infested geneology or whatever comes directly from muellers delusional masturbation who believed that since Buddhism presupposed the VEDIC corpus (BRAHAMANAS , UPANISHADS and AARYANAKAS) and SUTRAS which coomer believed are from 6th bce or later. Because christian believed yahoovah the jewish tribal magickal sky daddy created universe in 4004 bce and destroyed it in noahs flood in 3000 bce larp so nothing could survive this. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Then this psychotic coomer went on to assign 200 yrs for no reason just out of fantasy flinging. So delusional 200 saal for BRAHMANAS composition another 200 Saal for UPANISHADS thats 800 bce tak. Then another 200 saal for SAMA VEDA and allway upto RIGVEDA at 1500 bce.


Soon after he started receiving buttseks for this fraud conjencture viz SANSKRIT Pioneers of BHARATA and elsewhere also from eurfags when they confronted muellers retarded ass for this blunder mueller immediately issued this correction "NO POWER ON EARTH WILL BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHETHER VEDIC HYMNS were composed in 1000 1500 or 2000 before christ".

Its clear that coomer did not pay attention to Original Buddhist texts because they are in BHARTIYA language which mueller does not know nor understood.

बौद्ध ग्रंथ महावंश में श्रीराम, दशरथ,भरत,कुश आदि राजाओं को बौद्धों का माई-बाप लिखा गया है अनुवादक भी बौद्ध भिक्षु है और प्रकाशन भी सम्यक प्रकाशन है.

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Main Kushan rulers
  • Kujula Kadphises (c. 30 – c. 80)
  • Vima Taktu or Sadashkana (c. 80 – c. 95)
  • Vima Kadphises (c. 95 – c. 127)
  • Kanishka I (c. 127 – c. 150)
  • Huvishka (c. 150 – c. 180)
  • Vasudeva I (c. 190 – c. 230)
  • Vāsishka (c. 247 – c. 267)
  • Little Kushans (AD 270-350)
They too became more Indian than Indian themselves 😍

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Sab BHARTIYA hai bhai idhar aakar sab civilized hogaye got initiated into the fold of DHARMA.
 

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Arguments of AIT/AMT scholars on actual archaeological evidence from Harappan civilization.

01 Pashupati seal isn't Shiva
02 Horse like bones are likely Ass
03 Fire alters are likely cooking ovens
04 Chariot in Sinauli is likely a Cart
05 Lingams arent really Shivling
06 Priest King isnt really a Priest
07 Swastika proves nothing


But without any archaeological evidence

01 Andronovo are Indo-Iranian
02 BMAC is later phase of migration
03 Harappan language is Proto-Dravidian

😂😆
 

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Take the example of Afghans Pashtuns

01 Indian ancestry
02 Iranian language
03 Arab religion

Suppose they find an Afghan Pashtun Skelton 5000 years later. Guys like Parapola and Reiche would say ......

Lo and behold here lived ancient South Asians who spoke a linguistic ancestor of some extinct American language and followed an American culture as they found ancient AK47s and RPGs buried with it which were first manufactured in America ......

Something like that 😂
 

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