Scientists reconstruct faces of Indus Valley people

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I was fooled.

I should have checked this claim of chariot. I thought it was true and proven. 😖
Nothing is true and proven everythings moo ka bawaseer.For example like coomers still wish to whine about dereivka horse of 4200 bc which was retracted by the author himself who was coomer anthony when the radio carbon dating proved him wrong but cuckurganshiets wont shut up still quote whoring his larp in those joke of academia.
 

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That coomers delusional bychcraft claimed in form of now debunked kurgan theory is that the horse riding first occurred in the steppy along with later invention of chariots.:rofl::rofl::rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Littauer & Crouwel reviewed anthony chutiya and confirmed sintashta had carts not chariots.Littauer & Crouwel classed the sintashta evidence as expressly non-chariots .

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Littauer & Crouwel further noted regarding sintashtaandronovofags ..these dimensions would render the vehicle impractical at speed and limit its maneuverability. These cannot yet be true chariots."

From: Littauer, M. A., & Crouwel, J. H. (1996). The origin of the true chariot. Antiquity, 70(270), 934–939. doi:10.1017/s0003598x00084192

Ab ghode nahi toh apni gaand ghaseet kar iran aye the kya bc?
Lmao ,only wheel imprints in the soil were found in sintastha, they haven't found any full chariot or even the full wheel, just an imprint , based on those imprints they were claiming it as a chariot, while our sinauli is a full chariot.
 

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These AIT coomers ignore the fact that horse mentioned in Rigveda has 34 ribs ( native Siwalik and Arabian horse have 34 ribs) while Steppe horse has 36 ribs, Yet they claim those 36 ribbed horse riding so called Aryans invaded Bharat
 

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I had to read that book for 4 years while preparing for IAS 🙄

That book is so out dated. Newer evidences not even one mentioned in that books.
Do note that turkroachs , bactria which is labelled as south central "Asia" did not have horse before the bronze age bmac phase. The first generalized horse with rider was recovered from a seal recovered from a looted grave in afghanistan which is exacly like MARWARI horse of BHARATA confirming that the domestic BHARTIYA horses had reached afghanistan and bactria by 2000 bc the end of bronze age. But But cuckarganist label it as roachmenistani bmac horse top joke.

In those times afghanistan was part of BHARAT no nation state shiet existed in those times.
 

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It's too early for us too take on LW historians we need to develope the resources first
Yes Agree.

We need an army of People with sources from geology archaeology linguistic etc. YouTube is full of one sided Aryan invasion narrative in English language.

We need more guys like Abhijit, Talgari, Vedam etc to debunk these one sided narratives.

Survivethejive really needs to chill and overcome his bias. That fellow doesn't believe Yamnaya looked like the ones I shared. That guy is appropriating Vedic culture.
 

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Again let me remind you all....

WE HAVE NO EVIDENCE OF WHAT WAS SPOKEN IN BMAC or ANDRONOVO.
 

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From the paper:

Our results also have important implications for mechanisms underpinning two major language dispersals. The expansion of the Indo-European language family from the Western Eurasia steppes has traditionally been associated with mounted pastoralism, with the CWC serving as a major stepping stone in Europe39,40,41. However, while there is overwhelming lexical evidence for horse domestication, horse-drawn chariots and derived mythologies in the Indo-Iranian branch of the Indo-European family, the linguistic indications of horse-keeping practices at the deeper Proto-Indo-European level are in fact ambiguous42 (Supplementary Discussion) . The limited presence of horses in CWC assemblages43 and the local genetic makeup of CWC specimens reject scenarios in which horses were the primary driving force behind the initial spread of Indo-European languages in Europe44. By contrast, DOM2 dispersal in Asia during the early-to-mid second millennium BC was concurrent with the spread of chariotry and Indo-Iranian languages, whose earliest speakers are linked to populations that directly preceded the Sintashta culture11,12,45.We thus conclude that the new package of chariotry and improved breed of horses, including chestnut coat colouration documented both linguistically (Supplementary Discussion) and genetically (Extended Data Fig. 8), transformed Eurasian Bronze Age societies globally within a few centuries after about 2000 BC. The adoption of this new institution, whether for warfare, prestige or both, probably varied between decentralized chiefdoms in Europe and urbanized states in Western Asia. The results thus open up new research avenues into the historical developments of these different societal trajectories.
 

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Indo European languages into Europe wasn't horse and chariot driven?

Is that what it's saying?
Is it implying that European branches spread post 2000bce and most likely by Indo Iranians 😑

God! these researchers and lawyers need to speak simple language.
 

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although Eurasia was once populated by genetically distinct horse populations, a dramatic change had occurred between 2000 and 2200 BC. "That was a chance: the horses living in Anatolia, Europe, Central Asia and Siberia used to be genetically quite distinct" notes Dr Pablo Librado, first author of the study. Then, a single genetic profile, previously confined to the Pontic steppes (North Caucasus)3, began to spread beyond its native region, replacing all the wild horse populations from the Atlantic to Mongolia within a few centuries.
 

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The study also reveals that the horse spread throughout Asia at the same time as spoke-wheeled chariots and Indo-Iranian languages. However, the migrations of Indo-European populations, from the steppes to Europe during the third millennium BC could not have been based on the horse, as its domestication and diffusion came later. This demonstrates the importance of incorporating the history of animals when studying human migrations and encounters between cultures.

Interesting!
Then what explains words for Horse and chariot? BTW European word for Horse translates to hippo 😀
 

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although Eurasia was once populated by genetically distinct horse populations, a dramatic change had occurred between 2000 and 2200 BC. "That was a chance: the horses living in Anatolia, Europe, Central Asia and Siberia used to be genetically quite distinct" notes Dr Pablo Librado, first author of the study. Then, a single genetic profile, previously confined to the Pontic steppes (North Caucasus)3, began to spread beyond its native region, replacing all the wild horse populations from the Atlantic to Mongolia within a few centuries.
It has been proved from scientific studies that the steppy horse or the prezwalskii is not the ancestor of the domestic horse and is only very remotely related to the domestic horse. Then you have mohen jo daro exacvations recorded and confirmed that horse was present in mature SINDHU SARASVATI and from Chanhudaro , harappa , Surkotada and Kayatha too horse bones were found from 3rd millennium bc predating 2000 bce date and 2200 bc date.
 

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The study also reveals that the horse spread throughout Asia at the same time as spoke-wheeled chariots and Indo-Iranian languages. However, the migrations of Indo-European populations, from the steppes to Europe during the third millennium BC could not have been based on the horse, as its domestication and diffusion came later. This demonstrates the importance of incorporating the history of animals when studying human migrations and encounters between cultures.

Interesting!
Then what explains words for Horse and chariot? BTW European word for Horse translates to hippo 😀
P in those words come from Iranian Aspa <<<<< BHARTIYA Asva and loss of "s" occurred rather than retarded k>p horseshiet in formation of words like hippo-,epo- etc. In that hippo- the Iranian "s" changed to "h" : Asva (Indian)> aspa >*ahpa>hippo.
 

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The migration “was almost overnight,” says Orlando, whose study was published on October 20 in Nature. “This was not something that built up over thousands of years.”


There goes the waves of Aryan migrations over 500 years in ox driven sinauli chariot culminating with horse driven chariot Aryan.

Asko Parapola you are truly stupid 😶
 

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The migration “was almost overnight,” says Orlando, whose study was published on October 20 in Nature. “This was not something that built up over thousands of years.”


There goes the waves of Aryan migrations over 500 years in ox driven sinauli chariot culminating with horse driven chariot Aryan.

Asko Parapola you are truly stupid 😶
Ox driven Sinauli ?? It's a Horse chariot na... Sinauli is clearly a horse chariot. It's too small to be driven by an ox
 

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The migration “was almost overnight,” says Orlando, whose study was published on October 20 in Nature. “This was not something that built up over thousands of years.”


There goes the waves of Aryan migrations over 500 years in ox driven sinauli chariot culminating with horse driven chariot Aryan.

Asko Parapola you are truly stupid 😶
What this coomer claims when he says overnight?
 

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Ox driven Sinauli ?? It's a Horse chariot na... Sinauli is clearly a horse chariot. It's too small to be driven by an ox
Asko said it's ox driven that's why I called him stupid. He has identified them with PII.
 

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