Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

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To argue and prove useless to you. And not interesting. MOD Russia is the biggest liar. But you keep believing.
Yeah, yeah... Words, words, blah as always.

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What @gadeshi explained makes sense. The Russian forces have been using the Mil-24/35 right from the beginning and they have been operating with almost impunity. The electronic countermeasures, which are there in the Russian versions, are absent in the export versions. The one that was shot down most likely is the export version. Regarding landing gear, it is true that keeping the landing gear extended helps absorb shock while crash-landing. This philosophy has been carried over to the Mil-28N, where the landing gear is never retracted.
 

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Yeah, yeah... Words, words, blah as always.

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Mi-25

Mi-35
I'm tired of arguing with you - you are very wet blanket. Time will tell who of us was right.
 

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Mi-25

Mi-35
I'm tired of arguing with you - you are very wet blanket. Time will tell who of us was right.
Extended gear will tell us nothing.
Especially bearing in mind that Habibullin was not just a helo pilot. He was a squadron leader from Torzhok Center-2015 I've mentioned earlier, so he has a habit to extended gear before attack.
The second helo on this video is Mi-24/25 for sure. Mixed strike force in one pair? Very unlikely...
But please, continous to blah, it looks clawny :)

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Extended gear will tell us nothing.
Especially bearing in mind that Habibullin was not just a helo pilot. He was a squadron leader from Torzhok Center-2015 I've mentioned earlier, so he has a habit to extended gear before attack.
The second helo on this video is Mi-24/25 for sure. Mixed strike force in one pair? Very unlikely...
But please, continous to blah, it looks clawny :)

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Even flying in pairs, Mi-8 and Mi-24. Mi-35 and Mi-24 is one type of attack helicopter.
 

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Even flying in pairs, Mi-8 and Mi-24. Mi-35 and Mi-24 is one type of attack helicopter.
Go find a video with 2 different types in one pair (even in one squadron) not on Parade and then we will talk again.

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Go find a video with 2 different types in one pair (even in one squadron) not on Parade and then we will talk again.

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You would know how angry I am when I hear such stupidity. Himself go of the Narcomanic Republic, hold a AR and you know that the picture rarely coincides with reality. So when you, a purely civil, appreciate the video - I find it funny.
You think that's Mi-25 - I think this is Mi-35. It doesn't matter. More importantly, it was not shot down from the ground.
 
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You would know how angry I am when I hear such stupidity. Himself go of the Narcomanic Republic, hold a AR and you know that the picture rarely coincides with reality. So when you, a purely civil, appreciate the video - I find it funny.
You think that's Mi-25 - I think this is Mi-35. It doesn't matter. More importantly, it was not shot down from the ground.
You are a complete profane in aviation (and as our communication says, in the other mil cases as well).
You have spent 4 years in mil college for nothing and in service as well.
All you have learned there is how to drink, steal what is not fixed, do nothing, be angry, and be a slave for your superiors that use you as a free force labour.

So yeah, being angry is the only thing what you have in this life :)
Please continue, show must go on!

P.S.: Between your anger sessions please think about the following thing: Why RU MOD should lie about this? War is war, casualties are inevitable. They have not closed this fact of loss.
Do they afraid that foreign customers will dought in Mi-35M reliability?
No. This is the first technical issue crash if you are right. The first one for thousands of combat sortiers. A fucking high reliability in my book. Americans have lost over 50 rotocrafts in Iraq as non-combat issues and they are fine...

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You are a complete profane in aviation (and as our communication says, in the other mil cases as well).
You have spent 4 years in mil college for nothing and in service as well.
All you have learned there is how to drink, steal what is not fixed, do nothing, be angry, and be a slave for your superiors that use you as a free force labour.

So yeah, being angry is the only thing what you have in this life :)
Please continue, show must go on!

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Maybe I'm a layman in aviation, but the weapons specialist.o_O It doesn't matter, it is worth it on a fighter or a tank. But you have the memory like a goldfish. I have several times told you, I studied 5 years, a few years Later served in airborne and mechanized troops.
 

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Maybe I'm a layman in aviation, but the weapons specialist.o_O It doesn't matter, it is worth it on a fighter or a tank. But you have the memory like a goldfish. I have several times told you, I studied 5 years, a few years Later served in airborne and mechanized troops.
I have already said what "specialist" you are and what real skills you have :)
Mi-35M differs from Mi-24 not by non-retracable gear, but by different main and stearing rotors, 2-barrelled GSh-23LT 23mm cannon instead of YaKB-12.7 4-barelled gatling-type machine gun (or GSh-2-30 30mm fixed cannon on Mi-24P), completely different avionics and external optics/pilot augmentors/targetting turrets.
Can we see those differences on your video? No.

And of course why to lie is a good question (I've discussed about it in a previous post)... It simply makes no sense.
 
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FSB spec ops have destroyed another one ISIS gang in Dagestan:
Syrian and Russian Orthodox Churches have condemned Christians abuses:
 

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This guy (with PK) reminds me of Kurbashi from 9th Company (9 Рота):

 

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Visible short wings.................................
Good catch of yours!
I've missed this frame somehow...
However, I can admit my errors and live with it.
Congratulations!
 

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