Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

[pmaitra]

Spoiler: GRAPHIC, but not very bloody: Lots of dead ISIS ready to be converted to fertilizer

More pictures of ISIS killed by SAA and RuAF here (GRAPHIC, but not very bloody): https://www.almasdarnews.com/articl...ensive-syrian-army-supply-road-western-raqqa/

International Military Review – Syria, June 13, 2016

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Folks, let @Tactical Frog write the opinion from the other side. If everyone pounces on him, he might not even post.

 

[Tactical Frog]

The Islamic State terror organisation is being slowly destroyed and that is excellent news .. what say ? I am all happy with it. If Nusra and other jihadist forces can be eliminated the same way, that is for the best too. But there are other syrian rebel forces that I would like be included in some kind of negotiated peace agreement.

Distribution Of The Most Prominent Factions In Syria According To Their References
Creation date: 27/05/2016


In black: Salafi Jihadists
Islamic State – The Nusra Front – Jund al-Aqsa (Soldiers of al-Aqsa) – The Turkistan Islamic Party – The Yarmouk Martyrs Brigade –

In green: Free Syrian Army
The Sham Front – Fastaqim Kama Umirt (Be Upright as Ordered) – The Army of Mujahedeen – The Nour al-Din al-Zenki Movement – Jaysh al-Nasr (Army of Victory) – Jaysh al-Ezza (Army of Pride) – The Homs Corps – al-Rahman Corps – The Southern Front – The First Coastal Division

In red: Moderate Islamic
Jaysh al-Sham (Army of the Levant) – al-Sham Corps – The Sunni Army – Ahrar al-Sham Movement (Free People of the Levant) – Jaysh al-Islam (Army of Islam) – The Ajnad al-Sham Islamic Union (Soldiers of the Levant) – Ansar al-Sham Factions (Supporters of the Levant) – The The Islamic Muthanna Movement.

By Enab Baladi.

According to source:
Distribution of the most prominent factions in Syria according to their references.
#Enab_Baladi #Syria

Source: جريدة عنب بلدي enab baladi Facebook page.

Link: bit.ly/1XP50pp

 

[Tactical Frog]

Ideally non islamic ones ...if can be found. it is kind of ironic that Assad ( whose Bath party is authentically secular ) is forced to team with an islamic shia republic and with an islamic shia party ( Hezbollah) .

 

[gadeshi]

Russian and Syrian MODs visited Iran:

 

[gadeshi]

Vitaliy Churkin (Russian UN representative) fucks US for privating Russian/Iranian/Syrian success in Syria:

 

[Kshatriya87]

Vitaliy Churkin (Russian UN representative) fucks US for privating Russian/Iranian/Syrian success in Syria:

Didn't understand a word of that.

 

[gadeshi]

Didn't understand a word of that.

Churkin had accused US in presenting Syrian and Russian success in Syria as US ones.

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[pmaitra]

Some recent Tweets from Syria and periphery:

 

[pmaitra]

Some recent Tweets from Syria:

 

[pmaitra]

Russian soldier dies from wounds inflicted in Syria

Russian Sergeant Mikhail Shirokopoyas, who was severely wounded in Syria last month, lost his battle for life at a Moscow hospital, Russia’s Defense Ministry said in a statement. The junior sergeant came under shelling in Aleppo province in early May while assigned to the Russian Center for Reconciliation of Opposing Sides in Syria. He was provided with first aid at the site before being sent to a military hospital in Moscow for surgery. However, the“wound has proven to be incompatible with life,” and he died on June 7. He was posthumously bestowed with the Order of Courage and buried with military honors in his native Amur Region in Russia’s Far East on June 11. Shirokopoyas left behind a wife and 13-year old daughter.

Source: https://www.rt.com/news/line/

 

[pmaitra]

Some recent Tweets from Syria and vicinity:

Spoiler: Bloody

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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c3c_1466130714
Putin bombed US backed terrorists at the juncture of the Syrian, Jordanian and Iraqi border in reply to Kerry's 'impatient' statement.

Two days ago, Kerry indicated that US patience with Syria and its Russian and Iranian allies was wearing thin.

Well, it didn't take long for Putin to let it be known in no uncertain terms what he thinks of Kerry's patience. (Kerry has 212 more days as Secretary of State)

 

[Tactical Frog]

Some recent Tweets from Syria and vicinity:

Spoiler: Bloody

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Putin bombed US backed terrorists at the juncture of the Syrian, Jordanian and Iraqi border in reply to Kerry's 'impatient' statement.

The Americans sent a couple to F/A 18 to the rescue . This could have become a serious incident .

 

[The Last Stand]

Hope both the US and the USSR oops, Russia can cool their asses before US contractor/RUS personnel get killed and screw over the rest of the world behaving like scorned spouses.

 

[Kshatriya87]

The Americans sent a couple to F/A 18 to the rescue . This could have become a serious incident .

I like it, how the russians are openly defying the US.

 

[ezsasa]

Sure democracy is possible in Arabic countries . In some distant future when they get education level similar to Russia or France. Democracy is the best of systems ( I am a Churchill fan too ! )
I agree that I have been " fucking naive " about true democrats taking power in both Libya and Syria. It is all the fault of Tahrir square and Tunisia. There was little violence in both cases, so it was believed it would work everywhere like this.

All Arab countries are tribal in nature, democracy can never work in those areas. Frankly we have to thank their prophet for this,the guy subjugated many tribes into one religion. Otherwise the would would been dealing with many such ideologies. Also notice that immediately after he dies, Shias and Sunnis sects are born. No matter what without a authoritarian ruler in place, everyone of them tries to become one.

Saddam's Iraq had one of the highest literacy rates in that region, look at it now.

 

[Kshatriya87]

All Arab countries are tribal in nature, democracy can never work in those areas. Frankly we have to thank their prophet for this,the guy subjugated many tribes into one religion. Otherwise the would would been dealing with many such ideologies. Also notice that immediately after he dies, Shias and Sunnis sects are born. No matter what without a authoritarian ruler in place, everyone of them tries to become one.

Saddam's Iraq had one of the highest literacy rates in that region, look at it now.

I've seen Iraq myself. Saddam had constructed 8 lane highways in last century itself even if there was no need for such wide roads. Today, those roads are critical infrastructure. Unfortunately, the US used the same infra to attack Iraq.

As the Iraqis told me, the only and only problem during Saddam's rule was you couldn't speak against him or he made you and your family disappear permanently. The best thing in his rule was - total security. No terrorists, no jihadis, no daesh, no al qaeda etc.

 

[gadeshi]

Russian General Staff Commander Valeriy Gerasimov has fended John Kerry's "US patience in Syria has depleted" statement - USA is trying Russian Army patiense, which is not unlimited.
Raqqa and Aleppo will be the real answer:

 

[gadeshi]

The Americans sent a couple to F/A 18 to the rescue . This could have become a serious incident .

Yeah, yankies could be teared a shitty parts by Su-30SMs from the escort, but they have got fucking out in time without even approaching to Su-24M2s

 

[gadeshi]

Syrian forces advance against ISIS towarding Raqqa:

 

[rock127]

Can't help being a bit frustrated by seeing that Assad will stay in power after all the harm he and his clan has done to his country. But ... but obviously France was wrong from the start about the possibility of a democratic revolution . Obviously I was wrong too . Not sure til what point I can have been wrong (sigh).

US wanted to IMPOSE Democracy on everyone and it lead to civil war/chaos.

Now Vietnam was not enough that US started a new war in AFG, then US left them in chaos and it created Osama.This Terrorism started officially form that Afgan war.

You western guys are fucking naive.
There is no democracy possible in Arabian country at all. All of these fairy tales about democracy are for the fools only.
Western countries have ravaged Lybia (which was blossom country before Western invented civil war and intervention) and Syria for two goals. 1 - To remove states and borders on the riot of western desired gaspipe from Qatar to Turkey to wipe out Gazprom from EU market.
2 - To create chaos and breeding pool to grow jihadi crowds to infiltrate or constantly troll anti-globalistic countries: Russia, China, India, Iran, Kazakhstan.
That's all. No democracy, just dirty interests.

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Western countries have really miscalculated creating war in Middle East.These countries are best when they have their own rulers like Saddam,Gaddafi,Assad,Mubarak etc.

Sure democracy is possible in Arabic countries . In some distant future when they get education level similar to Russia or France. Democracy is the best of systems ( I am a Churchill fan too ! )
I agree that I have been " fucking naive " about true democrats taking power in both Libya and Syria. It is all the fault of Tahrir square and Tunisia. There was little violence in both cases, so it was believed it would work everywhere like this.

FORCING democracy means you are not Democratic!!! Same rules cant be applied everywhere. YOU need to understand the cultural/regional differences.First you were against Communism and now this.

Let Middle-East governed by their own people.Its because of US that this Syrian refugee crisis has rattled and divided EU.

US wanted to simply invade Syria but Russia tried to save it but you gave weapons to those Syrian rebels.US is still sitting much safer across Ocean but you guys are going to suffer.