Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

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Yes Yes Yes)))
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So, maybe you'll post some evidence?

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Obama is made the culprit for letting evil :shock: Putin and the devil Iranians to control what was American bastion until when Obama abandoned Iraq. Another :bs: out of severe stomach burn!!!

But this sums up the current hopelessness of western allies
“60 Minutes” asked Mr. Obama: Are you concerned about yielding leadership to Russia? Mr. Obama responded dismissively: Propping up a weak ally is not leadership. I’m leading the world on climate change.

Upon hearing that, anyone in any conflict anywhere who has put his trust in the United States should start packing his bags for Germany."


http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion...ssia-rules-Obama-watches/stories/201510240026
 

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No body knows why it took Russia so long to come to Assad's rescue. Is there a deal between supporters on both side to fuel the fire and than become spectator as well as suppliers of defense equipment to each side?

I believe that is exactly taking place but no one is going to confirm from either side.
 

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No body knows why it took Russia so long to come to Assad's rescue. Is there a deal between supporters on both side to fuel the fire and than become spectator as well as suppliers of defense equipment to each side?

I believe that is exactly taking place but no one is going to confirm from either side.
It was exactly the right moment chosen, when US has fucked up badly on Middle east, Obama has tould that US will do what they want with economical and national debt disaster on the background.
US has prepared to triumphous media victory on terrorism, brearhing media panic on ISIS...
But Putin has overtaken this situation exploiting american media preparations for Russias success and US failure.
And of course it has been done after the strong speach in the UN :)

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Apache is not a fire support helo, it is unarmored anti-tank platform which can be shot down by rifle fire. And US Army has lost few dosens of them this way in Irak and Afganistan - they have tried to hang over the wrong places...
So far, more old AH-1 Cobras have never hanged for attack and their losses were minimal.

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APache's primary mission, that it was designed for, may have been anti-tank. But, apart from Gulf War 1, pretty much all it's done has been could be described as fire support missions.

The Apache is most definitely armoured. It's designed to withstand hits from 23mm. Although clearly old (Mauser 98k???) rifles are its kryptonite.

Cobra's may have taken few losses recently. But, that's because they aren't used so much anymore. Pretty sure their only US user now is the US Marine Corp. Hundreds of them were shot down over Vietnam, which was one the reasons the Apache was made.
 

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APache's primary mission, that it was designed for, may have been anti-tank. But, apart from Gulf War 1, pretty much all it's done has been could be described as fire support missions.

The Apache is most definitely armoured. It's designed to withstand hits from 23mm. Although clearly old (Mauser 98k???) rifles are its kryptonite.

Cobra's may have taken few losses recently. But, that's because they aren't used so much anymore. Pretty sure their only US user now is the US Marine Corp. Hundreds of them were shot down over Vietnam, which was one the reasons the Apache was made.
The only Apaches armour is its pilots seats.
So they cannot withstand even pistols, 23mm will tear it apart.
It is designed to hover over the friendly pisitions and use its Hellfires from the safe range. In the case of an ambush it can rely on its speed only to try to flee.

So, when Apache pilots started to use them for fire support which it's not designed for, they stsrted to suffer losses.

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It was exactly the right moment chosen, when US has fucked up badly on Middle east, Obama has tould that US will do what they want with economical and national debt disaster on the background.
US has prepared to triumphous media victory on terrorism, brearhing media panic on ISIS...
But Putin has overtaken this situation exploiting american media preparations for Russias success and US failure.
And of course it has been done after the strong speach in the UN :)

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This conflict will not end till KSA with her GCC allies come to blow against Iran and her allies. The show goes on while the rest of the world becomes spectator.
 

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Russia And Iran Start Using SUICIDE Drones To Fight Off Assad’s Enemies


Russia and Iran have started launching suicide drones to fight off rebels trying to take out the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad.

These drones are designed to land and then explode near targets, The Washington Times reports.

News agency Syria Mubasher reported that six drones, which apparently came from a base in Russian-controlled Lattakia in western Syria, exploded near fighters from Ahrar al-Sham, an al-Qaida affiliate. This resulted in several dead and wounded.

An Ahrar al-Sham commander told the Smart News agency in Syria that the drones exploded like a booby trap. This took place by the city of Ma’ara al-Nuiman.

But some claimed that the drones came from Shiite areas, which are currently dominated by the Lebanese Hezbollah, a group in turn run by proxy from Iran. In late December 2014 the commander of Iran’s ground forces told media that its kamikaze drones had seen action in military drills. Development of suicide drones in Iran goes back at least to 2013. Foreign experts poked fun at the drones after reviewing footage from Iranian TV stations, but it appears the drones are functional enough to see some use.

Called the Raad by Iranian media, the drone is essentially a copy of Boeing’s ScanEagle and has limited utility against military targets, as defense systems can easily spot the surveillance drone strapped with explosives and take it out of the sky. The exception is economic targets and ground fighters, who may not have access to radar and defense systems.

Other regional powers are also developing suicide drone technology. In June, Israel Aerospace Industries announced that it had upgraded its suicide drones to sell to foreign buyers. The company did not provide the identities of the foreign buyers.

The strike on Ahrar al-Sham counts as another hit on a non-ISIS-related target, which supports the position of American officials, namely that Russia is focused on ensuring that U.S.-backed rebel groups don’t pose a threat to the Assad regime, instead of taking out ISIS.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/23/r...es-to-fight-off-assads-enemies/#ixzz3pUTMlQKJ
 

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The big rally
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If Assad had barrel bombed their houses,with their families inside them,be sure they wouldn't "rally" for Russia and Assad.
 

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They may sincerely believe that Assad and Putin - good. For example, @pmaitra it believes.
  • The majority of Syrians live in Assad controlled territory.
  • Many Syrians are leaving other parts of Syria and moving to Assad controlled areas.
  • Thousands of refugees were not running away from Syria when Assad had full control. They are running away now that ISIS and other "moderate" terrorists have taken control of parts of Syria.
 

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  • The majority of Syrians live in Assad controlled territory.
  • Many Syrians are leaving other parts of Syria and moving to Assad controlled areas.
  • Thousands of refugees were not running away from Syria when Assad had full control. They are running away now that ISIS and other "moderate" terrorists have taken control of parts of Syria.
Therefore, they flee to democratic Europe, and not in an authoritarian Russia?
 

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Therefore, they flee to democratic Europe, and not in an authoritarian Russia?
They are not fleeing to democratic Europe because Europe is democratic. They are fleeing to any country where they can get doles.

They refused to go to Finland. Why? Because Finland is a dictatorship? ))))))))))))
 

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They are not fleeing to democratic Europe because Europe is democratic. They are fleeing to any country where they can get doles.

They refused to go to Finland. Why? Because Finland is a dictatorship? ))))))))))))
@apple prompt?

It turns out to Europe fleeing Syrians lazy, whichof the IS makes the work ?
 

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They may sincerely believe that Assad and Putin - good. For example, @pmaitra it believes.
Well you cannot blame him since he is Indian,he will support Russia even if they support the worst dictators/murderers of the 21st century.

9 novembre entre 13h et 15h.
 

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Well you cannot blame him since he is Indian,he will support Russia even if they support the worst dictators/murderers of the 21st century.

9 novembre entre 13h et 15h.
Most Indians don't support the "worst dictators/murderers of the 21st century," such as the Saudis, Saakashvilii, or the chocolate seller. That privilege is left to the "democratic" west. o_O
 

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Most Indians don't support the "worst dictators/murderers of the 21st century," such as the Saudis, Saakashvilii, or the chocolate seller. That privilege is left to the "democratic" west. o_O
Read my comment,i said Indians will always support Russia (in its actions) even if (the Russians) supports the mass murderer of the 21st century.
I've never said you supported Assad... Or do you support him ?
It's sure that Porochenko or Saakashvilii are far worse than Assad.
 

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Most Indians don't support the "worst dictators/murderers of the 21st century," such as the Saudis, Saakashvilii, or the chocolate seller. That privilege is left to the "democratic" west. o_O
Saakashvili tyrant? To learn anything else)))
 

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