Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

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In Syria Spotted «Krasuha-4» Russian Mobile Electronic Warfare Systems
http://defence-blog.com/army/in-syr...ussian-mobile-electronic-warfare-systems.html
Question. Why?To fight against ISIS?
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If you haven't noticed, Russia has made only two airstrikes on ISIS actually, all other are aimed against Syria's friends of democratic opposition and moderate islamists. BBC's picture based on Russian MoD's daily reports, where Al-Qaeda, Non-IS Islamists and FSA are all painted green (rebels):



But that is going under a pockerface "We're bomin' ISIS" rhetoric.

"Krasuha-4" and S-400 (maybe) are there to cool the heads of " good terrorists' " patrons.
 

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But that is going under a pockerface "We're bomin' ISIS" rhetoric.

"Krasuha-4" and S-400 (maybe) are there to cool the heads of " good terrorists' " patrons.
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"Good terrorists" will not attack the base from the air.Through Saudi Arabia purchased a large number of Chinese MANPADS. High probability that the FSA will attack the base from the sea and from the land.
 

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"Good terrorists" will not attack the base from the air.Through Saudi Arabia purchased a large number of Chinese MANPADS. High probability that the FSA will attack the base from the sea and from the land.
I said " good terrorists' " patrons. That means "покровители хороших террористов". Deployment of SAM's and EW systems is aimed to prevent the things like these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2013_Rif_Dimashq_airstrike
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/23/israel-air-strikes-syria
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...pected-of-attacking-Syrian-missile-store.html

Improve your English.
 

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I said " good terrorists' " patrons. That means "покровители хороших террористов". Deployment of SAM's and EW systems is aimed to prevent the things like these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2013_Rif_Dimashq_airstrike
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/23/israel-air-strikes-syria
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...pected-of-attacking-Syrian-missile-store.html

Improve your English.
I understood. Syrian sky only for Russian aviation.
 

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http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cee6fcba-69bf-11e5-8171-ba1968cf791a.html#ixzz3nh7foBY8

Moscow scuppers US coalition plans for no-fly zone in Syria

Sam Jones, Defence and Security Editor
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A Russian military jet lands in Syria on October 1

Russia’s bombing of anti-regime rebels in Syria has been described as a disaster for the US-led coalition’s efforts to destroy Isis, the Islamist militant group, but the Kremlin’s real challenge to Washington is in the skies above the war-torn country.

Alongside a modest Latakia-based contingent of two dozen Su-24 Fencer and Su-25 Frogfoot jets — planes designed to strike land targets — Moscow has deployed assets which render the prospect of no-fly zones enforced by the US or its allies over Syria impossible to enact.

Just weeks ago, after months of diplomacy, officials were close to an agreement on enforcing aerial safe-zones to end the Assad regime’s bombing of civilians in northern and southern Syria, according to diplomats and military officials in the US-led coalition. The agreement was based on Jordanian and Turkish plans presented earlier this year.

Many officials believe an imminent move to ramp up coalition activity in Syria precipitated the Kremlin’s sudden intervention late last month.

“The ultimate reason all this is happening is because of the renewed focus on Syria and the need for some sort of political solution there — something which we thought we could achieve by enforcing no-fly zones, safe zones,” said one senior European diplomat.

But any hopes of military co-ordination with Russia to achieve this, even in the wake of its disruptive deployment, are swiftly being dashed.

Nato’s supreme military commander in Europe, US General Phillip Breedlove warned last week that the alliance was “worried about another A2/AD bubble being created in the eastern Mediterranean.” A2/AD stands for anti-access, area denial.

Gen Breedlove’s fears have been realised in the past days as Russia’s small deployment of four Su-30 “flanker” jets, which are at Latakia’s Bassel al-Assad air base — highly manoeuvreable aircraft designed to shoot down other aircraft — has been augmented with a far more powerful arsenal.

Russia’s ministry of defence announced on Friday the deployment of its navy cruiser the Moskva to Latakia. The Moskva is armed with a complement of 64 S-300 ship-to-air missiles, Russia’s most powerful anti-aircraft weapon.

Deployment of S-300s — or other similarly sophisticated systems, also known as triple-digit Sams — has long been one of the Pentagon’s biggest fears in the Middle East. The S-300 system, which has an operating range of 150km, is capable of striking down all but the most sophisticated stealth aircraft. It means most missions flown by Washington’s coalition allies — Jordan, for example, uses F-16 jets — are now highly vulnerable. Even the UK’s deployment of Tornados and Typhoons at the Royal Air Force’s base at Akrotiri, Cyprus, is threatened by the missiles.

“The Russian forces now in place make it very, very obvious that any kind of no-fly zone on the Libyan model imposed by the US and allies is now impossible, unless the coalition is actually willing to shoot down Russian aircraft,” says Justin Bronk, research analyst at the Royal United Services Institute.


“The Russians are not playing ball at deconfliction — they are just saying, ‘keep out of our way’. The coalition’s operations in Syria will be vastly more complex from a risk assessment point of view and from a mission-planning point of view.”

Even surveillance missions above Syria by US and coalition aircraft will be complicated. One Nato air force officer said the organisation expected to start seeing the kind of “cold war tactics” and brinkmanship Russia has recently been using in the Baltics. Pilots will be briefed to expect powerful Russian radar systems “lighting up” their aircraft in shows of strength, he said.

Preventing the creation of US-led coalition no-fly zones in Syria is important for Moscow’s influence over events in the country. With the Assad regime’s territorial grip looking fragile in recent months, the added imposition of a US-led coalition no-fly zone could have forced negotiations that would have led to a loss of Russia’s influence. Now any diplomatic or political process that does occur will do so on Moscow’s terms.

“Russia’s military actions are serving political ends of which there are several,” says Alex Kokcharov, Russia analyst at IHS Janes, the defence consultancy.

For Mr Putin, US and Nato “no-fly zones” have additional resonance too.

“Putin was deeply shaken by the overthrow of Gaddafi in Libya,” Mr Kokcharov notes. “There is something at a personal level that is motivating this.”

For Russia military planners, no-fly zones — seen in the West as a measure of humanitarian mercy — are often seen as tools of regime change.

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Yes. Just like were stated 4 days earlier.
However,Americans continue the bombing. Secret ban, only exacerbates the situation.Of course Obama is not Kennedy, but the Russian economy is not the economy of the USSR.
 

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However,Americans continue the bombing. Secret ban, only exacerbates the situation.Of course Obama is not Kennedy, but the Russian economy is not the economy of the USSR.
There is no relevance between those two subjects.
Russian economy is sanctions-resistant :) Only banking sector is under pressure, but it gives the Russian to lead for starting Sovereign Emission :)
As for military aspect, Americans bomb something in the other part of the country untill Adads army will undertake it from ISIS. Then american zone will be reduced.
 

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There is no relevance between those two subjects.
Russian economy is sanctions-resistant :) Only banking sector is under pressure, but it gives the Russian to lead for starting Sovereign Emission :)
As for military aspect, Americans bomb something in the other part of the country untill Adads army will undertake it from ISIS. Then american zone will be reduced.
It is so sanctions resistant that it is going to contract by 4% this year!!


Russia's Economy Minister Alexei Ulyukayev said on Saturday that his ministry forecast Russia's gross domestic product would fall by 3.9 percent in 2015 but rise by 0.7 percent in 2016, according to its latest forecasts.

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It is so sanctions resistant that it is going to contract by 4% this year!!


Russia's Economy Minister Alexei Ulyukayev said on Saturday that his ministry forecast Russia's gross domestic product would fall by 3.9 percent in 2015 but rise by 0.7 percent in 2016, according to its latest forecasts.

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Do not mislead economical growth according to exchange ratings and real production increase.
And 7% growth is more than 0% or recession in most EU countries.
 

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Do not mislead economical growth according to exchange ratings and real production increase.
And 7% growth is more than 0% or recession in most EU countries.
It it 0.7% and that is more of a forecast for next year and we will find out next year.

Not to forget 4% contraction is reported by Russian govt for this year. It can be even more given how Russia operates and hides information!! And btw, no point comparing to screwed up European economies here to appear how good Russian economy is. With the current oil prices, I would not be surprised if Russia contracts another year.
 

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It it 0.7% and that is more of a forecast for next year and we will find out next year.

Not to forget 4% contraction is reported by Russian govt for this year. It can be even more given how Russia operates and hides information!! And btw, no point comparing to screwed up European economies here to appear how good Russian economy is. With the current oil prices, I would not be surprised if Russia contracts another year.
Recession is caused by banking system difficulties. They have been tackled and the next year will be with growth.
However you should learn the differences between industrial and post-industrial (financial before production) economical lifestyles to know the sanctions impact.
 

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Recession is caused by banking system difficulties. They have been tackled and the next year will be with growth.
However you should learn the differences between industrial and post-industrial (financial before production) economical lifestyles to know the sanctions impact.
Live in your lala land that it is just financial mess.

A country whose 20% GDP roughly depends on oil exports to do well in near future.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/for-russia-oil-collapse-has-soviet-echoes-1441215966
 

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well.. Russia really concerned about NATO and Israeli fighter jets.

also pictures found Russia deployed Krasukha-4 EW system deployed in Syria

 

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SA-22/Pantsir S-1 Spotted



well.. Russia really concerned about NATO and Israeli fighter jets.

also pictures found Russia deployed Krasukha-4 EW system deployed in Syria

And note that we first see a container version of Pantsir-S here.
 

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Iranian troops prepare to aid Russia with Syrian ground assault, officials say

More Iranian troops have arrived in Syria for an upcoming ground operation to accompany Russian airstrikes, defense officials confirm to Fox News.

“It has always been understood in this building that the Russians would provide the air force, and the Iranians would provide the ground force in Syria,” one official said.

Army Col. Steve Warren told reporters, “We know the Iranians are a part of this. We've known that since day one.”

The officials speaking to Fox News could not disclose the size of this new Iranian force due to the sensitivity of the information.

These Iranian forces are under the command of Maj. Gen. Qasem Soleimani, the Quds Force commander in charge of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard’s international operations, which runs a network of proxy forces throughout the Middle East, including Syria, Iraq, Yemen, and Lebanon.

Fox News first reported a secret meeting between Soleimani and Russian President Vladimir Putin, which took place in late July. Part of the discussions between Soleimani and Putin was the future Russian build up in Syria, coordinated closely with Iran.

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