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Americans made a big mistake by supporting anybody and everybody against Assad.

Assad is the big bad boy but then fomenting an armed rebellion against him was not the way to go. this has opened the floodgates for extremists of all hues. It will take decades to unravel the mess created by the US President, who has proved to rather naive in International Diplomacy.
 

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Americans made a big mistake by supporting anybody and everybody against Assad.

Assad is the big bad boy but then fomenting an armed rebellion against him was not the way to go. this has opened the floodgates for extremists of all hues. It will take decades to unravel the mess created by the US President, who has proved to rather naive in International Diplomacy.
Look at it from the geopolitical point of view. If something works, then it makes sense to do it again.

The CIA funded the Islamic fundamentalists in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and then the USSR withdrew from Afghanistan. So, it was a success. So, from the US point of view, it made sense to them to support Islamic fundamentalists in Syria. With Afghanistan, the Islamic terrorists, after Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan, entered Kashmir in 1989. This turned Indian public opinion against the US. However, India was still a minnow then. This time around, refugees have flooded EU, which is already grappling under Greek default, and Russian sanctions. On top of that, many people are fearing many ISIS have entered Europe as refugees. So, public opinion in Europe is not as favourable towards the US as it was before the refugee crisis.

Regarding the so called moderate rebels, even they have been targeting Syrian Christians, since before the ISIS came into existence. At this point, the US will have a hard time getting support from Europe.
 

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Lol, Moderate and extremes are like a rain, if it rains and no one realises then its moderate, but if it floods then its not moderate, Seems that does apply in Syria.
With Russians entering in Syria, the "allies" have to be very specific who they target, they cannot target the Syrian govt units under the guise of hitting terrorists.
I would be personally be interested in Su-30 SM vs Rafale duel if there be..
It is pretty absurd to even use the term moderate years after a video emerged of a so called "moderate" rebel eating the liver out of the corpse of a Syrian soldier.
 

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Commentary: The two points in the second indented portion have important links.
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Has the US Intelligence Establishment Turned Against the Administration?

Shellback | Russia Insider



Based on my experience with it, I am not a big fan of the American intelligence establishment as I wrote here. I saw too much obsession with personalities, compartmentalization, confidence in mere techniques and a certain tendency to re-write to please superiors. (Not, by the way, that it is unique in the intel world in these respects; although the personality obsession does stand out.)

But I never said that I thought that it just made stuff up. And nor do I now.

Watching the catastrophes, incompetence and mendacity of the Obama era in which the fantasies of the neo cons have been joined to those of the humanitarian interventionists I have begun to suspect that these idiocies are being perpetrated without support of the intel establishment.

Here are a few small things I've noticed that made me suspect a small group at State Department and the White House are the authors and that the intel world is cut out of the loop.

Small items to be sure, and none conclusive. But maybe we have moved to the next stage in which the intel people actively object in public.

Intel people are supposed to do their work in secret and then retire and keep their mouths shut. The nature of the business is that you will sometimes be wrong, often ignored but you still keep quiet. You have signed pretty formidable silence undertakings. Having worked in and around the business, I can assure you that, to to be driven to the point of formally complaining (and risking your jobs, pensions and possible freedom) only happens after years of frustration.

Stay tuned. No doubt Russia's intervention in Syria, which is blowing the whole incoherent US policy apart, will bring more revelations. After all, no one wants to take the blame for catastrophe and failure. Especially when they're not responsible for the bad advice, airy projections and falsified information that got into the mess.
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Intelligence is gathering information about the reality on the ground. Actions are supposed to be based on that intelligence that reflects the truth. In case of the US, it appears intelligence is being doctored to suit and justify some pre-determined action, such as, but not limited to, the all too ubiquitous “Assad must go” chant.

A parallel can be drawn to the way the US military industrial complex works. In an ideal world, one has to study the requirement, and design a weapon system around it. In case of at least the F-35, it appears, and some may disagree, that they first came up with a weapon system, and are now defining the need and justification, such as, there shall be no need for dog-fight.

Marketing has quite a few concepts. One of them is to create a need for a particular product in the minds of the people, even if life can go by just fine without this product.
 
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US Fight Against ISIS Is a Big Charade
Eric Margolis alleges ISIS is a “covert western asset” and the US is not seriously fighting the terrorist group

Adam Dick | (Ron Paul Institute) | Russia Insider


“A rag-tag bunch of lightly armed crazy people”

This article originally appeared at the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity


Eric Margolis returned to the Scott Horton Show on Wednesday for another intriguing interview regarding international relations and war. In the interview, Margolis, a Ron Paul Institute Academic Board member and international affairs writer, lifted the lid on the ongoing fight of the United States and coalition members against the Islamic State (ISIS), referring to ISIS as a “covert western asset” and the US-supported fight against ISIS as a “big charade.”

Margolis explains:

But, look, I’ve covered a lot of wars. I’ve been a soldier myself. I look at this whole ISIS business and two things strike me. First of all, it’s been ludicrously exaggerated. It’s a ragtag bunch of lightly-armed crazy people, thugs who are stiffened by some of [former Iraq President Saddam Hussein’s] old soldiers. Secondly, I really believe that ISIS, the Islamic State, was created by the Saudis and is a secret, tacit ally of both the Saudis and the US. So, what’s been going on for the last couple of years, we’re pretending to fight — we’re the greatest power on earth, and we cannot knock out a bunch of teenagers with “burp guns?” We’ve staged battles with them, which is more theater than actual combat. We don’t want them to lose because they’re fighting [Syria] President Assad’s government, which we want to overthrow. And it’s a crazy situation. It is a big charade.
Margolis continues his examination of this “big charade” by discussing ISIS controlling for over a year the city of Mosul in Iraq. Says Margolis:

The Jordanian army could clear out Mosul in a couple of days. So could the Turkish police, let alone the mighty Turkish army — 500,000 tough soldiers. But, we don’t want to clear them out because they are helpful to us. And I think we are trying to get the Islamic State to go and fight Taliban in Afghanistan as well. They are a covert western asset. Otherwise, they would have knocked them out long ago.
The complete 25-minute interview focused on the ongoing violence in Syria and Iraq also includes Margolis’ assessment that new Russia military action in the area is “inevitable, perfectly predictable,” and “the result of stupid blundering” by the US government. It also, Margolis suggests, threatens to escalate the fighting in the region into a much larger war.

Listen to Margolis’ complete interview here.
 

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Airstrikes Are Just the Appetizer - Get Ready for a Massive Ground Invasion from Iran
“This is nothing short of a Middle Eastern coup, as Iran looks to displace Saudi Arabia as the regional power broker and as Russia looks to supplant the US as the superpower puppet master”

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Note to neocons: it's payback time for sicking Saddam on Iran 1980-88 (Iran-Iraq war)

This article originally appeared at Zerohedge.

On Thursday, in “Mid-East Coup: As Russia Pounds Militant Targets, Iran Readies Ground Invasions While Saudis Panic”, we attempted to cut through all of the Western and Russian media propaganda on the way to describing what Moscow’s involvement in Syria actually portends for the global balance of power. Here are a few excerpts that summarize what’s taking shape in the Middle East:

Putin looks to have viewed this as the ultimate geopolitical win-win. That is, Russia gets to i) expand its influence in the Middle East in defiance of Washington and its allies, a move that also helps to protect Russian energy interests and preserves the Mediterranean port at Tartus, and ii) support its allies in Tehran and Damascus thus preserving the counterbalance to the US-Saudi-Qatar alliance.

Meanwhile, Iran gets to enjoy the support of the Russian military juggernaut on the way to protecting the delicate regional nexus that is the source of Tehran’s Mid-East influence. It is absolutely critical for Iran to keep Assad in power, as the loss of Syria to the West would effectively cut the supply line between Iran and Hezbollah.

It would be difficult to overstate the significance of what appears to be going on here. This is nothing short of a Middle Eastern coup, as Iran looks to displace Saudi Arabia as the regional power broker and as Russia looks to supplant the US as the superpower puppet master.

In short, the Pentagon’s contention that Russia and Iran have formed a Mid-East “nexus” isn’t akin to the Bush administration’s hollow, largely bogus attempt to demonize America’s foreign policy critics in the eyes of the public by identifying an “axis of evil.” Rather, the Pentagon’s assessment was an attempt to come to grips with a very real effort on the part of Moscow and Tehran to tip the scales in the Mid-East away from Riyadh and Washington.

Solidifying the Assad regime in Syria serves to shore up Hezbollah and presents Tehran with an opportunity to assert itself in the name of combating terror. The latter point there is critical. The West has long contended that Iran is the world’s foremost state sponsor of terror, and the Pentagon has variously accused the Quds Force of orchestrating attacks on US soldiers in Iraq after cooperation between Washington and Tehran broke down in the wake of Bush’s “axis of evil” comment.

Indeed, Iran was accused of masterminding a plot to kill the Saudi ambassador at a Washington DC restaurant in 2011.

Now, the tables have turned. It is the US, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar who stand accused of sponsoring Sunni extremists and it is Iran, and specifically the Revolutionary Guard, that gets to play hero.

Of course this would be largely impossible without Moscow’s stamp of superpower approval. The optics around the P5+1 nuclear deal were making it difficult for Tehran to be too public in its efforts to bolster Assad. That doesn’t mean Tehran’s support for the regime in Syria hasn’t been well documented for years, it simply means that Iran needed to observe some semblance of caution, lest its role in Syria should end up torpedoing the nuclear negotiations. Now that Moscow is officially involved, that caution is no longer obligatory and Iran is now moving to support Russian airstrikes with an outright ground incursion (just as we’ve been saying for weeks). Here’s WSJ:

Iran is expanding its already sizable role in Syria’s multisided war in the wake of Russia’s airstrikes, despite the risk of antagonizing the U.S. and its Persian Gulf allies who want to push aside President Bashar al-Assad.

Politicians in the region close to Tehran as well as analysts who have been closely following its role in Syria say a decision has been made, in close coordination with the Russians and the Assad regime, to increase the number of fighters on the ground through Iran’s network of local and foreign proxies.

The support also could involve more Iranian commanders, military advisers and expert fighters usually assigned to these units, these people said.

Wiam Wahhab, a former Lebanese minister allied to Iran and Mr. Assad, stressed that Iran wouldn’t be dispatching troops in the conventional sense. Instead, they were likely to be officers and advisers from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, or IRGC, he said.

“I know there is a major battle upon us and everything needed for this battle will be made available,” said Mr. Wahhab, who has some members from his own political party fighting in Syria alongside the regime. “There is a plan to carry out offensive operations in more than one spot.”


Experts believe Iran has some 7,000 IRGC members and Iranian paramilitary volunteers operating in Syria already.

Separate from the regular army, the IRGC was founded in the aftermath of the 1979 revolution as an ideological “people’s army” reporting directly to the supreme leader, Iran’s top decision maker.

The more than 100,000-strong force controls a vast military, economic and security power structure in Iran and is in charge of proxies across the region. Its paramilitary organization, the Basij, was the lead force in the crackdown on pro-democracy demonstrators in 2009.

Since late 2012 Iran has played a lead role in organizing, training and funding local pro-regime militias in Syria, many of them members of Mr. Assad’s Alawite minority, a branch of Shiite Islam. Experts believe they number between 150,000 and 190,000—possibly more than what remains of Syria’s conventional army.


What’s more, some experts estimate 20,000 Shiite foreign fighters are on the ground, backed by both Shiite Iran and its main proxy in the region, the Lebanese Shiite militia Hezbollah.

About 5,000 of them are new arrivals from Iraq in July and August alone, said Phillip Smyth, a researcher at the University of Maryland. He said this figure was compiled through his own contacts with some of these fighters, flight data between Baghdad and Damascus as well as social media postings. “It looks like it was timed out to coincide with the Russian move,” Mr. Smyth said.

Yes, it certainly does “look like” that, and it wasn’t hard to see this coming. Here’s another excerpt from our recent analysis:

Back in June, the commander of Iran’s Quds Force, Qasem Soleimaini, visited a town north of Latakia on the frontlines of Syria’s protracted civil war. Following that visit, he promised that Tehran and Damascus were set to unveil a new strategy that would “surprise the world.”

Just a little over a month later, Soleimani - in violation of a UN travel ban - visited Russia and held meetings with The Kremlin.

Make no mistake, this is shaping up to be the most spectacular US foreign policy debacle since Vietnam - and we don’t think that’s an exaggeration.

The US, in conjunction with Saudi Arabia and Qatar, attempted to train and support Sunni extremists to overthrow the Assad regime. Some of those Sunni extremists ended up going crazy and declaring a Medeival caliphate putting the Pentagon and Langley in the hilarious position of being forced to classify al-Qaeda as “moderate.” The situation spun out of control leading to hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths and when Washington finally decided to try and find real “moderates” to help contain the Frankenstein monster the CIA had created in ISIS (there were of course numerous other CIA efforts to arm and train anti-Assad fighters, see below for the fate of the most “successful” of those groups), the effort ended up being a complete embarrassment that culminated with the admission that only “four or five” remained and just days after that admission, those “four or five” were car jacked by al-Qaeda in what was perhaps the most under-reported piece of foreign policy comedy in history.

Meanwhile, Iran sensed an epic opportunity to capitalize on Washington’s incompetence. Tehran then sent its most powerful general to Russia where a pitch was made to upend the Mid-East balance of power. The Kremlin loved the idea because after all, Moscow is stinging from Western economic sanctions and Vladimir Putin is keen on showing the West that, in the wake of the controversy surrounding the annexation of Crimea and the conflict in eastern Ukraine, Russia isn’t set to back down. Thanks to the fact that the US chose extremists as its weapon of choice in Syria, Russia gets to frame its involvement as a “war on terror” and thanks to Russia’s involvement, Iran gets to safely broadcast its military support for Assad just weeks after the nuclear deal was struck. Now, Russian airstrikes have debilitated the only group of CIA-backed fighters that had actually proven to be somewhat effective and Iran and Hezbollah are preparing a massive ground invasion under cover of Russian air support. Worse still, the entire on-the-ground effort is being coordinated by the Iranian general who is public enemy number one in Western intelligence circles and he’s effectively operating at the behest of Putin, the man that Western media paints as the most dangerous person on the planet.

As incompetent as the US has proven to be throughout the entire debacle, it’s still difficult to imagine that Washington, Riyadh, London, Doha, and Jerusalem are going to take this laying down and on that note, we close with our assessment from Thursday:

If Russia ends up bolstering Iran’s position in Syria (by expanding Hezbollah’s influence and capabilities) and if the Russian air force effectively takes control of Iraq thus allowing Iran to exert a greater influence over the government in Baghdad, the fragile balance of power that has existed in the region will be turned on its head and in the event this plays out, one should not expect Washington, Riyadh, Jerusalem, and London to simply go gentle into that good night.
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Commentary: It was already reported that several thousand Iranian troops have poured into Syria already.
 

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Washington May Whine, But Merkel Says Syria Solution Requires Russia
Also says refugee problem can only be fixed at the source

(Reuters) | Russia Insider


She’s not ready to “isolate” Russia when it comes to Syria

This report originally appeared at Reuters.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Thursday that it would be possible to end to the civil war in Syria only with the help of Russia, which this week launched airstrikes in the war-torn country.

Speaking of the refugee crisis, Merkel said it was necessary to tackle the issues causing people to flee their homes.

“That’s particularly true of Syria, where we have all known for years that there can only be a solution with Russia and not without Russia,” Merkel said at speech in eastern Germany to mark the upcoming 25th anniversary of German reunification.

The United States took a different stance, with the White House saying Russia’s military actions in Syria risked prolonging the conflict in Syria.

On Thursday, Russian warplanes, in a second day of strikes, bombed a camp run by rebels trained by the CIA, the group’s commander said.

(Reporting by Reuters TV; Writing by Michelle Martin; editing by Ralph Boulton)
 

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Russia's TV Zvezda Correspondent in Syria reports from the positions of Syrian Army
(English subtitles and footage of dead ISIS who entered from Turkey)
 

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cluster munitions
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Why are there flashes in the middle off the sky? I mean, should they not explode on hitting the ground? Or are these armour detecting munitions?
 

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Why are there flashes in the middle off the sky? I mean, should they not explode on hitting the ground? Or are these armour detecting munitions?
This proximity fuze. They did not contact.
 

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This proximity fuze. They did not contact.
Ok, so they are air-burst munitions, supposed to rain shrapnel on the terrorists on the ground. I see what you are saying.
 

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Very "high-precision weapons" :crazy:developedin the ' 50s.
 

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