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When your air force compromises on the electronics..
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Half the missiles probably didn't guide at all, lol

In stark comparison:
 

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The tenth flight prototype of the Su-57 fighter (PAK FA) - the T-50-11 aircraft (tail number "511"), modernized as a prototype of the Su-57 second stage aircraft according to the Megapolis R&D. Zhukovsky, 10/21/2022 (c) United Aircraft Corporation PJSC
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The aircraft is testing a set of on-board equipment with extended functionality, intelligent crew support and the possibility of using a wide range of new types of weapons. It is also possible to install the engine of the second stage on the aircraft.
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On the part of bmpd, we point out that, as previously reported, the development of a modernized version of the fifth generation Su-57 fighter, called the Su-57 of the second stage, is being carried out as part of the development work (R&D) of Megapolis. The state contract for the implementation of the Megapolis R&D for the creation of the Su-57 "second stage" was signed by the Russian Ministry of Defense and PJSC "Company" Sukhoi "on October 29, 2018. According to the schedule of its execution, the flight of the prototype was scheduled for mid-2022, and the completion of the R&D was scheduled for the end of 2024.

A source from the TASS agency in 2021 stated that “in the updated version of the fighter, as part of the Megapolis R&D, a completely updated cockpit with the most advanced avionics will be installed. In addition, the aircraft will be equipped with a power plant of the second stage. It is planned that from 2025 the Su-57 in a modernized form should begin to be mass-produced.

It was reported that the Sukhoi Design Bureau is conducting several separate R&D activities as part of the creation of the Su-57 "second stage", including the development of a panoramic aviation indicator, new multifunctional screens and a wide-angle red dot sight.
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Judging by the materials distributed by the UAC, the Su-57 prototype of the second stage was modified from the last (tenth) flight prototype of the Su-57 fighter (PAK FA) - the T-50-11 aircraft (tail number "511"), which made its first flight 6 August 2017. At the same time, the engines of the second stage "product 30" have not yet been installed on this board.
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Shift to the right”: PD-35 extra-high thrust aircraft engine is delayed
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“Shifting to the right”: the PD-35 super-high-thrust aircraft engine is delayed
PD-35 model at the International Engine Building Forum-2022. Source: vk.com

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Good and not so good news

The presence of its own aviation engine building is a necessary minimum for any sovereign power. As recent events show, it is aviation that seems to be the most sensitive industry to Russia's Western adversaries. Sanctions against air transportation were introduced almost in the first hours of the special operation. Now the country is gradually regaining the competencies in the civil aircraft industry that have been lost in recent decades.


The most “combat-ready” in every sense Perm aircraft engine is the PD-14. In terms of thrust, it loses almost three times to the PD-35. Source: www.ucrus.com

Let's start with the good news.

At the end of October, the Moscow International Engine Building Forum took place rather imperceptibly, at which the United Engine Building Corporation played the main violin. We presented a pre-production turbofan PD-14, probably the most long-awaited engine of recent years. The unit, like air, is needed by the domestic aviation industry, primarily for the motorization of passenger MS-21-310 Irkut. Western sanctions expectedly affected the pace of the development of the liner - on the one hand, the timing has shifted to the right, on the other hand, the state has allocated additional funding for the fastest import substitution.

In total, at least eighteen PD-14s have been built, four of which are already operating on a pair of MS-21-310s.

According to the deputy general director of the UEC, academician Alexander Inozemtsev, who is responsible for the work of Perm Motors, now the testing of the aircraft-engine linkage is in full swing, and experimental vehicles often take to the air twice a day. Starting next year, the third Irkut will join the flights.

How quickly it will be possible to put the PD-14 into mass production, time will tell, but one thing is clear for sure - this particular engine is a priority for the state. Not least because of the dual purpose of the aircraft engine. The forced modification of the PD-14M, in addition to the motorization of the "heavy" passenger MS-21-400, is intended for the transport Il-76MD and the promising Il-276.

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The first demonstrator of the youngest in the series - PD-8. Source: www.ucrus.com
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The successes of the younger brother, the PD-8, intended for the regional passenger SSJ-NEW, are much more modest. By the way, it would be time to abandon the anglicisms in the naming of domestic technology, even if it is designed for foreign buyers. Sukhoi Superjet New, which has been struggling with import substitution for more than one year, it's time to rename it. Maybe the campaign to replace imported units with domestic ones will go more fun.

The main task of the PD-8 is to replace the French PowerJet SaM146 engines in the engine nacelles of the Sukhoi passenger car. Not only is the main unit - the gas generator - manufactured in an unfriendly country, but they do it not in the best way. The rest of the equipment is made in Russia, but it is the French filling that determines the low operational reliability of the Superjet engine.

This alone should have prompted the idea of an early replacement of the motor with a domestic development, in fact, why the PD-8 project appeared. In May 2022, Rostec reported that bench tests of the technology demonstrator were completed. Vladimir Artyakov, First Deputy General Director of the corporation, said:

Completion of bench tests of the first prototype PD-8 is the most important stage in the development of a new Russian engine for civil aviation, primarily for the imported Superjet 100. Next, tests of individual engine components on autonomous installations are to be carried out. It is also planned to test the engine as part of the Il-76LL flying laboratory and a large complex of engineering and technical calculations. All this is included in the complex of works to confirm the characteristics of the pilot plant to the requirements of the certification basis of the PD-8 engine.”

At the end of October, information appeared about three demonstrators included in the experimental work. But for now, it's still too far off the series.

By the way, right now we need at least 44 aircraft engines annually. A certain positive inspires the widespread use in the PD-8 of units and solutions that are already “flying” on the older PD-14. The technical project of the motor was defended in 2020, and a gas generator was tested in October last year… Tentatively by 2025, we can expect a serial motor. If we talk about the military use of the PD-8, then it is very modest - so far only the remotorization of the Be-200 amphibians.

It should be noted that the new circumstances simply brought down a wave of work on the Perm engine builders, the main developers of the PD-14 family. Designers, for example, bring to mind, together with the Rybinsk "Saturn", the above-mentioned PD-8. And here are the obligations for the giant PD-35.

The most powerful in the country

Everything about this motor is big. Fan diameter 3 100 mm. For comparison: for a PD-8 baby, it is 1,220 mm, for a PD-14, it is 1,900 mm. The thrust of the giant PD-35 varies depending on the performance from 24 to 38 tons (some dream of 52 tons).

By the way, neither in the Soviet Union, nor in Russia, gas turbine aircraft engines with a thrust of 35 tons or more were not created at all. The legendary D-18T for Ruslan produced no more than 23.5 tons of thrust. That is, theoretically, a pair of the most powerful “thirty-fifths” with a thrust of forty tons will more than replace four outdated diesel engines on Ruslans, providing a much greater thrust-to-weight ratio.

Only here in Russia there are no clear plans for the recreation of winged heavyweights for the Aerospace Forces, not to mention the development of new generation machines. In many respects, this is precisely why the timing of the mass production of the PD-35 has been shifted to the right - this was stated in an interview with the Rise publication by the above-mentioned academician Alexander Inozemtsev. According to him, the material base of Perm engine builders does not fully meet the new, one might say, extreme demands of the time.

Initially, it was assumed that a test bench for the giant would be built in the Perm Territory in Novye Lyady on a site of 16.6 hectares. The volume of investments was estimated at almost 4 billion rubles, and the launch of the facility itself - by 2023. But those were plans two years ago. Now the tests, which have not yet begun, will be transferred to a site south of Perm in the town of Frola - it turned out to be cheaper.

Moreover, part of the funding from the PD-35 was redirected to other projects. Inozemtsev did not specify which ones specifically, but it is clear that for the development and testing of structures that are created in metal. PD-35, we recall, so far only as a model is presented at the Moscow forum of engine builders. The layout, by the way, is not life-size. The shift to the right in terms of timing is also due to the unclear fate of this heavy-duty motor. The Il-96-400 was considered the most likely carrier of the "thirty-fifth", but the decision to launch its development has not yet been made.

In addition, a 400-seat liner would need an engine boosted to 38 tons of thrust, which is still only on paper. But the heart of the PD-35 aircraft engine, its gas generator, was built last year in the format of a technology demonstrator. In October 2021, Alexander Inozemtsev commented on the event:

“Currently, the gas generator is being tested under standard atmosphere conditions in accordance with the approved program. Tests should confirm the fundamental performance of the gas generator design. In addition, based on their results, it will be possible to evaluate the parameters of the nodes defined by the terms of reference.”

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PD-35 model at the International Engine Building Forum-2022. The main highlight of the motor is the composite fan blades. Academician Alexander Inozemtsev, General Designer of UEC-Aviadvigatel JSC, Deputy Director General of UEC for Management of NPK Perm Motors, specified that the transition from a solid titanium blade to a hollow titanium blade made it possible to reduce the mass of the assembly by 30%, and the use of a composite blade will save even more weight. by 30%. Source: vk.com

The hope for the Russian-Chinese wide-body CR929, which should become serial only by the end of this decade, looks weak. With this machine, apparently, great difficulties. Denis Manturov, while still in his position as head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade, commented:

“The CR929 process is underway. But taking into account the new inputs, according to the restrictions that exist today in terms of cooperation, which was formed by Chinese partners with the involvement of Western manufacturers, time will have to be spent on restructuring approaches using only Russian and Chinese manufacturers.”
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So far, there is no news about the potential carrier of the PD-35, but it has long been known that the favorites for the Chinese when choosing engines are General Electric GEnx and Rolls-Royce Trent. Simply because these products are ready and certified.

The PD-35 is a promising family of aircraft engines that allows raising the domestic aviation industry to a qualitatively new level. First of all, the civil sector. Over the past decades, we have seen a gradual reduction in four-engine layouts - the Boeing-747 and Airbus-380 have been removed from production. No matter how charismatic they looked, they ate fuel immoderately. Especially in comparison with the twin-engine and the same wide-body Boeing-777 with huge General Electric GE90. The parameters are impressive - the diameter is 3.4 meters, the thrust is more than 52 tons. Actually, it is with this unit that the PD-35 should compete, or rather, its promising modifications of the appropriate power.

In the meantime, the plans include the basic PD-35, the demonstrator of which will appear in 2024, and its modifications - PD-38, PD-28 (for a possible successor to Mriya or its lightweight version), PD-24 (for a possible successor to Ruslan) ), as well as options for ground gas pumping stations.

Despite all the skepticism regarding the PD-35, it is worth noting that nowhere before in history have engine builders been developing a whole series of high-tech aircraft engines suitable for military and civilian use in such a short time.

By the way, creating a motor for a military aircraft / helicopter is much easier than for a passenger car. Therefore, now you will not envy the engineers and designers of the UEC.

 

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Su-34 bombers use FAB-500SHN bombs with a parachute braking system against the Armed Forces of Ukraine
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During the NMD, Russian Su-34 fighter-bombers use a large range of their aviation weapons against the Armed Forces of Ukraine. On November 2, the Russian Ministry of Defense presented another video to the public, which shows the combat work of the involved aircraft.

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It should be noted that the crews of the Su-34 are on duty around the clock at home airfields. In addition, in any weather conditions, day and night, they patrol the airspace, cover the actions of the Ground Forces of the RF Armed Forces, and suppress enemy air defense, artillery and fortified areas. One of the ASPs shown in the footage is the FAB-500SHN 500-kilogram unguided high-explosive assault bombs with a parachute braking system for dropping at low and extremely low altitudes (100-200 m).

It should be noted that with the increase in the effectiveness of air defense, the idea of delivering aerial bombs to the target at the above-mentioned heights received wide recognition throughout the world in the late 50s of the twentieth century. But the use of powerful air bombs at such heights is associated with the danger of hitting one's own aircraft with exploding fragments. So, in 1961, FAB-250Sh and FAB-1500ShA assault bombs appeared, and later, in 1969, GNPP Bazalt (now JSC NPO Bazalt, Moscow, part of Rostec) created the FAB-500Sh.

These munitions are designed to overcome air defense zones by aircraft and destroy military-industrial facilities, railway junctions, lightly armored vehicles, manpower and military field installations from a horizontal flight from the indicated heights. Air bombs are equipped with a built-in braking device and a fuse, which is an integral part of the design. Slowing down the fall of an aerial bomb allows the aircraft to leave the zone of dispersion of its fragments. Some time after the drop, the parachute fires back, after which the ammunition rushes to the ground with increasing speed. In 1976, the GNPP "Basalt" developed an improved model - the low-altitude FAB-500ShN, and in 1986 - an assault munition with a predictive leader FAB-500SHL.

 

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I still think this is a waste of time because they have Su-70s.

https://aviation21.ru/v-samare-proshli-stendovye-ispytaniya-dvigatelya-dlya-pak-da/

Bench tests of the PAK DA engine were held in Samara
31.10.2022

Prototypes of the “izdeliye RF” engine for a promising long-range aviation complex (PAK DA) have passed bench tests. This is reported by TASS with reference to a source in the military-industrial complex.

“Several prototypes of the engine have already passed part of the bench tests, now the tests are ongoing, according to their results, we can say that the engine confirms the parameters laid down in it,” the agency’s interlocutor said.

He added that a special stand for testing was prepared for the “izdeliye RF”. At UEC-Kuznetsov, preparations are underway for the production of the engine.

Alexey Sobolev, Deputy General Director - Managing Director of UEC-Kuznetsov, spoke about the assembly of the first engine for PAK DA in December 2020.

In 2021, the Russian Ministry of Defense was reported to have approved the final design of the PAK DA. Priority is given to reducing the visibility of the aircraft and weapons with a long range of destruction, and the construction of several prototypes of a promising aircraft is also underway.

PAK DA is designed according to the "flying wing" scheme with subsonic flight speed. The design of the new strategic missile carrier will make extensive use of technologies and materials that reduce the radar visibility of the aircraft. It will be capable of carrying existing and future long-range cruise missiles, high-precision bombs, hypersonic weapons, and will be equipped with modern means of communication and electronic warfare.
 

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Interesting trivia: Russians tried marketing the SU-27 to the British (!) soon after the fall of the wall. British test pilots were even allowed front seat rides.
Test flying the SU-27 at Farnborough
This again shows how naive the Russians were post USSR fall. They really thought west would accept them.
They would be accepted as equal partner by the west, but alas.
 

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This again shows how naive the Russians were post USSR fall. They really thought west would accept them.
They would be accepted as equal partner by the west, but alas.
One shudders to think of the long term Intel damage the west did to Russia because the doors of the Kremlin were thrown open to Americans. The relationships established back then are probably providing info to the west even today.
 

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This again shows how naive the Russians were post USSR fall. They really thought west would accept them.
They would be accepted as equal partner by the west, but alas.
They had no money at all and were led by Boris Yeltsin who was a complete west sellout. If not for Putin, he would have sold whole Russia to the west.
 

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excluding the Su-70 Russia now has a competition with Turkey to get a supersonic stealth UAV like the unmamned LTS variant before Turkey could get the kizilelm operational, its going to be tough. Its like the space race all over again lets see who will win.:clap2:
 

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PAK DA prototype was supposed to be rolled out this year.
assuming you're not usually trolling as usual but taking instead an interest in Russian projects i will give you the benefit of a doubt for all the latest news of the bomber

https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/12037515

Source: PAK DA demo will be ready by 2023

A prototype is currently being manufactured.

MOSCOW, August 2. / TASS /. A demonstration model of a promising long-range aviation complex (PAK DA) is expected to be assembled by 2023. This was reported to TASS by a source in the aircraft industry.

"At present, a prototype is being manufactured. It is assumed that the demonstration model will be ready by 2023," the source said.

TASS has no official confirmation of this information.


В РФ начались испытания катапультного кресла для перспективного бомбардировщика ПАК ДА (tass.ru)

In the Russian Federation, tests of an ejection seat for a promising bomber PAK DA began

Sergey Pozdnyakov, General Director of the Zvezda Research and Production Enterprise, explained that these are, among other things, tests for mechanical impact

MOSCOW, 3 October. /TASS/. An ejection seat for a promising long-range aviation complex (PAK DA) began to be tested. This was announced in an interview with TASS by the general director of the Zvezda Research and Production Enterprise Sergey Pozdnyakov.

"We are almost on schedule. Testing is just beginning," Pozdnyakov said in response to a question whether tests of the PAK DA seat have begun.
According to the general director of the enterprise, these will be climatic, resource tests, as well as tests for mechanical impact.

In July last year, Pozdnyakov told TASS that an ejection seat for a promising long-range aviation complex would be delivered to the developer, PJSC Tupolev (part of the UAC), in the next two years. At that time, a test chair was being created.


https://aviation21.ru/v-samare-proshli-stendovye-ispytaniya-dvigatelya-dlya-pak-da/

Bench tests of the PAK DA engine were held in Samara
31.10.2022

Prototypes of the “izdeliye RF” engine for a promising long-range aviation complex (PAK DA) have passed bench tests. This is reported by TASS with reference to a source in the military-industrial complex.

“Several prototypes of the engine have already passed part of the bench tests, now the tests are ongoing, according to their results, we can say that the engine confirms the parameters laid down in it,” the agency’s interlocutor said.

He added that a special stand for testing was prepared for the “izdeliye RF”. At UEC-Kuznetsov, preparations are underway for the production of the engine.

Alexey Sobolev, Deputy General Director - Managing Director of UEC-Kuznetsov, spoke about the assembly of the first engine for PAK DA in December 2020.

In 2021, the Russian Ministry of Defense was reported to have approved the final design of the PAK DA. Priority is given to reducing the visibility of the aircraft and weapons with a long range of destruction, and the construction of several prototypes of a promising aircraft is also underway.

PAK DA is designed according to the "flying wing" scheme with subsonic flight speed. The design of the new strategic missile carrier will make extensive use of technologies and materials that reduce the radar visibility of the aircraft.


2023 is the date of the model.
 

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