So they are going with the "Ukraine tricked Russia into a war", there will always be new excuses to come up with to avoid facing reality.
I dont want to make pro-russian users to hate pro-ukrianian users but set of events to follow.
May 2 2014 Odessa massacre.
I watched it literally on-live translation. It looked like a carefully planned murder.
1. Several thousand ultras arrived in Odessa allegedly for a football match.
2. On the same day, pro-Russian supporters campaigned on the square near the House of Trade Unions.
3. At the beginning of the day, I saw several people killed by unknown people on the street (eyewitnesses said that they were killed with a gun).
4. The police were literally inactive at this time.
5. Agitators were quickly found among the ultras, who shouted that these murders were the work of pro-Russian demonstrators.
6. For some time there was a cordon of local police between the ultras and pro-Russian demonstrators, but then it disappeared.
7. The pro-Russian demonstrators, being in the minority, preferred to retreat to the House of Trade Unions.
8. Ultras broke into the square and began to set fire to the tent city, which was deployed on the square by pro-Russian demonstrators.
9. Demonstrators, fleeing from an aggressive (and armed) crowd of ultras, locked themselves in the House of Professional Unions.
10. Ukrainian Nazis set fire to the doors and lower floors, throwing molotov cocktails at them. Then they stood and rejoiced at how dozens of people were burned alive. Those who tried to get out of the burning building were beaten, maimed and killed.
The web is full of photos and videos of evidence of the atrocities of the Ukrainian Nazis. You just need to make a request to Google. The official results are 48 dead and about 250 injured, although it was initially stated that the number of victims was over a hundred people, and some of the bodies were secretly removed, as they bore traces of torture and bullying that caused death.
Basically the ukrainians did the same kind of shit to the poles, Bandera was a polish jew that led the UPA and died like a rat by the KGB which we might witness Zelensky having a similiar fate.
There were stories of "freedom trains" with Azov style people on board headed to Crimea. Also, various demonstrations from the local Turkic population sprung up on cue I recall reading a sign that send freedom for Tatarstan. {The "pan-Turkic movement is the 2020s rehash of the arc of instability of the 1970s.} The powers behind the coup knew they could always escalate the situation to force Putin's hand. Demonstrations and attacks of the Russian naval base in Crimea would have been the next step. They wanted sanctions and they were going to get them one way or another.
There is a reason why there are so many Turkish users on defense hub that are so ass hurt about this war. This user seems to have Varzones old profile picture
and sequ(another turkish user) from sino defense forum is also asshurt about Russia. other reasons besides a decent turkic community in Crimea is that they have alot of military drone projects but they made deals with ukrainains to make the engines which i guess will be difficult to transfer to Turkey. Turks like Varzone wouldnt have given a shit about this war if it was just slavs killing slavs.
This guy was treated like some hero, than they decide to keep shelling Donetsk killing civilians after their attempt in Crimea failed and Russia said fuck it you will be a part of our territory and war was declared since the minsk agreements kept getting violated by ukraine and the west did nothing to stop it. You saw the map earlier of which political parties were pro-ukraine and pro-russian political parties in that map.
I dont support ukraine, because I am not a big fan of genocide to civilians and you would have known that earlier at how revolted I was when Azeris were torturing armenian civilians to death, I am assuming Azeris are sort of like turks as well. If Zelensky does not get his 2nd israel, than we will all experience 1st time in history whites fucking over jews and not the other way around .