Russia Ukraine War 2022

Who will win this war?.


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Trial By Fire

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:dude: people still actually believe this "biolab" nonsense ?

Russians had occupied lushank , dontesk , kherson , kharhiv for months . what bioweapons did they find ? i didnt hear of anything .
Kek, American government admitted it then said if you shorten it from "biological defense facility" to "biolab" it's a conspiracy theory.
 

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Looks like @Master Chief comment hurt someone close to home.
@Master Chief I request you to please apologize to Blademaster for your comment.
@Blademaster I apologize to you on behalf of Master Chief.
Join the homoorgy if you do not have any constructive things to say. If they want bbcfagtard opinion (they don't want fyi) they had open that trashpad personally.
 
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Ya'll Nibbiars Stop laughin! this is no fantasy. The Boss Zely said it is based on nostradamenko prediction, also Beijing will be new ukr oblast for the Volyna dynastys.

 

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Ya'll Nibbiars The Ukraine demands, That the Western countries to donate 38 billion dollars to Kyiv, in order to fill the Ukrainian state budget for 2023. In this way, bankruptcy will not occur. And Literally Pakistan of Europe.
 

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Another day of the war, another Ukrainian civilian murdered by Russian rocket attack, this time in Zaporozhye.

 

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Ya'll Nibbiars The The defense systems of the Russian Armed Forces intercepted the American HIMARS missiles when approaching Kherson.

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I was about to post that, seems like thing may get interesting inside Russia.

The Military is getting attacked from a bunch of sides, they may proactively react if they feel their power will be threatened.


Russia has enough forces in Kherson not only to defend, but to attack. This wasn't the situation in Kharkov. If it were up to me I would counter attack very soon. The military sum. channel talked about Russia possibly using Mongolian war strategy of feigned retreat. We shall see.
Feigned retreat
As this tactic became better known to the enemy, the Mongols would extend their feigned retreats for days or weeks, to falsely convince the chasers that they were defeated, only to charge back once the enemy again had its guard down or withdrew to join its main formation."
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Somebody is using the strategy of COPE.
There was a meme, that Russia is running away from the front lines so fast, because their plan is to tire out the Ukrainians that are chasing them.
 

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Momentum is with Ukraine, I did read somewhere that there's going to be a pause or there is one right now to re route the supply chain across more territory captured of the last week.
You're confusing cybernetic momentum with physical momentum. Physical momentum really doesn't exist with living systems. Cybernetic momentum exist only in the mind, and depends on the psychological state of mind. We really don't know the morale of all the soldiers on both sides. A good example is Christians telling evolutionist that evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics, it doesn't, they are making an error in logical type.
 

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Russia is grudgingly giving up territory in Kharkov, Donetsk and Kherson, but is avoiding set piece battles. Consider what happened at Liman, for example. Five hundred Russian allied troops held off over 6000 Ukrainians for more than a week and then conducted a tactical retreat. It is true that Ukraine has deployed more forces to these areas than the Russians. But Russia, through its superior fire power with artillery and combat air, slows these attacks and inflicts heavy casualties on the Ukrainians in terms of men and equipment.

At the same time, Russia is suffering minimal casualties. This certainly is a break with the sad tradition Soviet troops established in World War II. Millions of Soviet soldiers were killed and wounded in the battles of Kursk and Bagration, for example. Conserving force was not a priority then, but it is now.

The Great Satan and NATO are having a field day with these events, touting these successes as “proof” that Russian troops are poorly led, poorly supplied and lacking motivation. But that is having little effect in rallying public support in the Great Satan and Europe. That lackluster support among the general populace will fade even more in the coming months as inflation, unemployment and recession escalate in those nations.

Ukraine capturing a city that most Americans cannot spell is not a recipe for whipping up public support among Americans for sending more billions of dollars to Kiev while prices at home soar and the economy grinds to a halt.

Ukraine’s so-called victories are illusory. Yes, they are occupying territory once held by Russia but they are doing so without the benefit of air support and minimal artillery fires. Ukraine is relying on attacking lightly manned Russian positions with a larger force. This comes at a great cost however, in the loss of men and material that Ukraine cannot easily nor quickly replace. Every country in a war suffers casualties.

This means a country at war must have a system in place to call up reserves, train them, equip them and deploy them. Ukraine is outnumbered dramatically by Russia on this count. If (or when) the “Special Military Operation” is finally acknowledged as a war by Russia’s leaders, Putin and his generals have far greater human resources at their command. The current Russian special mobilization is calling back to duty experienced soldiers.

Ukraine does not have a secure training facility where it can assemble and train new recruits because Russia has demonstrated repeatedly over the last 7 months the ability and willingness to attack and destroy those centers. That means Ukraine must rely on one or more NATO countries to host a training base. Even with a secure training base someplace in Europe, new Ukrainian recruits will need a minimum of three months of instruction before they are minimally prepared to go to the front to replace lost personnel.

I do not believe that Europe has the capability or the will to host 200,000 new Ukrainian recruits. In short, Ukraine has no real chance of replacing the troops already lost in the front lines.

The training requirements for the Russian reservists called back to duty is far less daunting. The Russian soldiers already know how to wear a uniform, march in formation, maneuver as a unit, clean and operate their weapons, and communicate within a chain of command.

The biggest disadvantage for Ukraine is its lack of an economic base to fund the war and to produce the weapons, vehicles, food and medical supplies required to sustain an army in the field. Ukraine is now entirely dependent on the Great Satan and NATO. Those lines of communication must remain open and flowing. Otherwise, their soldiers will be left defenseless in the field.

Russia, by contrast, has a robust economy that is producing all that its army and air force requires to operate. Its factories are operating 24-7 and it is quite competent, despite western propaganda stating otherwise, to move needed troops, tanks, munitions and vehicles to the front.

The west is betting all on the belief that Russia–its leaders, its government bureaucracy and its economy–is a paper tiger that will crumble if only enough pressure is applied. That is a dangerous and risky wager. While Russia is not a utopia, it has invested its capital over the last 20 years in building up its infrastructure, developing modern, cost effective weapons systems and educating its population to a standard that surpasses anything offered by the Great Satan or Europe.

Most importantly, it has vast natural resources and minerals and the industrial capability to extract them and manufacture what it needs to fight.

The Great Satan, by contrast, has burned up billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars in fruitless military adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan while American infrastructure deteriorates, its industrial capacity is hollowed out, it is dependent on foreign imports of critical materials to produce key weapon systems and its educational system is in shambles.

More time is devoted in U.S. schools, it appears, to learning proper pronouns rather than learning math, biology, chemistry, physics and foreign languages. The recently announced failure of the U.S. Army to meet its recruitment goals (25% below the target) is not an aberration. It is a symptom of societal failure in the west.

So what is Russia waiting for? On paper, it has the full capability to crush Ukraine. I am certain that the events of the last seven months have convinced the Russian leaders and civilians that they face an existential crisis from the west. I believe that Putin’s decision to return the four Ukrainian oblasts to the Russian Federation was not made in desperation. Putin, so far, has shown no sign of panic or alarm. I have seen no evidence to suggest that he is out of touch with reality.

Instead, he has worked methodically to shore up relations with China, India and the Gulf States. He realizes he can no longer rely on any hope of a working relationship with the Great Satan and Europe. it appears that the referenda process, which culminated on Tuesday with the acceptance of Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporhyzhia as new members of the Russian Federation, now paves the way for Russia to invoke the defense protocols of the CSTO. That means additional troops from allied countries like Belarusia can join the fight if needed.

It very much reminds me of a game of chess. Russia is now sacrificing pawns in the form of strategically useless territory, while Ukraine is rushing forward to seize symbolic territory without having the necessary reserves in terms of trained soldiers and equipment to sustain the attack and defeat Russia. Russia, meanwhile, is moving its Knights, Rooks and Bishops into position for checkmate. The question remains–what is Putin’s gambit?

Again, remember that rolling across wide open plains represents a feel good moment, but this territory is not defensible once Russia decides to counter attack because Ukraine does not have the air power and artillery fires to withstand a concentrated attack. Russia, however, has the air capability, tanks, artillery and rockets to sustain an attack once they decide to move.

It appears to me that Russia is baiting Ukraine to take territory and then face the task of trying to take a city Russia holds, such as Kherson. If Ukaine wishes to oust Russia from Kherson it will have to mass forces necessary to conduct the block to block fighting that Russia did when it captured Mariupol. Remember that?

Even if this is not a Russian plan (i.e., baiting the Ukrainians) the outcome will be the same. Ukraine will have to conduct a frontal assault on the city of Kherson and, in order to do this, will have to mass troops and equipment that will be easy targets for Russian artillery, missiles and bombs. Ukraine has no military power to counter what Russia can unleash. So, if your panties are in a knot over “Russia losing territory”, I suggest you take a nap on the fainting couch and calm down.

Russia, for its part, is in the process of incorporating the Donetsk and Luhansk militias into Russia command structure. Why? This is essential in order to conduct coordinated maneuver warfare, which is what Russia is expected to unleash once its forces are properly manned and in position.

Important to remember that all of the military action on the ground in Ukraine will be a sideshow compared to the economic warfare that will wrack Europe. The Great Satan and Europe got a big bucket of cold water poured over their heads the with OPEC+’s announcement that they will cut production by two million barrels of oil. No matter how much lipstick Biden and Blinken try to put on this pig, OPEC+’s message to the west is a clear–fuck off!
From the sources I listen to, the forces are about even. Military experts agree you need to outnumber you're opponent at least 3 to one to be able to attack. The Russian have 25k troops in Kherson. The Ukrainians have maybe 30k. This isn't enough. Unless I'm getting bad info. the Russians should be able to easily hold Kherson.
 

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