Russia Ukraine War 2022

Who will win this war?.


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asaffronladoftherisingsun

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OK dude.. then go enlist in Wagner group.. Whether you like it or not, US is still the one true full spectrum global power dominating the military, economic and financial realms, although it's relative power has weakened in the past 20 years.. And whether you like it or not, India has to deal with the US, and interact in a way, that India's risw is not threatened. That's GOI's primary responsibility..
For the last 2500 years that were Asians on the top and after next 100 years that will be Asians again. You fail to realize amreekunt rise is merely a transient phenomenon and the decline has already set it.


Every thing is the GoI responsibility enh? What about the sheep? We tell you the responsibility of the sheep is to never get cucked.

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Many of these purchases were made in the 2000s and the 1990s, and how major a war between China and india will be if it breaks out, is quite unkown. In all of the conflicts between China and India, neither side has ever used their airforce. It’s just going to be salami slicing from here on out. Pakistan and india directly share a flat border, so them tanks will likely be used

In this time period, China and India were actually getting closer. They even did a naval drill together in 2007. It wasn’t until Chinese aggression in the later 2010s (2017 Doklam, then 2020 Galwan) which really offset relations between both the countries, hence their was prolly a lack of complaints.
Stop giving BS justification for Russian support to PRC.
Continuing on analogy. Ukraine sold T-80s to Pakistan in 1996 while Russia is selling equipment to PRC as late 2021. BTY Nearly 70% of T-80 components were produced outside of Ukraine (mainly in Russia).
S-400, Su-30, Su-35, etc. are more threat to us that some T-80 that Ukraine sold to Pakistan.
What you are doing is you have a fixed notion for cause and now you are finding justification to support your notions.
 

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For the last 2500 years that were Asians on the top and after next 100 years that will be Asians again. You fail to realize amreekunt rise is merely a transient phenomenon and the decline has already set it.


Every thing is the GoI responsibility enh? What about the sheep? We tell you the responsibility of the sheep is to never get cucked.

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Hold on to your champagne.. Credit Suise is not a systemic risk to the US financial system, the way the Sub prime crisis was.. Fall of Lehmann Brothers just triggered the domino.. The relative economic weight of Asia will continue to rise for the next few decades.. But, a fast paced economic rise of India, is not something that is written in stone.. It has to be nurtured.. Just like how China pursued a policy of Maintaining a low profile for 30 years since the 70s, India needs to make sure not to get into acute geopolitical conflict with any major power.. be it US or China..
 

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Meanwhile the chinese import ic from the japs.

So what?
Selling China Dual purpose ICs is not the same as Russia selling China fighters and S-400s..
Anyway, the anti American crowd tend to say so what when Russia sells cutting edge arms to China, but go all "Maji Satakli"/ Can't trust America (As if India ever trusted America) mode, when US sells Pakistan weapons..

Anyway, a major weapons exporter like Russia or America sells its weapons to as many parties as possible.. Whether it's sold to Pakistan or China, it shouldn't be a big deal..

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Hold on to your champagne.. Credit Suise is not a systemic risk to the US financial system, the way the Sub prime crisis was.. Fall of Lehmann Brothers just triggered the domino.. The relative economic weight of Asia will continue to rise for the next few decades.. But, a fast paced economic rise of India, is not something that is written in stone.. It has to be nurtured.. Just like how China pursued a policy of Maintaining a low profile for 30 years since the 70s, India needs to make sure not to get into acute geopolitical conflict with any major power.. be it US or China..
Wrong.

Composite Index of the national capability. We are on the right track. Asia in next 100 years as world leaders through brute force of population numbers with moderately good and rising economic military prosperity. At this time surely brIcs overtake gay7 as the principle economic bloc, even if per capita income of brics will only be 1/3rd of the g7.

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Lot more reasons to be neutral in the conflicts that do not matter to us.
 

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Many of these purchases were made in the 2000s and the 1990s, and how major a war between China and india will be if it breaks out, is quite unkown. In all of the conflicts between China and India, neither side has ever used their airforce. It’s just going to be salami slicing from here on out. Pakistan and india directly share a flat border, so them tanks will likely be used

In this time period, China and India were actually getting closer. They even did a naval drill together in 2007. It wasn’t until Chinese aggression in the later 2010s (2017 Doklam, then 2020 Galwan) which really offset relations between both the countries, hence their was prolly a lack of complaints.
S-400 was transferred to China after Doklam.. I like the Russia specific mental gymnastics you perform..
Anyway, I have no problems whether Russia sells weapons to China, or US sells weapons to Pakistan.. That is what major weapons exporters do.. And US hasn't taken any theka of guaranteeing India's security, and neither has Russia..
 

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Selling China Dual purpose ICs is not the same as Russia selling China fighters and S-400s..
Anyway, the anti American crowd tend to say so what when Russia sells cutting edge arms to China, but go all "Maji Satakli"/ Can't trust America (As if India ever trusted America) mode, when US sells Pakistan weapons..

Anyway, a major weapons exporter like Russia or America sells its weapons to as many parties as possible.. Whether it's sold to Pakistan or China, it shouldn't be a big deal..

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That is the amreekunt fault to push the russia into chinese sphere.

If the japs so wanted then they could cut off this supply and ccpfags won't be able to manufacture even a flip phone. As if the Ics tech are not used in weapon system by reverse engineering?


Again how many amreekunt companies has sandp removed for investments in Xinjiang. Volkswagen, Bmw,m and s, nike , uniqlo,pvh, etc?

We do not and have never armed the amreekunt enemy. So your equivalence in all of its totality is erroneous.
 

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Wrong.

Composite Index of the national capability. We are on the right track. Asia in next 100 years as world leaders through brute force of population numbers with moderately good and rising economic military prosperity. At this time surely brIcs overtake gay7 as the principle economic bloc, even if per capita income of brics will only be 1/3rd of the g7.

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Lot more reasons to be neutral in the conflicts that do not matter to us.
I have my doubts about this CINC.. How does it accommodate China's lack of self sufficiency in Energy, food, and its geographic and naval vulnerabilities ? India is on the right track.. And you are right, India needs to stay neutral in the Ukraine war, and continue to import oil and coal from Russia..
 

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S-400 was transferred to China after Doklam.. I like the Russia specific mental gymnastics you perform..
Anyway, I have no problems whether Russia sells weapons to China, or US sells weapons to Pakistan.. That is what major weapons exporters do.. And US hasn't taken any theka of guaranteeing India's security, and neither has Russia..
You conviniently ignored this part. The issue is not just weapon selling.

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They fermented a coup, post which they made a point to separate orthodox church, involved people to re write Ukraine history.
A lot of people say West caused the coup. This may or may not be true. I don't know.
But 2010-2014 was the time where in lot of countries their were protest against corruption.
Even in India their was a missive protest against incumbent Congress.

One can also say 2014 protest were genuine against a corrupt regime. Just because 2014 regime was a Russian vassal doesn't mean it was coup by West.

Viktor Yanukovych was a corrupt Putin's stooge who was set in the office to further Putin's agenda.
 

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We do not and have never armed the amreekunt enemy. So your equivalence in all of its totality is erroneous.
So.. Russia arms China, its America's fault.. Russia has no agency of its own ?
Anyway, India is not a major weapons exporter.. Also, US Pakistan relationship as Exporter - Importer is 60 years old, and much older than Indo-US defense relationship. Pakistan is also designated as a major non NATO ally by US Congress ( a status they have not removed even during the peak of Afghan insurgency" ).. So, why Should India act "You hurt me re baba".. Was the India -US defense relationship predicated on the US cutting off its relations with Pakistan ?
US ne kya India ke security ka theka leke rakha hain ..? INDIA is non aligned remember ..
 

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