Russia Ukraine War 2022

Who will win this war?.


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Blademaster

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But they don't recognize the territorial integrity of Syria when it comes to Golan Heights or West Bank. They are some of the world's biggest hypocrites. They regularly violate sovereign territory on a regular basis with Lebanon, Syria, even Jordan. And they want to do the same with Iran.

And they support Azerbaijan when it comes to violating the territorial integrity of Armenia.
 
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What you are looking at are 288 nuclear warheads, each with a yield of 475 kilotons. All packed in one submarine. USA has 14 of these meaning around 8 or 9 of these are deployed at sea at any given time. How long do you think it will take them to "aim at India"? And this is not counting their ground launched component.
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Which is why I hate the fact that our government has stopped increasing range of our ground based ICBM.
There are not 8 or 9 deployed at sea at any time. Most is around 5. For starters there are not enough warheads to equip more than 5 subs with 288 warheads each. And do not forget the number 3 rule. To consistently maintain a warship at sea at any given time, you need 3 of that warship. One at sea, one being refitting and undergoing training, and one undergoing maintenance and downtime. So if 14 subs, divide that by 3 and you end up 4 and since there are two more subs, you can make it into 5 subs operating at sea at any given time.
 
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IMO it turned out to be quite boring, just more hot gas from both sides. Neither official "annexation" by Russia or Ukrainian "fast track application" to NATO changes anything on the ground. US hasn't announced any escalatory weapon transfer either, only some lame visa sanctions etc.
Ummm... Russia is now bound by the act of annexation to defend those places. In fact, even if Putin is ousted tomorrow, the new regime too will have to defend any aggression made toward those 4 annexed places. So effectively Ukraine got trimmed and its link to sea route now permanently limited to Odessa only.

Now, no one with an iota of sanity remaining with them would poke the bear more. But then sanity seems to be in short supply in west since 2014!
 

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Novorussia is Russia again. Now to some retards, it means:



In other words, if these US lapdogs are to be taken seriously, Russia will end up ruling the entire European continent, plus Great Britain and Ireland.

Fortunately, we all know these are not serious people; Ukraine will be conquered entirely if its neocon government does not surrender, Britain couldn’t defeat the rag-tag gang of the IRA in Northern Ireland much less the Russians.

The EU had no problem with the annexation of Serbian territory, and Boris Johnson is a ticket-taking bozo who couldn’t keep his job despite being elected with a massive majority.

Remember, this is the same media that tells us Kiev is winning a war against Russia, which of course is why Zelensky is desperately attempting to speed up its application to NATO even though the Great Satan has zero intention of committing any of its troops to the NATO-Russian war. Because, obviously, running screaming for help is what people who are winning do, right?

Now, read Putin’s actual words. It’s not fully translated yet, I will post the full translated speech when it's available:



It’s refreshing to observe that Vladimir Putin sees and calls out the inversion. It’s clear that he understands its significance too. People can fold, spindle, and mutilate the truth all they like, but eventually the truth leaks out. The current rulers of the Neo-West are Satanists.

The Great Satan did create a precedent with its unnecessary use of atomic weapons. And whether Neo-Western hegemony is smashed or it collapses under the weight of its own internal contradictions, it will come to an end sooner or later.

NATO cannot defeat Russia anymore than Germany could defeat the USA in WWII. And if the NATO-Russian war escalates into WWIII, it is the Sino-Russian alliance that will be the winners.

The problem is that just as Hitler believed he could bluster and intimidate the Allies into surrender after a series of successful bluffs, the Neocons believe they can mediacate and magic-word their way to victory over Russia, China, Iran, India, Brazil, and the rest of the world on the basis of their past successes.

The fruits of past success produce the seeds of future failure.
What past successes?

Except for WW2 where did the West actually won any war against a near peer adversary?

The US went against North Korea and Vietnam, and despite wrecking havoc on those lands with their indiscriminate use of force, they lost badly in both instances. We all know how they beat Iraq by collective use of force.

Those tactics wont work against Russia, which has way too much WMD to be ever be truly threatened, or China, which has way too much modern weapon system to create enough deterrence for any kind of direct intervention, or India, which does not only have a modern armed force but a true professional one with high degree of training.

There's a reason why NaaTO can't put boots on ground in Ukraine. They know rhe consequence can be devastating.
 

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some users opinions on NATO response forces.

The lowlife in the US is really pushing this point. "if Russia uses a nuke in Ukraine , that counts as an attack on Nato."
Both parties reiterated it now. Because the radiation will travel to nato borders.

How much soldiers could Nato bring to the fight if they were to enter Ukraine in the west for a conventional attack ?
40.000 troops.

As that is give or take what they can call upon on their NRF (NATO Response Force)
Their vehicles are 60 percent operable.
Spare parts and vehicles are on backorder for at least a year or two.

Personnel is sub-standard.
Not meeting physical demands, not enough active servicemen where only 45 to 50 percent of vacancy's filled.
Not trained enough.

Munition stocks are what they use on training exercises on an year.
So they will run out in about 48-72 hours in any direct engagement.

Logistical capacity of NATO is almost non-existent.
they all hire almost solely civilian contractors.

Get this as bonus, the last winter training NATO did in Poland, the Polish Troops had to vacate all their barracks so the NATO troops could stay in there.
As they basically did not had winter gear and where about to freeze their troops asses off in standard winter conditions.

Personally i can confirm that, since 2006 i had to buy my own winter gear to prevent frostbite on exercises.
It is pathetic really.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars The Its not about taking sides, but when the ecosystem media wants you to believe that Russia taking over a fifth of its neighbors territory is somehow a loss to Russia, And one wonders what all incredible things have been forced down our throats in the name of truth in last 75 years.
 

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