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Lukas CRZ

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Mariupol is the Stalingrad of the 21st century? Asozstal can be a turning point in this war as in Stalingrad?


Does Russia achieve its first goal in Ukraine?

Good morning friends and friends. As you know, on May 16, the surrender of the Ukrainian troops entrenched in the Azovstal plant in Mariupol began.

Policemen, mercenaries, border guards and soldiers belonging to the Azov Battalion stayed there.

this last group. The Azov Battalion is an elite force of the Ukrainian army, linked to extreme right-wing, white supremacist and neo-Nazi movements. It is common for its members to have tattoos or symbols linked to the glorification of Nazism.

The Azov Battalion, planted a strong resistance for the city of Mariupol from the beginning of the conflict. In recent weeks they have chosen to take refuge in the labyrinthine compound of Azovstal where they resisted as long as they could. Without weapons, without food or medical supplies and completely abandoned by kyiv, they chose to surrender. Despite the fact that this decision had been made some time ago, the Ukrainian command categorically forbade any act of surrender, and according to communications captured by the Russians: "they had orders to shoot anyone who wanted to lay down their arms in the back".

On May 16, preparations for surrender began. First they started with the sick and wounded. Groups of fighters followed. Thus escorted by Russian soldiers they were transferred in buses.

This reminds me of the battle for Stalingrad, where the German army clashed with the Russian army. A battle that lasted two hundred days and resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths.
A battle in which the Germans were surrounded and cornered, until they decided to capitulate.
In this battle the German sixth army was destroyed, a unit that was in charge of the General and then Nazi Marshal: Von Paulus, who received the express order from Hitler not to surrender and commit suicide, which he disobeyed.

Something similar happened with the Azov Battalion.
They were surrounded at Mariupol, and driven to Azovstal, where they were given the opportunity to surrender, but were forbidden by the order from kyiv.

A month ago, Russian forces had captured the Azov Battalion headquarters in Mariupol. Today they captured their last stronghold.

The Azov Battalion, denounced by Russia for committing crimes against the civilian population of Donbass, no longer exists today.

Is this the end of the Azov Battalion?

His stronghold in the city of Mariupol no longer exists. Its name, inspired by the Sea of Azov, no longer makes sense. They no longer have a place to defend, only their extremist ideology remains.

Does this news mean that Russia has fulfilled its first objective?

For those who do not know, the objectives of the Russian special military operation in Ukraine are: to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine, as well as to protect the people of Donbass.

So: can we say that the goal of denazification is accomplished?

As in Staligrad, where the Nazi Sixth Army was annihilated, the Azov Battalion suffered the same fate. And if Stalingrad meant a turning point in the Second World War, we can say that Mariupol is too.

But there are still several right-wing groups in Ukraine and many soldiers faithful to those ideals. In addition to that there are also the European mercenaries: Croats, Poles, Estonians, etc., who glorify Nazism.

Without a doubt, we are facing the first great victory over neo-Nazism in Ukraine and in Europe. And with a resounding YES, we can affirm that it is the end of the Azov Battalion, although kyiv denies it.
Although the West sells this defeat as an evacuation, although kyiv says that it was a planned withdrawal.

Azov is dead and was buried in the labyrinths of Azovstal. And the moral blow that this means for kyiv is profound.

In command Ukrainian has received a direct blow to the jaw.

And guess what?

What lies ahead in Severodonetsk and Lysichansk is likely to bring kyiv to its knees.
 

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Their was a discussion couple of days ago why Rubble is strong against the sanctions.
The guy explains why

Wasn't there plan to sink Ruble and make sure there is bank run in Russia? The plan has failed miserably. Keep posting 100 of documentaries/videos/news article from Gora Sahibs, fact remains that their plan has failed miserably.
They shot an sanction arrow towards Russia somehow it got converted into boomerang mid-air and hit their own asses. :pound:
People are being forced to choose between heating and food. Babies not getting milk. Instead of helping their own citizens they are being forced to spend that money on Ukraine. Sanctioners are themselves in "ajit's liquid oxygen" situation. :rofl:
 

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Cleaning your parent's cats litter box for an allowance does not qualify a person as employed.
How long before you'll need someone to clean up after you? Dentures still in place or need some rework old man?
Looking forward to your old age home life? Hope you have good healthcare boomer.
 

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How long before you'll need someone to clean up after you? Dentures still in place or need some rework old man?
Looking forward to your old age home life? Hope you have good healthcare boomer.
I have to admit, you nailed most Americans with that comment, but truthfully you missed me by miles. You should visit Mercola's or Gundry's website, or read their books. I just gave you a gift, but I don't think you know it.
 

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You are getting too worked up for an Indian living in US. May be a wrong place to call it home. Don't let the door hit ya.
Try to shove me out, you wanker. Don't run out of copium. And after all, weren't the native americans there first? So why don't you show yourself the door before you ask someone else to leave due to your abnormal excess gassation of bovine matter.
 

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Do you need to be reported as a troubled immigrant not happy to be in the US? Wonder what you said for your visa interview: "Oh, I wanna be there sooo much." F*off. There are million like you waiting in line to be here.
Ooooh training to be a gestapo agent? You like being a butt sniffer snitch, don't ya?
 

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You really want to find out? All this 2 cent bravado may not be useful then. Just fall in line and be a thankful immigrant. Door's open for way out.
As he said before, show yourself the door first because technically, you're an immigrant there as well and by your fucked up logic, the USA should belong to the Amerindians only.
 

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You really want to find out? All this 2 cent bravado may not be useful then. Just fall in line and be a thankful immigrant. Door's open for way out.
Tahts why I don't visit this thread its a tan graph , from infinite to infinite . Any way good morning to you
And no iam not coming to usa or any other place
 

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Tahts why I don't visit this thread its a tan graph , from infinite to infinite . Any way good morning to you
And no iam not coming to usa or any other place
You are most welcome to US. I believe it to be nation of immigrants who are thankful and proud to be here. I bet you don't want immigrants in India that don't value that privilege.
 

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