Russia Ukraine War 2022

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Hari Sud

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America should close the Chapter on Ukraine War

War in Ukraine is almost over. Other than the Western media proclaiming victory, no victory could be credited to either Russians or Ukrainians. Those $100 billion in military aid by the West, is a full waste. Other than testing their arms in real battle conditions, nothing else has been achieved. Following points come to mind as the world affairs unfold now:

1. Russian military lost their face as it became known that they are poorly organized and badly lead force. Their losses and their tactics to fight were questionable from the day one when they began to loose a whole military convoy advancing towards Kiev. Later they scored victories and captured land to link to Crimean to mainland Russia and did not vacate under huge pressure from Western supplied Ukraine. Their naval losses in Black Sea were avoidable but poorly defended ships became victim to missiles fired from hundreds of miles away.

2. Ukraine lost everything. Only in the imagination of western media they were scoring victories. Their losses of 200,000 young men is too heavy a price to be paid. They should learn to live with their losses. Whatever they lost is a Russian speaking area, which anyway would have been hard to govern in the long run. They should change Zelensky and get new leadership to end the war. They have put up the best and nothing better can be done. Their obsession to join NATO is worthless. That is what started the war. Giving up that obsession will end the war.

3. Real danger is that those $100 billion in military aid, some still sitting around will begin to appear in places where you do not wish to see. Black Market in small arms will prevail. If not sanctioned by the government in power, others getting ready to make quick buck will operate. Some sophisticated arms are already in Russian hands, captured during the battle. Other nations like China would like to grab some which they cannot have otherwise. This is the greatest post war danger.

4. America helped to initiate this war and they will have to fund reconstruction at rough cost of $100 billion.

What did, the West and more specifically America gain out of this war. The answer is nothing. They lost a lot of prestige and also lost trust of the Western Europe.

America will be a lesser nation in next few years than it was 1950. As a sole nuclear power at that time and a huge prestige to run the world affairs, America was the only power to look up to. Well by 1990, some trust and power was lost as Vietnam & Middle East wars and their desire to grab Oil resources did not materialize. They began encouraging China to counter Russia but it recoiled on them by 2015. Yes, Chinese built themselves with $2 Trillion in Foreign Direct Investment, but began to confront America in the East. That was a grave American mistake. It is hard to correct it now. As a result America today is half the power both economically and militarily than it was in 1950. To some extent the Ukraine war played a big role in America’s power decline.

Now, time has come to close the chapter on Ukraine and begin the process of rebuilding America.
 

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America should close the Chapter on Ukraine War

War in Ukraine is almost over. Other than the Western media proclaiming victory, no victory could be credited to either Russians or Ukrainians. Those $100 billion in military aid by the West, is a full waste. Other than testing their arms in real battle conditions, nothing else has been achieved. Following points come to mind as the world affairs unfold now:

1. Russian military lost their face as it became known that they are poorly organized and badly lead force. Their losses and their tactics to fight were questionable from the day one when they began to loose a whole military convoy advancing towards Kiev. Later they scored victories and captured land to link to Crimean to mainland Russia and did not vacate under huge pressure from Western supplied Ukraine. Their naval losses in Black Sea were avoidable but poorly defended ships became victim to missiles fired from hundreds of miles away.

2. Ukraine lost everything. Only in the imagination of western media they were scoring victories. Their losses of 200,000 young men is too heavy a price to be paid. They should learn to live with their losses. Whatever they lost is a Russian speaking area, which anyway would have been hard to govern in the long run. They should change Zelensky and get new leadership to end the war. They have put up the best and nothing better can be done. Their obsession to join NATO is worthless. That is what started the war. Giving up that obsession will end the war.

3. Real danger is that those $100 billion in military aid, some still sitting around will begin to appear in places where you do not wish to see. Black Market in small arms will prevail. If not sanctioned by the government in power, others getting ready to make quick buck will operate. Some sophisticated arms are already in Russian hands, captured during the battle. Other nations like China would like to grab some which they cannot have otherwise. This is the greatest post war danger.

4. America helped to initiate this war and they will have to fund reconstruction at rough cost of $100 billion.

What did, the West and more specifically America gain out of this war. The answer is nothing. They lost a lot of prestige and also lost trust of the Western Europe.

America will be a lesser nation in next few years than it was 1950. As a sole nuclear power at that time and a huge prestige to run the world affairs, America was the only power to look up to. Well by 1990, some trust and power was lost as Vietnam & Middle East wars and their desire to grab Oil resources did not materialize. They began encouraging China to counter Russia but it recoiled on them by 2015. Yes, Chinese built themselves with $2 Trillion in Foreign Direct Investment, but began to confront America in the East. That was a grave American mistake. It is hard to correct it now. As a result America today is half the power both economically and militarily than it was in 1950. To some extent the Ukraine war played a big role in America’s power decline.

Now, time has come to close the chapter on Ukraine and begin the process of rebuilding America.
I don't see any signs of the fighting ending.
It is no secret that I am a supporter of tougher military measures. I support visits by employees to military registration and enlistment offices in fitness centers for mobilization. Because it’s just rudeness when someone fights or engages in civilian volunteering, while others sit in cafes/restaurants, swim in pools and exercise on exercise machines. At the beginning of the war there was some kind of unity of the people, but now everyone has gotten used to it. All. I’m even sitting and writing during an air raid, although at the beginning of the war they strictly adhered to the rules.
Some people scoop up dirt in the trenches, while others catch half-naked women in a jacuzzi in the Carpathians. The entire economy must work for the war.
 

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I don't see any signs of the fighting ending.
It is no secret that I am a supporter of tougher military measures. I support visits by employees to military registration and enlistment offices in fitness centers for mobilization. Because it’s just rudeness when someone fights or engages in civilian volunteering, while others sit in cafes/restaurants, swim in pools and exercise on exercise machines. At the beginning of the war there was some kind of unity of the people, but now everyone has gotten used to it. All. I’m even sitting and writing during an air raid, although at the beginning of the war they strictly adhered to the rules.
Some people scoop up dirt in the trenches, while others catch half-naked women in a jacuzzi in the Carpathians. The entire economy must work for the war.
‘You have quite positive attitude. I want to ask kins of 200,000 dead Ukrainians. Maybe they hold a different view.
 

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‘You have quite positive attitude. I want to ask kins of 200,000 dead Ukrainians. Maybe they hold a different view.
Ask. They don't want to think that their deaths are an empty phrase.

Russia may have a lot of tanks, but there is definitely a shortage of light vehicles.
 

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