Russia Ukraine War 2022

Who will win this war?.


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DivineHeretic

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They would be lucky if they hold bakhmut in the coming weeks the way Ukraine is flooding that area.
Ukraine has been husbanding men and material for a spring/summer counteroffensive ever since the recapture of Kherson last year. By our estimates Ukraine should have amassed atleast 180K-250K men and 500+ AFVs but we see no evidence of the deployment of the same across the theatre. On the Russian side it should be a similar number of men and around 1500-2000 AFVs.

Russia and Ukraine are now in a game of nerves, waiting for the other side to commit to their offensive (and hopefully tying down the enemy spearheads with second line forces) which would enable thier own forces to mount an offensive without the fear of unkwnown powerful enermy battlegroups.

This would explain the meatgrinder that is Bakhmut. Russians want to capture it to open up the battlefield for their spring offensive and/or to tie down Ukrainian reserves in the area. Ukraine has been hoping to get Russia to keep their as much of their military tied up with this town while Ukraine amasses and prepares to counterattack either along the east or, more likely the south.
 

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I personally think the Nazi thing is just a rhetoric. Ukrainians are either nazi, satanic, gay or lesbian depending on the day of the week for Russians :troll:
 

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I personally think the Nazi thing is just a rhetoric. Ukrainians are either nazi, satanic, gay or lesbian depending on the day of the week for Russians :troll:
nazis in ukraine is open knowledge, with legions of western and non western tv footage confirming it.
What is real rhetoric is that Ukraine is a democracy and that its success determines the success of freedom globally.
 

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nazis in ukraine is open knowledge, with legions of western and non western tv footage confirming it.
What is real rhetoric is that Ukraine is a democracy and that its success determines the success of freedom globally.
yeah but Nazi elements are present on both sides. Rusich/Wagner for Russians, then there is Azov/Kraken for Ukraine
 

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we see far, far more nazi insignia and paraphrenelia from ukrainian side than the russian one and that is undeniable.
Then morally speaking, are we okay with it as long as Ukraine has more Nazi paraphilia and Russia less? Should we only pursue punishment for the Ukrainians and not Russians

That's why I think the whole "kill Nazis" thing is a scam from Russians. They don't actually care or they would have done what the Germans did to their KSK company
 

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Then morally speaking, are we okay with it as long as Ukraine has more Nazi paraphilia and Russia less? Should we only pursue punishment for the Ukrainians and not Russians
yes. the more nazi side is always the enemy of coloured people.
Duh.
especially when the more nazi side has sided with our arch nemesis pakistan in the UN consistently for the last 30 years and the less Nazi side has been our top ally at the UN in the same period.
 

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Winning the actual war is a lost case for Ukraine and Nato. Russia is not pulling back. No force can push back Russia.
Only advantage is info war for west. Putin is a demon we have been told. What is the worst vampire or something.
 

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Winning the actual war is a lost case for Ukraine and Nato. Russia is not pulling back. No force can push back Russia.
Only advantage is info war for west. Putin is a demon we have been told. What is the worst vampire or something.
According to the west, Putin has dementia, he has brain cancer, blood cancer, thyroid cancer, alzheimers, etc.
And still the man is kicking around and meeting foreign dignitaries and holding together a thought better than the Bidet...err Biden.

So the conclusion is simple, Putin is the first immortal, the emperor of mankind, the father, god and guardian of humanity. For only such a man can overcome all these terminal illnesses and conduct a war while giving speeches for hours.
All hail Putin, the god of mankind
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The only people who truly deserve a nuclear bomb detonating above their heads are the criminals of Washington DC. As a result of decisions made here, hundreds of millions have perished all over the world, and most of them innocent people.
Washington DC deserves to be wiped off the map of the earth and should be used as a reminder to politicians that they should not pretend to be Gods.
As for Zelensky and Ukraine. Zelensky is an unimportant clown. Operations of Ukrainian forces are done from the level of Washington DC. Zelensky puts up a facade for all the world to make the offensive look Ukranian in nature and inception.
Russia and Putin on the other hand - biting more than they can chew. And mind you I do not mean to say they are incapable of countering or defeating Ukraine/forces of NATO on the battlefield. However, the tools that the Russians are using are ineffective.
If Russians do in-fact desire to win this offensive from this point on
a) A massive bombing of civilian population should begin to decimate the moral of the general populace. Furthermore, potential combatants can be somewhat wiped off.
b) Russia should stop attacking "critical infrastructure" like electric grid, and start attacking "non-critical" infrastructure like airports, bridges, military establishments, government offices. Shelters like stadiums, schools, colleges should be decimated. Granted, these are crimes against humanity. But then again, one should battle with the intention of winning it, not with the intention of being seen as the 'fair aggressor'.
c) Mine Black Sea entrance.
d) Openly hang all saboteurs.
e) Scorch earth, if not scorch, salt the land. Seal off all sources of Ukraine.

The problem is VV Putin or some short-sighted people like him, still sees Ukraine as a "Nazi regime only" however, for a regime to survive this long, there should be some if not a majority support for it. Thereby, it is a "Nazi country" and a Nazi country should be dealt with appropriately.
BTW: What's wrong with Dmitry? He can deal with NATO more effectively than Putin. Medvedev cut off NATO from Georgia within a month or so, using Abkhazia as a good excuse. Too bad, Putin waited 8 years.
He should have struck Ukraine on 2014.
It's remarkable how similar the thought processes of these countries align with India Pakistan.

Ukraine is Pakistan. We all know they would not hesitate to bomb all over India and kill everyone if they could- humanity and international opinion etc be damned. Russia is India, in the sense that the powers that be think that its only the leaders and politicians who hate Indians while the general public is just like us; despite every sign telling us that's not the case. So the Indian (Russian in the allegory) will never go for total brutal kill and will fight with one hand tied.

Not to mention Ukraine is also a fake country propped up by the west, a county that creates its own fake history to disassociate itself from its own forefathers and gets used as a condom by western countries. Also lives on foreign aid, with delusions of martial race nazi thought process and grandeur. Truly European Pakistan without nukes.

Russia has to get this in their heads- Ukraine is in total war mode and wouldve killed each and every Russian if they could. And the west would've encouraged them and applauded them only. Either Russia also goes on full war mode like WW2 firebombings or this is not going to end well for them. They've been hitting critical infrastructure since 1 year now. Kya ukhaad Liya? Pyaar and Jung main sab jaayaz hai, especially against Pakistan (err....Ukraine).
 

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Another RuSSian unit pleading to Putin. Blocking regiments, extortion of soldiers, suicide attacks - some truly incredible realities of the criminal syndicate posing as a "second army in the world" :rofl:

 

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Another RuSSian unit pleading to Putin. Blocking regiments, extortion of soldiers, suicide attacks - some truly incredible realities of the criminal syndicate posing as a "second army in the world" :rofl:

ah yes, estonian propaganda dude is so reliable, afterall he is being supported by the largest criminal syndicate on the planet.
 

GaudaNaresh

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btw, i am pleasantly surprised that so many here get warhammer 40K reference. i thought you had to be pushing 40 to get any WH40K references....
 

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