Russia Ukraine War 2022

[vampyrbladez]

 

[bhramos]

 

[bhramos]

 

[Sanglamorre]

It isn't so easy. Humans will survive. And the cradle of civilization will rise. again and again.

All i want is a few in London.

 

[Jimih]

Wailing for the 100 odd Leopards and Abrams to turn the tide of war.
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First Tanks, after that Jets and after that Nukes.

'Kid in a candy shop' !!

 

[The Shrike]

and then?

Hehe reminds me of Paki genrail (or somebody) who said he wished he could transform himself into a nuclear missile and launch himself into India. Guys need to go slow on the charas.

 

[shashankk]

WTF. is it true ?

 

[shashankk]

WTF. is it true ?

Looks like a fake news and original source is down and not reachable.

 

[mokoman]

Looks like a fake news and original source is down and not reachable.

crash is legit , doesnt say Putin but it usually carries VIPs

Russian Presidential Mi-8 helicopter crashes in Moscow - AeroTime

An Mil Mi-8 helicopter from Russia’s presidential fleet has been heavily damaged upon crash-landing in Moscow, reports suggest

www.aerotime.aero

Вертолет Ми-8 зацепил лопастями землю при посадке во "Внуково"

Вертолет Ми-8 совершил жесткую посадку во "Внуково", есть пострадавшие, сообщили "Интерфаксу" в экстренных службах.

www.interfax.ru

 

[Jimih]

crash is legit , doesnt say Putin but it usually carries VIPs

10 days ago Ukraine's Interior minister's chopper crash and now this.

 

[Love Charger]

after that, a mega tsunami sweeps across the world wiping out every coastal and medos followed by a radioactive rain to wipe out the remaining humanity.....
Then we start as-----------
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Dance macabre is a beautiful symphony actually ..
Absolutely honey to ears , I hear it on repeat at night

 

[Love Charger]

John Strauss spring waltz is my second favorite .
Then comes the Beethoven 7 and 8th symphony
Oh encore , these works are beautiful
Splendid and sublime .

 

[Love Charger]

If anybody here wants to feel a sense of absolute contentment and elation .
Then may I suggest , he should listen to Beethoven symphony no 9 .
Oh I urge you all, reading this, guests and users alike to listen it once before you die .
You shall not regret .

 

[Flash12]

Provide the date and title of the document confirming Poland's cooperation with the Third Reich!
Are these photos supposed to be a collaboration? Meeting of Piłsudski with Goebbels? A photo from some international military event? There is an international company there, French, English, Germans, Poles, and probably Hungarians as well.

What invasion are you talking about? The war of 1919-1920 began with the Bolshevik attack on Vilnius in January 1919

What torture are you talking about? There was no torture. In some camps there was malnutrition, poor conditions, overcrowding and disease. For example, in 1919, about 1,500 prisoners of war (including about 500 Bolshevik prisoners) died of the epidemic in the Brest camp. Several people from the Polish medical staff caring for the camp, including the camp's chief physician, also died there at that time.

What packt are you talking about? Include the date and name of the document. You mean "Polish-German Declaration on Non-Violence of January 26, 1934"? If so, the pact concerned only non-violence in bilateral relations between Poland and Germany. Just between us, how about the "Non-aggression pact between Poland and the USSR" - an international treaty concluded in Moscow on July 25, 1932? Broken by Soviet Russia on September 17, 1939. Germany at least took care of the formalities and terminated the pact of 1934 before their attack.

Poland did not invade Czechoslovakia with Hitler. Poland invaded Czechoslovakia without agreement with Hitler. The aim was not to destroy Czechoslovakia, but to occupy a strategic industrial and communication area inhabited in large part, perhaps in the majority, by ethnic Poles. I'm not saying it was good because it wasn't

When you say that Poles fought on Hitler's side, who do you mean? Poles, citizens of the Third Reich? Then I inform you that no one asked their opinion when they were drafted into the army. And they were not facing 15 years in prison for refusal, but the death penalty. And if you mean Poles, Polish citizens, there were none. There were no Polish volunteers. There were no Polish units in the service of the German army. Unlike General Vlasov's Russian Liberation Army and Kaminsky's Russian People's Liberation Army

We have the right to erect and tear down monuments on our territory. We do not destroy cemeteries, unlike your current allies, the Belarusians, who recently destroyed several Polish military cemeteries on their territory.

Man! A little humility! Before you start writing about something you know nothing about, do some research

"Provide the date and title of the document confirming Poland's cooperation with the Third Reich!
Are these photos supposed to be a collaboration? Meeting of Piłsudski with Goebbels? A photo from some international military event? There is an international company there, French, English, Germans, Poles, and probably Hungarians as well."

- Poland was the first of all European states to sign a non-aggression pact with Nazi Germany.
The strength of the allied relations between Poland and Germany is evidenced by the following fact. In March 1935, Jozef Pilsudski, the founder of the bourgeois Polish state, died. Hermann Goering, then chairman of the Reichstag, flew to Krakow for the farewell ceremony for the late Pilsudski. In addition, Hitler held a symbolic funeral for Pilsudski in Berlin. A coffin covered with a Polish flag was placed in the Cathedral of St. Hedwig, and the ruling elite of Nazi Germany, headed by the Fuhrer Hitler, was placed on the benches of the cathedral.

Isn't it very similar to treating a "neutral" or "hostile" leader? To whom else did Hitler give such honors?

In general, the Polish authorities were very fond of meeting with their German counterparts.

Joseph Goebbels with flowers while visiting Warsaw

Goebbels has lunch with the deputies of the Polish Sejm

Friendly visit of the Foreign Minister of the Fascist Reich, adviser to Adolf Hitler Foreign Policy Officer, SS Standartenführer Joachim von Ribbentrop to Poland.

Friendly visit of the Italian fascist Gian Galeazzo Ciano to Poland. February 1939.

"We are talking about the essence of the official Polish-German non-aggression pact concluded on January 26, 1934. This annex can safely be called the Hitler-Pilsudski Pact. It is clear that the Poles now vehemently deny the very existence of this secret pact, and any mention of it is called “Kremlin propaganda”. The text of this document has not yet been found, however, there are a great many references to it. Moreover, the information came from a variety of sources, not related to each other. "

Hitler and Polish Foreign Minister Beck

Hermann Göring in Poland

Goering and Polish President Moscicki hunting in Belovezhskaya Pushcha

Goering loved hunting and Polish friends entertained him

On September 1, 1939, the Wehrmacht crosses the Polish border - this is how the Second World War begins. The Second Rzeczpospolita created by Piłsudski will cease to exist. But Hitler did not forget about the deceased friend.
When the Germans occupied Krakow in 1939, where the grave of the leader Piłsudski was, the guard of honor was put up there first of all.
(There is a photo of a German soldier at Pilsudski's grave in Krakow, but for some reason it is not displayed. )

"What invasion are you talking about? The war of 1919-1920 began with the Bolshevik attack on Vilnius in January 1919"
- I said about how did they end up in Minsk and Kyiv?
And small detail. What did the Polish troops do in Vilnius and on the basis of what did they capture it?
Maybe because of this:
"Piłsudski also said:
Closed within the boundaries of the 16th century, cut off from the Black Sea and Baltic Sea, deprived of land and mineral wealth of the South and Southeast, Russia could easily move into the status of second-grade power. Poland as the largest and strongest of new states, could easily establish a sphere of influence stretching from Finland to the Caucasus."?


"Poland did not invade Czechoslovakia with Hitler. Poland invaded Czechoslovakia without agreement with Hitler. The aim was not to destroy Czechoslovakia, but to occupy a strategic industrial and communication area inhabited in large part, perhaps in the majority, by ethnic Poles. I'm not saying it was good because it wasn't"

- Poland attacked Czechoslovakia when Hitler delivered an ultimatum to Czechoslovakia, and England and France supported him. In short - the big brother did agreement, the younger brother began to act.

"When you say that Poles fought on Hitler's side, who do you mean? Poles, citizens of the Third Reich? Then I inform you that no one asked their opinion when they were drafted into the army. And they were not facing 15 years in prison for refusal, but the death penalty. And if you mean Poles, Polish citizens, there were none. There were no Polish volunteers. There were no Polish units in the service of the German army. Unlike General Vlasov's Russian Liberation Army and Kaminsky's Russian People's Liberation Army"

- 200 thousand soldiers were taken from the Polish Upper Silesia and Pomerania attached to the Third Reich. However, recruitment to the Wehrmacht continued further, and on an even larger scale. As a result, by the end of 1944, up to 450,000 citizens of pre-war Poland were drafted into the Wehrmacht. According to Professor Ryszard Kaczmarek, director of the Institute of History of the Silesian University, author of the book "Poles in the Wehrmacht", about half a million Poles from Upper Silesia and Pomerania passed through the German armed forces.
It is also known about the presence of Poles in the SS troops. During the fighting on the Russian front, Polish volunteers were noted in the 3rd SS Panzer Division "Dead Head", in the 4th SS Police Grenadier Division, in the 31st SS Volunteer Grenadier Division and the 32nd SS Volunteer Grenadier Division "January 30 ". At the final stage of the war, the so-called Świętokrzyski brigade or “Holy Cross brigade” was accepted into the SS troops, formed from Polish Nazis who adhered to radical anti-communist and anti-Semitic views and took part in the genocide of Jews. Its commander was Colonel Anthony Shatsky. The Sventokrzyski brigade, created in the summer of 1944 (over 800 fighters), fought against pro-communist military formations in Poland (Lyudov's army), Soviet partisans. In January 1945, the brigade entered into hostilities with the Soviet troops, became part of the German forces. From its composition, sabotage groups were formed for operations in the rear of the Red Army.

"We have the right to erect and tear down monuments on our territory. We do not destroy cemeteries, unlike your current allies, the Belarusians, who recently destroyed several Polish military cemeteries on their territory."

- There is "Agreement between the Government of the Russian Federation and the Government of the Republic of Poland on burials and places of memory of victims of wars and repressions "
Thus, the agreement concerns not only burial places, but also places of memory for the victims of the war, which certainly include the fallen Soviet soldiers.
For the sake of fairness, I want to say that many Poles oppose the demolition of monuments to Soviet wars and go to many tricks to save these monuments. For which special thanks to them.


"Man! A little humility! Before you start writing about something you know nothing about, do some research"

- Yes, maybe you should study the facts more as well? And modern Poland should not build a constant victim out of itself? Although, of course, such a position is obviously advantageous, just like in modern Ukraine.

 

[Flash12]

50 percent, 50 percent!, of Canada is not only cold, it is a HUGE ROCK, the Canadian Shield. How the heck are people supposed to survive on a big frozen rock? People who move to Canada are NOT totally insane nor stupid. They are allowed certain rights and freedoms, with those freedoms most make the wise choice to live in the only good places in Canada; the BC lower mainland area, Great Lakes region and a few bigger cities.

Russian far north is permafrost but that is soil and swamp when further south, not a big rock. People can grow some stuff. Hard cold life but potential to survive. Much easier place than a frozen rock for potential immigrants; Indian Russians, Pakistani Russians and Ukrainian Russians to build a civilization.



I think until 1946 Canada was Britain. People moved from Britain to Canada as within ONE nation. Every British war was a Canadian war. So WW1 and 2, Canada was invaded by the Germans. Think of it like this. Just because Siberia doesn’t get bombed doesn’t mean it isn’t involved in or paying for a war. Lots of wars and expenses. Local ones, US Revolution, Fenian Invasion?, War of 1812 (maybe others).

Here is Russian expansion (I also posted it long ago).

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Territorial_Expansion_of_Russia.svg

Russians are also constantly invading and fighting. plus had Fort Ross, California and 1/3 of Iran (allied with Britain to chop up Iran) for a time. Unlike Europe which, strangely, has huge numbers of people but few resources, Russia has few people and lots of certain resources. Result Russians conquer over land and don’t colonize much.
See the difference?
Russians had yet still invaded.
Europe had too many people and not enough resources so invaded/colonized. (look to Greeks, then Romans, then the migration period to see the gobs of people from Central Asia flood into tiny Europe)

"Russian far north is permafrost but that is soil and swamp when further south, not a big rock. People can grow some stuff. Hard cold life but potential to survive. Much easier place than a frozen rock for potential immigrants"

Permafrost means nothing can be grown there. If we take to the south, then yes, agriculture can be developed there. But these areas are sparsely populated and difficult to access. Nevertheless, even there, for example, some Australians immigrate.

https://www.youtube.com/@RussianHomesteadGirl

"I think until 1946 Canada was Britain. People moved from Britain to Canada as within ONE nation. Every British war was a Canadian war. So WW1 and 2, Canada was invaded by the Germans. Think of it like this."

- No, lets dont think like this )) The United States also participated in the first and second world wars, but for some reason it only got richer from this. Europe and Russia lost, while the US only gained from the war.


"Russians are also constantly invading and fighting. plus had Fort Ross, California and 1/3 of Iran (allied with Britain to chop up Iran) for a time. Unlike Europe which, strangely, has huge numbers of people but few resources, Russia has few people and lots of certain resources. Result Russians conquer over land and don’t colonize much."

- Russia doesnt have Fort Ross and 1/3 of Iran now. And now it has an overwhelming number of territories unsuitable for habitation. Please, you can come and populate Siberia. But just a few who want it. Yes, there are many resources, but I repeat: they are difficult to access. Have you ever been in the taiga, where hordes of insects devour you in a short time?

 

[Slawomir]

"Provide the date and title of the document confirming Poland's cooperation with the Third Reich!
Are these photos supposed to be a collaboration? Meeting of Piłsudski with Goebbels? A photo from some international military event? There is an international company there, French, English, Germans, Poles, and probably Hungarians as well."

- Poland was the first of all European states to sign a non-aggression pact with Nazi Germany.
The strength of the allied relations between Poland and Germany is evidenced by the following fact. In March 1935, Jozef Pilsudski, the founder of the bourgeois Polish state, died. Hermann Goering, then chairman of the Reichstag, flew to Krakow for the farewell ceremony for the late Pilsudski. In addition, Hitler held a symbolic funeral for Pilsudski in Berlin. A coffin covered with a Polish flag was placed in the Cathedral of St. Hedwig, and the ruling elite of Nazi Germany, headed by the Fuhrer Hitler, was placed on the benches of the cathedral.

Isn't it very similar to treating a "neutral" or "hostile" leader? To whom else did Hitler give such honors?

In general, the Polish authorities were very fond of meeting with their German counterparts.

Joseph Goebbels with flowers while visiting Warsaw

Goebbels has lunch with the deputies of the Polish Sejm

Friendly visit of the Foreign Minister of the Fascist Reich, adviser to Adolf Hitler Foreign Policy Officer, SS Standartenführer Joachim von Ribbentrop to Poland.

Friendly visit of the Italian fascist Gian Galeazzo Ciano to Poland. February 1939.

"We are talking about the essence of the official Polish-German non-aggression pact concluded on January 26, 1934. This annex can safely be called the Hitler-Pilsudski Pact. It is clear that the Poles now vehemently deny the very existence of this secret pact, and any mention of it is called “Kremlin propaganda”. The text of this document has not yet been found, however, there are a great many references to it. Moreover, the information came from a variety of sources, not related to each other. "

Hitler and Polish Foreign Minister Beck

Hermann Göring in Poland

Goering and Polish President Moscicki hunting in Belovezhskaya Pushcha

Goering loved hunting and Polish friends entertained him

On September 1, 1939, the Wehrmacht crosses the Polish border - this is how the Second World War begins. The Second Rzeczpospolita created by Piłsudski will cease to exist. But Hitler did not forget about the deceased friend.
When the Germans occupied Krakow in 1939, where the grave of the leader Piłsudski was, the guard of honor was put up there first of all.
(There is a photo of a German soldier at Pilsudski's grave in Krakow, but for some reason it is not displayed. )

"What invasion are you talking about? The war of 1919-1920 began with the Bolshevik attack on Vilnius in January 1919"
- I said about how did they end up in Minsk and Kyiv?
And small detail. What did the Polish troops do in Vilnius and on the basis of what did they capture it?
Maybe because of this:
"Piłsudski also said:
Closed within the boundaries of the 16th century, cut off from the Black Sea and Baltic Sea, deprived of land and mineral wealth of the South and Southeast, Russia could easily move into the status of second-grade power. Poland as the largest and strongest of new states, could easily establish a sphere of influence stretching from Finland to the Caucasus."?


"Poland did not invade Czechoslovakia with Hitler. Poland invaded Czechoslovakia without agreement with Hitler. The aim was not to destroy Czechoslovakia, but to occupy a strategic industrial and communication area inhabited in large part, perhaps in the majority, by ethnic Poles. I'm not saying it was good because it wasn't"

- Poland attacked Czechoslovakia when Hitler delivered an ultimatum to Czechoslovakia, and England and France supported him. In short - the big brother did agreement, the younger brother began to act.

"When you say that Poles fought on Hitler's side, who do you mean? Poles, citizens of the Third Reich? Then I inform you that no one asked their opinion when they were drafted into the army. And they were not facing 15 years in prison for refusal, but the death penalty. And if you mean Poles, Polish citizens, there were none. There were no Polish volunteers. There were no Polish units in the service of the German army. Unlike General Vlasov's Russian Liberation Army and Kaminsky's Russian People's Liberation Army"

- 200 thousand soldiers were taken from the Polish Upper Silesia and Pomerania attached to the Third Reich. However, recruitment to the Wehrmacht continued further, and on an even larger scale. As a result, by the end of 1944, up to 450,000 citizens of pre-war Poland were drafted into the Wehrmacht. According to Professor Ryszard Kaczmarek, director of the Institute of History of the Silesian University, author of the book "Poles in the Wehrmacht", about half a million Poles from Upper Silesia and Pomerania passed through the German armed forces.
It is also known about the presence of Poles in the SS troops. During the fighting on the Russian front, Polish volunteers were noted in the 3rd SS Panzer Division "Dead Head", in the 4th SS Police Grenadier Division, in the 31st SS Volunteer Grenadier Division and the 32nd SS Volunteer Grenadier Division "January 30 ". At the final stage of the war, the so-called Świętokrzyski brigade or “Holy Cross brigade” was accepted into the SS troops, formed from Polish Nazis who adhered to radical anti-communist and anti-Semitic views and took part in the genocide of Jews. Its commander was Colonel Anthony Shatsky. The Sventokrzyski brigade, created in the summer of 1944 (over 800 fighters), fought against pro-communist military formations in Poland (Lyudov's army), Soviet partisans. In January 1945, the brigade entered into hostilities with the Soviet troops, became part of the German forces. From its composition, sabotage groups were formed for operations in the rear of the Red Army.

"We have the right to erect and tear down monuments on our territory. We do not destroy cemeteries, unlike your current allies, the Belarusians, who recently destroyed several Polish military cemeteries on their territory."

- There is "Agreement between the Government of the Russian Federation and the Government of the Republic of Poland on burials and places of memory of victims of wars and repressions "
Thus, the agreement concerns not only burial places, but also places of memory for the victims of the war, which certainly include the fallen Soviet soldiers.
For the sake of fairness, I want to say that many Poles oppose the demolition of monuments to Soviet wars and go to many tricks to save these monuments. For which special thanks to them.


"Man! A little humility! Before you start writing about something you know nothing about, do some research"

- Yes, maybe you should study the facts more as well? And modern Poland should not build a constant victim out of itself? Although, of course, such a position is obviously advantageous, just like in modern Ukraine.

No facts. Just a factual story. A Jewish Haggadah. Pictures to prove something and quotes from an unknown source.
The only concrete thing is "Agreement between the Government of the Russian Federation and the Government of the Republic of Poland on burials and places of memory of victims of wars and repressions" In fact, if any of the demolished monuments were a memorial to the victims, then their destruction was unlawful, and the complaints are valid. Nevertheless, an appropriate example would have to be provided first.

"And small detail. What did the Polish troops do in Vilnius and on the basis of what did they capture it?" On the same basis as the troops of Luhansk and Donetsk. They lived there, created "self-defense" units, which were incorporated into the Polish Army.

 

[Flash12]

Speaking of that "final solution" - why does Donetsk after 8 years of "Ukrainian genocidal shelling" looks no worse than average Russian city, while cities in the Ukraine look like 1946 Hiroshima even after a few weeks of Russian "liberation" ?

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Well done, and you are a master of manipulation.

And why does Kiev in 2015 in the first photo, after the "invasion of Russia", about which Europe was so worried and set sanctions on Russia, look better than Donetsk in the second photo, about which Europe was absolutely silent and didnt set sanctions on Kiev?

 

[Flash12]

Speaking of that "final solution" - why does Donetsk after 8 years of "Ukrainian genocidal shelling" looks no worse than average Russian city, while cities in the Ukraine look like 1946 Hiroshima even after a few weeks of Russian "liberation" ?

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"Not shelled Donetsk". Did you see that? Or you just see what media show to you? Or they say Russia shot this?

 

[Master Chief]

after that, a mega tsunami sweeps across the world wiping out every coastal and medos followed by a radioactive rain to wipe out the remaining humanity.....
Then we start as-----------
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What.. Is there going to be an asteroid strike ?

 

[Flash12]

No facts. Just a factual story. A Jewish Haggadah. Pictures to prove something and quotes from an unknown source.
The only concrete thing is "Agreement between the Government of the Russian Federation and the Government of the Republic of Poland on burials and places of memory of victims of wars and repressions" In fact, if any of the demolished monuments were a memorial to the victims, then their destruction was unlawful, and the complaints are valid. Nevertheless, an appropriate example would have to be provided first.

"And small detail. What did the Polish troops do in Vilnius and on the basis of what did they capture it?" On the same basis as the troops of Luhansk and Donetsk. They lived there, created "self-defense" units, which were incorporated into the Polish Army.

Well done well done. So Soviet attack on Polish army was bad bad bad and the start of war of Russia against pro-Poland region. And Ukrainian attack on Donetsk and Lugansk is good good and legitimate and not the start of war of Ukraine against pro-Russian region, right?