Russia Ukraine War 2022

Who will win this war?.


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Hari Sud

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Military situation in Ukraine

No matter how much the Ukrainians try and confuse the world with western produced false reporting; this winter will be decisive. Already as an act of war, the Russians has cut off their city of power, water and other essential services. On top of that, there is no oil or gas to heat up home or run the industry. The Western media is pressing the rest of the world to believe that Ukrainian victory is imminent, but it is not. Soon the all of NATO including the main contributor US would be forced to wind up shop in Ukraine. This war has killed the Ukrainian enthusiasm to become a part of NATO. How long can they live without essential services like water, power and in the middle of a rubble. Moreover cold has frozen all the western supplied military hardware. It is unoperational now. The Russian hardware is a bit better. It is built for cold climate as Russia is a cold country hence all design takes that into consideration. Hence, the prospect of NATO/Ukrainian victory is remote. They rather windup and spare the lives of Ukrainians.

Hence negotiation is the only way out with dumping of war monger Zelensky.
Let us hope it happens sooner than later.
 

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Military situation in Ukraine

No matter how much the Ukrainians try and confuse the world with western produced false reporting; this winter will be decisive. Already as an act of war, the Russians has cut off their city of power, water and other essential services. On top of that, there is no oil or gas to heat up home or run the industry. The Western media is pressing the rest of the world to believe that Ukrainian victory is imminent, but it is not. Soon the all of NATO including the main contributor US would be forced to wind up shop in Ukraine. This war has killed the Ukrainian enthusiasm to become a part of NATO. How long can they live without essential services like water, power and in the middle of a rubble. Moreover cold has frozen all the western supplied military hardware. It is unoperational now. The Russian hardware is a bit better. It is built for cold climate as Russia is a cold country hence all design takes that into consideration. Hence, the prospect of NATO/Ukrainian victory is remote. They rather windup and spare the lives of Ukrainians.

Hence negotiation is the only way out with dumping of war monger Zelensky.
Let us hope it happens sooner than later.
Frankly speaking, ukrn won't be allowed to do any sort of negotiation even if some how chances of such emarges, that backbench has been setup past 6 month, US won't mind if some more thousands die, either be it from either side, their declared goal past 60 some years is total collapse of any major opposing force- by any means. Ukraine will be milked as a tinfoil soldier against russia in lue of NATO membership, which will be veto-ed by any 1 of member stating any lame reason for some more months on the day of voting -to prolong the economic / military/ face suffering of Russia, rather they will be kept supplied weapons to keep their morals high as the opposing force face of RU.
The war has already turned as a half -3rd W war as 41 vs 4 nations under the table.... either it will collapse ukraine totally as same like afgans or somali s as a failed state in EU backdrop or it will further disintegrate russia failing to sustain it's population and its' needs.

The same cycle will continue for winter throughout-
ukris will keep trying and dying in masses to soilout dug in russians, they will keep dronnnnning russian infras deep within infuriating russians for further obliterating more ukrnian infras,
EU and US will keep supplying sleeping bags, MREs and weapons to keep russians further itched....

We will keep tossing the coin for a result... for next 5000 pages..... thats all.
 

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Moreover cold has frozen all the western supplied military hardware. It is unoperational now. The Russian hardware is a bit better. It is built for cold climate as Russia is a cold country hence all design takes that into consideration. Hence, the prospect of NATO/Ukrainian victory is remote.
Lol oh no. I guess we'll have to see

And yes, russian equipment is obviously so much better...it's made out of vibranium. Russia hasn't really gone to war yet so they're just gonna use Iranian drones and missiles for now.

+ Russian logistics and maintenance of equipment has been just top notch. Ukraine and their western allies are a bunch of idiots.
 

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I really don't get the point of this information. The Russians moved the planes. Does this mean they will now lose the war?
So you think abandoning a airbase which was being used to bomb Ukraine is not significant? One of the west focused nuclear bomber hosting bases.

Doesn't suprise me.
More rational thinkers would assume this as a sign from Ukraine that they can attack Russia deep inside and their air defense is spread far too thin.
 

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I really don't get the point of this information. The Russians moved the planes. Does this mean they will now lose the war?
No.. just that Russian bombers would have to take off for their bombing runs, from airfields farther away, reducing their payload and complicating their bombing run related logistics ( like requiring more refueled)..
 

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No.. just that Russian bombers would have to take off for their bombing runs, from airfields farther away, reducing their payload and complicating their bombing run related logistics ( like requiring more refueled)..
These bombers have a range of 7k km with a full payload. So far their round trip is under 1500 km, so it means nothing to move these bombers back 2k km, but they might probably only move them back a thousand km at most.
 

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So you think abandoning a airbase which was being used to bomb Ukraine is not significant? One of the west focused nuclear bomber hosting bases.

Doesn't suprise me.
More rational thinkers would assume this as a sign from Ukraine that they can attack Russia deep inside and their air defense is spread far too thin.
Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. I'll say it again, it means nothing, zero. What does mean something is Zelensky throwing thousands of troops into the Bakhmut meatgrinder, but that means nothing to you. Keep focusing on the meaningless crap, and ignore the major things, that's what you do best.
 

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