Russia Ukraine War 2022

Who will win this war?.


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Master Chief

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After, Biden and Macron, now Scholz, looks like West is realizing that Russia can't be thrown out of annexed territories militarily..

 

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Well.. you make Russians seen like saints.. when they are just as nasty..
You can find a lot of videos, calling for Ukraine's extinction on Russian public TV.. And the harder the Ukranians fight, the more will be Russian venom towards Ukraine's existence [ And the way things are going, Ukraine is a potent security threat to Russia, just like Pakistan is to India]..

Because, here is the logic: You don't hate an impotent enemy. Because, an incapable enemy however nasty, doesn't deserve your hate.. Just like I won't hate or fear a 5.5 feet guy who physically threatens me, and would dismiss him as a nuisance. But, I would hate and fear, a 6.5 foot guy who threatens me, and would try to find some way to destroy him...

There may be some truth to your small guy- big guy analogy but the key difference between the video you've posted of Mardan's interview with Rostislav Ishenko is that Ishenko is referring to the erasure of Ukraine as a state, not extermination of it's people whereas Ukrops, with the rare exception, are usually heard explicitly demanding the annihilation of Russian people- this is the essence of Ukrainian Nazism as I see it.

Ishenko who by the way is Ukrainian himself and hilariously autistic in a Dustin Hoffman from Rainman kind of way, has been saying this for months. He has a savant like knowledge of world history and geopolitics and his commentary tends to be very dry and solely based on reason as one would expect from someone with autism. He has rightly been very critical of the SVO, particularly it's lack of clear objectives and poor execution, from Day 1 and the opinion expressed in your video is derived from his reasoning that once Russia has got into this mess and turned the Ukrainian state into a mortal enemy, it has to destroy it irrevocably. In other videos, he talks about post- Ukrainian scenarios, reeducation of the population drawing on the Soviet experience from post WW2 East Germany etc.

The only popular Russian commentator who I have witnessed calling for the actual killing of 'hohols' is Vladlen Tatarski' but he is a reformed criminal and active soldier from the Donbass (he did time for armed robbery before breaking out of jail to join the partisans). On the other hand, you have daily statements from even Ukropian high officials calling for the killing of 'all Rusnya' etc
 

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Just leave him be, bechara sentimental se mental ho chuka hai ever since the Russians withdrew from Kherson.
If you don’t see how embarrassing that is, then I don’t understand.

Kherson was the ONLY regional capital they captured. And they did it in an impressive manner. Now, they lost that city.

All they have is useless villages full of ukranians who will be protesting against muh rossian occupation.
 

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If you don’t see how embarrassing that is, then I don’t understand.

Kherson was the ONLY regional capital they captured. And they did it in an impressive manner. Now, they lost that city.

All they have is useless villages full of ukranians who will be protesting against muh rossian occupation.
The only thing I see right now is a screaming teenager with questionable mental balance.
 

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If you don’t see how embarrassing that is, then I don’t understand.

Kherson was the ONLY regional capital they captured. And they did it in an impressive manner. Now, they lost that city.

All they have is useless villages full of ukranians who will be protesting against muh rossian occupation.
Look I wasn't happy when they withdrew from Kherson but let's face it - Russia achieved their core objectives. Yes they didn't achieve their ideal objectives such as taking Odessa and marching through Kiev but at the very least, they got to protect Russian interests and secured a land corridor to Crimea as well as the water links.
 

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The only thing I see right now is a screaming teenager with questionable mental balance.
I am speaking the reality.

yeah I’m fucked in the head, not gonna lie, but I want to get to the bottom of this.

Said Russian army is losing.
 

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These revolutions were carried out by the "impudent method" - lucky or unlucky. They did not have the most important thing - material support. And they were not organized by Russia. After all, every country in Europe had its own socialists. It's just that someone wanted to follow the path of evolutionary socialism, and someone along the path indicated by Marx.
I say that fascism itself goes back to ancient Mesopotamia, only it was without scientific justification. But this is how the situation developed after the "suicide of Europe" Right and left political forces offered an easy solution.
I never said they were organized by Russia. But they did spread fear of Communism across the continent, and thus made people more susceptible to "alternatives", especially to centrist ideologies such as Nazism and Fascism. And yes, they were centrist at best: both of these were economically leftist*, and Mussolini couldn't even decide whether he was a racist or a civic nationalist: "national pride has no need for the delirium of race... race, it's a feeling, not a reality". Both of these were literally the "third way"

* You are correct about ancient Mesopotamia: economically, Communism is basically a copy-paste of Mesopotamian palace economy.
 

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Look I wasn't happy when they withdrew from Kherson but let's face it - Russia achieved their core objectives. Yes they didn't achieve their ideal objectives such as taking Odessa and marching through Kiev but at the very least, they got to protect Russian interests and secured a land corridor to Crimea as well as the water links.
What they need to do is actually bring out their airforce. When will the Su57 ever see action?
 

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Wrong. This conflict proved the opposite. The West hates Russia more than anything and is willing to support anything against Russia including neoNazis state and Islamic fundamental state. To the West Russia was always the number one enemy.
I have a question. Why should the West hate Russia? What is there in Russia that others do not have? At the household level, this is an alcoholic neighbor who has a gun. Why should I hate my neighbor if he only drinks in his apartment? But if he yells songs on the landing and urinates in the lift elevator, he deserves punishment.
 

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