Russia Ukraine War 2022

Who will win this war?.


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ww2historian

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So, Putin's political escalation of annexing Donbass into Mother Russia, by which, he hoped to deter NATO from supplying arms to Ukraine, and arrest the Ukranian momentum after the Kharkhiv offensive, has not worked.. Although, the other expectations of annexation, like, convincing the local administration to risk their lives for Russia, and being able to deploy all those conscripts inside what is now Russian land, would still hold true..
You're correct, I thought his speech guaranteed the security of these annexed areas. I think they have to counter attack very soon. If you can't guarantee the protection of these now Russian citizens, how will you gain their confidence? The main purpose of an army is to fight for people that can't fight themselves. This was IMO one of those times you had to fight till the last man, unless you're planning a counter offensive very soon.
 
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who is involved in the new Baltic pipeline???
The Baltic Pipeline that opened Tuesday will bring gas from Norway to Poland via Denmark, but has a capacity of only 10 billion cubic meters per year. The Nord Stream systems could carry up to 110 billion cubic meters per year.
 
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The Baltic Pipeline that opened Tuesday will bring gas from Norway to Poland via Denmark, but has a capacity of only 10 billion cubic meters per year. The Nord Stream systems could carry up to 110 billion cubic meters per year.
US will not be initially able to fill a Russian supply but give it time and higher prices US will definey be their US replacing Russians in European energy market. Pretty obvious.
 

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US will not be initially able to fill a Russian supply but give it time and higher prices US will definey be their US replacing Russians in European energy market. Pretty obvious.
By that time, Europe's living standards are going to plunge and so will their ability to pay.
 

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By that time, Europe's living standards are going to plunge and so will their ability to pay.
Nah they will resort to plundering resources in Africa expect some regime change in Algeria, Libya and Nigeria. Things will sour up for Africa. They will be screwed royally by neo colonialist.
 
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But gas provided by USA will be LNG . Much more expensive . Industries cnt be sustained with that . Real winner is Poland here . I was wondering why poland was so aggressive about Russian gas , rejecting payment in rubble etc . Thought may be they are more loyal to NATO etc . Then came to know about pipeline 😂 ... Everyone fckd Germany , Both NATO and Russia . It's just that Germany does nt know it so far .
Poland thanked USA. Poland will be a wealthier country and gains the most in Europe from all this


 

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US will not be initially able to fill a Russian supply but give it time and higher prices US will definey be their US replacing Russians in European energy market. Pretty obvious.
Yes USA ll fill a big portion of void .

" Global LNG capacity is expected to grow considerably in the next four years, with the US leading globally with 150Mtpa of liquefaction capacity additions by 2025. GlobalData’s latest report, ‘Global Capacity and Capital Expenditure Outlook for LNG Liquefaction Terminals, 2021–2025 – North America Dominates Global Capacity Additions and Capex Spending,’ indicates that global liquefied natural gas (LNG) liquefaction capacity is expected to grow by 70% over the next four years, from 460 million tonnes per annum (Mtpa) in 2021 to 780Mtpa in 2025 from new build and expansion projects . "

 

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If you can't guarantee the protection of these now Russian citizens, how will you gain their confidence? The main purpose of an army is to fight for people that can't fight themselves. This was IMO one of those times you had to fight till the last man, unless you're planning a counter offensive very soon.
And why do you think that those people are interested in the "protection" of a RuSSian army? If someone declared that you are a Russian from now on, will you suddenly start feeling like one? :cool3:
 

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Nah they will resort to plundering resources in Africa expect some regime change in Algeria, Libya and Nigeria. Things will sour up for Africa. They will be screwed royally by neo colonialist.
I was thinking about this, and it is very likely. The Scramble for Africa, Pt II!

We are about to see a lot of very interesting geopolitics in the Mediterranean and in sub-Saharan Africa. Only, this time, Europe and America will be pretending to co-operate but will in fact be competing. Italy is critical to piping gas to German industry from Algeria, Libya and the Cyrpus-Israel fields so expect a sudden change in Germany’s stance on Italian public finances.

Now I begin to understand the bizarre proxy wars in Africa and the sudden interest of the Shining City on a Hill in the Dark Continent. What is at stake is:
– French nuclear fuel
– Saharan gas fields
– Libyan oil
– new oil and gas resources in central Africa (Uganda, South Sudan etc.), which may be too far to satisfy Europe but, in satisfying North Africa, can free up oil and gas for EU consumption.

Some things that might come to pass:

– If Western Europe now needs stable southern petro-states which export commodities rather than migrants, expect it to start funding autocrats and its own military basis on the southern Mediterranean littoral and to cease funding jihadists and human rights campaigns.

– There may even be a new campaign for EU enlargement. Tunisia would be my first guess, as the smallest and less unstable prospect and the one most afraid of its Maghreb neighbours.

– Turkey will *not* be invited to join the EU. The Turkish-Cypriot border may become very interesting though, as Turkey and Cyprus and Israel and Lebanon seek control of the gas fields. France and Greece will play a big role here….

– Norway will have a lot of influence and experience a lot of pressure.
– Will we see a formal EU outer perimeter, of states that won’t or can’t comply with the core project (the Euro and the EU acquis) but are willing to circle the wagons around the EU for their own interests (UK, Norway (leaving EFTA), Maghreb, maybe Turkey – who knows, even Israel, given it is in Eurovision and the Horizon science programme)

– there will be a significantly increased level of activity in sub-Saharan African countries by their former colonial powers and the US. These countries are not going to be anybody’s ally, they are neutrals in a war and can make money from both sides. The dirty business will not be EU and Anglosphere moves to fight Russian and Chinese influence but their jousting with each other!

– Is Nigeria the new Ottoman Empire? Ethnically and religiously divided, fabulously corrupt, rich in petro-chemicals and perhaps ripe for break-up by hungry European powers?
 
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Yes USA ll fill a big portion of void .

" Global LNG capacity is expected to grow considerably in the next four years, with the US leading globally with 150Mtpa of liquefaction capacity additions by 2025. GlobalData’s latest report, ‘Global Capacity and Capital Expenditure Outlook for LNG Liquefaction Terminals, 2021–2025 – North America Dominates Global Capacity Additions and Capex Spending,’ indicates that global liquefied natural gas (LNG) liquefaction capacity is expected to grow by 70% over the next four years, from 460 million tonnes per annum (Mtpa) in 2021 to 780Mtpa in 2025

from new build and expansion projects . "
US natural gas capacity is much larger than anyone can imagine

 

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And why do you think that those people are interested in the "protection" of a RuSSian army? If someone declared that you are a Russian from now on, will you suddenly start feeling like one? :cool3:
They wouldn't need protection in most cases, but we are talking about a evil Ukrainian Nazis.
 

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