Russia Ukraine War 2022

Who will win this war?.


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Kinda off topic but why am I getting flooded with spam ads to aid ukrain? Its in inbox , YouTube, Google ads. I think Washington approved a new budget for their degital propaganda after the amnesty international release.


Also is there a way to financially aid Russia? I find it insulting that big tech can flood Indians to fuel their war machine but it's practically impossible to help Russia . I would donate 500$ to Russia just out of spite.
 

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Looks like another hit near Crimea

Good. Looks like Russia will be forced to accept very soon it's a war, and Ukrainians are not some kind of brothers but a dangerous Trojan horse of a neighbor similar to Napakistan is for us. They need to go full blast and utterly destroy the infrastructure, power supply, transport links in West / Central Ukraine.

Going in with the soft approach hasn't done them any good, or given them any advantage, thanks to the propoganda by the western nations (who behaved rather differently in Iraq, Libya and Vietnam). They need to conduct this war the way Americans would.
 

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Russian artillery began to actively use Krasnopol high-precision guided missiles. The front received 5000 thousand of such ammunition. The video shows the impact of the Krasnopol projectile on the Ukrainian M777 howitzer made in the USA.




The work of sappers in Ukraine. When searching for mines, IMP-S2 induction mine detectors are used.




Ukraine received a batch of Turkish-made Kirpi armored vehicles, 50 vehicles are already on the front line, - said Yury Misyagin, deputy of the ruling Servant of the People party. Turkish armored car Kirpi 4x4 developed by the Navy




Video of the assembly and launch of the Russian Orlan-10 UAV. The drone is refueled with AI-95 fuel and launched from a catapult. At the time of launch, wind speeds up to 10 m/s are allowed. Orlan-10 can stay in the air for up to 16-18 hours.


 

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Good. Looks like Russia will be forced to accept very soon it's a war, and Ukrainians are not some kind of brothers but a dangerous Trojan horse of a neighbor similar to Napakistan is for us. They need to go full blast and utterly destroy the infrastructure, power supply, transport links in West / Central Ukraine.

Going in with the soft approach hasn't done them any good, or given them any advantage, thanks to the propoganda by the western nations (who behaved rather differently in Iraq, Libya and Vietnam). They need to conduct this war the way Americans would.
Cope. What exactly will Russia do?
 

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Cope. What exactly will Russia do?
Firstly, thanks for being so predictable.
Secondly, read. It's right there in the same post.
If you need a further hint, guess which of the following countries went through a recent war...and didn't have it's power stations wrecked, bridges and water plants destroyed,etc
A. Libya
B. Iraq
C. Serbia
D. Ukraine
 

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Good. Looks like Russia will be forced to accept very soon it's a war, and Ukrainians are not some kind of brothers but a dangerous Trojan horse of a neighbor similar to Napakistan is for us. They need to go full blast and utterly destroy the infrastructure, power supply, transport links in West / Central Ukraine.

Going in with the soft approach hasn't done them any good, or given them any advantage, thanks to the propoganda by the western nations (who behaved rather differently in Iraq, Libya and Vietnam). They need to conduct this war the way Americans would.
More than brotherly concerns.. I think Russia wants to take the cities largely intact, as it seeks to absorb these oblasts into Russia. ( unlike US which absolutely had no intention of absorbing Iraq or Afghanistan into US )
NOW, Russia largely achieved demilitarization of Ukraine's military industrial complex during the first few months of the war. Now, there are no major functioning factories in Ukraine.. But, this slow pace of Russian operations is giving Ukraine the time to switch over entirely to NATO weaponry..
With each passing month, Ukranian Army will gain more experience in handling NATO weapons. Will gain more experience in repair; establish small workshops for repairing NATO weaponry.. as the Production side will be taken care of by NATO. SO, DEMILITARIZATION as in the Ultimate defeat and surrender of the Ukranian Army is still a distant objective for Russia.
 

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Firstly, thanks for being so predictable.
Secondly, read. It's right there in the same post.
If you need a further hint, guess which of the following countries went through a recent war...and didn't have it's power stations wrecked, bridges and water plants destroyed,etc
A. Libya
B. Iraq
C. Serbia
D. Ukraine
I can read very well. I read all day.
Russia can't do any of that. NATO can rape any country around the globe....don't give example of those countries with regard to failed state Russia. The only country that didn't has not been attacked by NATO...why don't you get the hint?

Russia is literally using ww2 siege tactics of artillery barrage...like how complicated is it? been 4 months and still you idiots can't understand it.

Behenchod ek air superiority ni le sake....saare airfield in range hain Russia ke. Karo na! karte kyun nahi!
4 mahine se randi rona laga rkha hai...abhi ayega putin...abhi maaji satkli....but nothing ever happens.
 

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More than brotherly concerns.. I think Russia wants to take the cities largely intact, as it seeks to absorb these oblasts into Russia. ( unlike US which absolutely had no intention of absorbing Iraq or Afghanistan into US )
NOW, Russia largely achieved demilitarization of Ukraine's military industrial complex during the first few months of the war. Now, there are no major functioning factories in Ukraine.. But, this slow pace of Russian operations is giving Ukraine the time to switch over entirely to NATO weaponry..
With each passing month, Ukranian Army will gain more experience in handling NATO weapons. Will gain more experience in repair; establish small workshops for repairing NATO weaponry.. as the Production side will be taken care of by NATO. SO, DEMILITARIZATION as in the Ultimate defeat and surrender of the Ukranian Army is still a distant objective for Russia.
Just today, a video appeared where the Gauleiter of the Luhansk region says that town Popasna will not be restored, because the town is completely destroyed.
 

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I can read very well. I read all day.
Russia can't do any of that. NATO can rape any country around the globe....don't give example of those countries with regard to failed state Russia. The only country that didn't has not been attacked by NATO...why don't you get the hint?

Russia is literally using ww2 siege tactics of artillery barrage...like how complicated is it? been 4 months and still you idiots can't understand it.

Behenchod ek air superiority ni le sake....saare airfield in range hain Russia ke. Karo na! karte kyun nahi!
4 mahine se randi rona laga rkha hai...abhi ayega putin...abhi maaji satkli....but nothing ever happens.
Here's a unbiased experts opinion from Colonel Markus Reisner, "
The Ukrainian army has learned from its mistakes since the annexation of Crimea,” says Markus Reisner, colonel in the Austrian Armed Forces and head of the development department at the Military Academy in Wiener Neustadt. Back then, the Russian army was inflicting massive casualties on Ukraine “just by being able to shell them with their artillery in the open.” This time it’s different.

The army command in Kyiv deliberately shifted the fighting to urban areas in order to be able to entrench themselves better. “Only in this way was the Ukrainian army able to survive,” Reisner emphasizes the importance of this tactical decision. Linking military necessity with the applicable international legal situation, the outrage at the Amnesty report becomes understandable.

For the Kremlin, on the other hand, the report is a welcome gift, says Markus Reisner. “Such reports are of course used for propaganda purposes and in the struggle for information sovereignty in this war,” he is certain.

So in other words, the Russians don't have much of a choice but to use siege tactics. Also it's important to remember this is the only way Ukraine can survive, but they can't have their cake and eat it to, so they bitch and whine that they are entitled to use this illegal tactic. Well they are actually denying using this tactic, but one can read between the lines. https://germany.detailzero.com/worl...ics-really-endanger-civilians-–-Politics.html
 

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Here's a unbiased experts opinion from Colonel Markus Reisner, "
The Ukrainian army has learned from its mistakes since the annexation of Crimea,” says Markus Reisner, colonel in the Austrian Armed Forces and head of the development department at the Military Academy in Wiener Neustadt. Back then, the Russian army was inflicting massive casualties on Ukraine “just by being able to shell them with their artillery in the open.” This time it’s different.

The army command in Kyiv deliberately shifted the fighting to urban areas in order to be able to entrench themselves better. “Only in this way was the Ukrainian army able to survive,” Reisner emphasizes the importance of this tactical decision. Linking military necessity with the applicable international legal situation, the outrage at the Amnesty report becomes understandable.

For the Kremlin, on the other hand, the report is a welcome gift, says Markus Reisner. “Such reports are of course used for propaganda purposes and in the struggle for information sovereignty in this war,” he is certain.

So in other words, the Russians don't have much of a choice but to use siege tactics. Also it's important to remember this is the only way Ukraine can survive, but they can't have their cake and eat it to, so they bitch and whine that they are entitled to use this illegal tactic. Well they are actually denying using this tactic, but one can read between the lines. https://germany.detailzero.com/world/57206/Amnesty-International-raises-serious-allegations-Did-Ukraine’s-war-tactics-really-endanger-civilians-–-Politics.html
Why Russia not leveraging their airforce ? Let's answer @Longewala first. He thinks Russia can do better than this so we should explain why that is plausible.
 

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Why Russia not leveraging their airforce ? Let's answer @Longewala first. He thinks Russia can do better than this so we should explain why that is plausible.
Russia uses them, but only on the front line. Further into the depths - they are shot down.
In Russia, the Su-17 and MiG-27 are being removed from conservation.
 

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Russia uses them, but only on the front line. Further into the depths - they are shot down.
In Russia, the Su-17 and MiG-27 are being removed from conservation.
No , what you are saying has big implications

You do realise that su 22 were retired during soviet era itself.
 

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Russia uses them, but only on the front line. Further into the depths - they are shot down.
In Russia, the Su-17 and MiG-27 are being removed from conservation.
Pathetic. Where is Su-57? A fighter jet so cutting-edge that America made a better jet 20 years ago.
I was told Russia has stealth jets and drones which can make boom? I thought Syria was not a media campaign but made Su-57 combat capable? Where is it?
Why aren't hypersonic super galactic missiles taking out the air defence?
4 months passed but only excuses and hypotheticals that Russia "just isn't taking it seriously yet".
Russia was supposed to make a landing in Odessa any day 2 months back... How blind you have to be? I'll never know.
 

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No , what you are saying has big implications

You do realise that su 22 were retired during soviet era itself.
Of course. but there is an aiming system for air-to-ground missiles. They will not fly to the front line.
 

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I mean have we forgotten that Russia doesn't even have a secure comms system yet? We get to hear Russian nibbas talking to their side bitches on the daily stealing some washing machines and iPads... Boiii gtfo here with that bs
 

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Pathetic. Where is Su-57? A fighter jet so cutting-edge that America made a better jet 20 years ago.
I was told Russia has stealth jets and drones which can make boom? I thought Syria was not a media campaign but made Su-57 combat capable? Where is it?
Why aren't hypersonic super galactic missiles taking out the air defence?
4 months passed but only excuses and hypotheticals that Russia "just isn't taking it seriously yet".
Russia was supposed to make a landing in Odessa any day 2 months back... How blind you have to be? I'll never know.
Great intensity of the war.
 

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Why Russia not leveraging their airforce ? Let's answer @Longewala first. He thinks Russia can do better than this so we should explain why that is plausible.
Again, learn to read
Notice that line
"The army command in Kyiv deliberately shifted the fighting to urban areas in order to be able to entrench themselves better"
Here is another hint. Shifting the fighting to civilian populated areas or cities did not help much for Vietnam, Iraq or Serbia, so they didn't try that much. Likewise for say Kurdish militants fighting Turkey, or Bangladeshi freedom fighters in 1971.

The reason Ukraine is able to hide behind civilians is because Russia is holding back and being civilised. The recent attacks should hopefully cure them of that delusion.

Russia can't do better. They can do worse, though, in the moral sense, which would ironically put them bang in line with how the Western countries conduct war.
 

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