Russia Ukraine War 2022

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Master Chief

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Isn't attack on Crimea considered as attack on Russian territory according to their own propoganda?
Ukraine has previously attacked Proper Russian territory like Belgorod.. using drones.. But, American munitions like Himars has not been used, as US forbid it..
Also, most countries including India do not recognize Crimea as part of Russian Federation..
 

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Isn't attack on Crimea considered as attack on Russian territory according to their own propoganda?
Crimea is Russian territory, just like Falklands or Gibraltar is British territory...unless you consider the latter to be "British propoganda". So, yes, it is an attack on Russian territory, and we are moving closer to the stage where it's no longer a "limited" war where Western countries can poke the Russian bear while staying on the sidelines.
 

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Crimea is Russian territory, just like Falklands or Gibraltar is British territory...unless you consider the latter to be "British propoganda". So, yes, it is an attack on Russian territory, and we are moving closer to the stage where it's no longer a "limited" war where Western countries can poke the Russian bear while staying on the sidelines.
I do consider the later to be British propaganda,
Russian bear? I think friends and foes alike have been very impressed by the show that Putin has put on.
 

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I do consider the later to be British propaganda,
Russian bear? I think friends and foes alike have been very impressed by the show that Putin has put on.
You know what, for someone who goes around labelling everyone else as "Putin simps" for not lapping up Western propoganda, you sure are obsessed with him. Some kind of gay fantasy perhaps?

And no, it's not a "Putin show," it's all about ordinary Russkies.
No Western country could have taken 20 mn dead and still tear apart Natzi Germany in WW2....and no Western country could take on the the level of sanctions and open racist hostility, take on a numerically superior army in well prepared defensive positions, masses of high end weaponry pumped in to your enemy, and still end up with the amount of prime territory and inflict the level of casualties the Russians have managed.
 

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Ukraine hates the truth, but CBS caved after Ukraine had a temper tantrum. They won't show the documentary now. "Only about 30% of the weapons sent to Ukraine by the US and its allies have actually made it to the front lines, according to a CBS News investigative report that was released on Thursday. Getting weapons to the troops involves navigating a complex network of “power lords, oligarchs [and] political players,” the outlet cited Lithuanian aid group founder Jonas Ohman as saying. However, facing pressure from the Ukrainian government and its supporters, CBS censored itself on Sunday, deciding to cancel a documentary that it had planned to broadcast on the issue and revising the text version of its report." Someone needs to tell those crybabies, you can't run away from your problems.
 

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So, what happened to the Russian VDV? you never hear of them these days. Did they really get wiped out in the Hostomel attack?
 

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You know what, for someone who goes around labelling everyone else as "Putin simps" for not lapping up Western propoganda, you sure are obsessed with him. Some kind of gay fantasy perhaps?

And no, it's not a "Putin show," it's all about ordinary Russkies.
No Western country could have taken 20 mn dead and still tear apart Natzi Germany in WW2....and no Western country could take on the the level of sanctions and open racist hostility, take on a numerically superior army in well prepared defensive positions, masses of high end weaponry pumped in to your enemy, and still end up with the amount of prime territory and inflict the level of casualties the Russians have managed.
If you knew about the realities of russian politics you wouldn't be saying all this nonsense. Very apparent you need to learn alot about it if you have a need to make speeches of how glorious Russia is.
 

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