Russia Ukraine War 2022

Who will win this war?.


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temujin

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I have a suspicion: to give themself weight and significance
Not that the Poles require a reason to hate the Russians but in this case, beyond using Ukrops as cannon fodder to degrade the Russian military threat, Poles and their American overlords have a much greater interest in getting Hohlandia into the European fold. The EU is moving away from a system of national vetoes to one of simple majorities, where votes are assigned based on national populations. 'If' Hohlandia is ever admitted into the EU, it would receive roughly 9% share of the total voting rights in the EU parliament and executive under a reformed voting arrangement. With Hohlandia as it's lapdog this would allow Poland, together with other 'Visegrad' allies to create a coalition of socially conservative, 'illiberal' Eastern European members to weaken the Franco-German axis and permanently shift the EU's political centre of gravity eastwards. This Polish led coalition would also be used to sabotage the EU's 'progressive' social agenda and align EU security and foreign policy with Poland's and Washington's (Poland is an American outpost in Eastern Europe) priorities i.e. containing Russia and keeping the Germans/French in check to maintain 'balance of power'. And most importantly for economic parasites like Poland and Ukropia, this majority could also be used to initiate and vote through financial policies forcing further transfer of funds from Western Europe to the East- it is estimated that Ukraine's membership, even at its pre war GDP level which has since halved, would turn even semi poor EU members such as Portugal and Czech Republic into net contributors into the EU budget.

This geo political long game being orchestrated from Washington, in addition to the ever existent little dick syndrome, largely explains Poland's irrationally exuberant support for Ukropia.
 
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Not that the Poles require a reason to hate the Russians but in this case, beyond using Ukrops as cannon fodder to degrade the Russian military threat, Poles and their American overlords have a much greater interest in getting Hohlandia into the European fold. The EU is moving away from a system of national vetoes to one of simple majorities, where votes are assigned based on national populations. 'If' Hohlandia is ever admitted into the EU, it would receive roughly 9% share of the total voting rights in the EU parliament and executive under a reformed voting arrangement. With Hohlandia as it's lapdog this would allow Poland, together with other 'Visegrad' allies to create a coalition of socially conservative, 'illiberal' Eastern European members to weaken the Franco-German axis and permanently shift the EU's political centre of gravity eastwards. This Polish led coalition would also be used to sabotage the EU's 'progressive' social agenda and align EU security and foreign policy with Poland's and Washington's (Poland is an American outpost in Eastern Europe) priorities i.e. containing Russia and keeping the Germans/French in check to maintain 'balance of power'. And most importantly for economic parasites like Poland and Ukropia, this majority could also be used to initiate and vote through financial policies forcing further transfer of funds from Western Europe to the East- it is estimated that Ukraine's membership, even at its pre war GDP level which has since halved, would turn even semi poor EU members such as Portugal and Czech Republic into net contributors into the EU budget.

This geo political long game being orchestrated from Washington, in addition to the ever existent little dick syndrome, largely explains Poland's irrationally exuberant support for Ukropia.
The Britishers did the right thing it'd appear.
 

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The Britishers did the right thing it'd appear.
Or rather, a majority of the British people voted for the right thing.

Whether the British state will eventually get to do the right thing is still in doubt - the British govt, civil servants, and the "educated" elite class have done everything possible to sabotage Brexit ever since.
 

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Or rather, a majority of the British people voted for the right thing.

Whether the British state will eventually get to do the right thing is still in doubt - the British govt, civil servants, and the "educated" elite class have done everything possible to sabotage Brexit ever since.
Yeah, as my dad keeps saying from time to time - all the important posts been taken up by educated morons.
 
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I have a suspicion: to give themself weight and significance
Or they simply hate Russia...

Remember things that have been done in past by Russian empires still have a weight on people perception.

Also for many they consider the territory captured by Russia part of Ukraine so what you are doing to general public is simply an invasion and atrocity, which can knock at their doors too.
 

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Not that the Poles require a reason to hate the Russians but in this case, beyond using Ukrops as cannon fodder to degrade the Russian military threat, Poles and their American overlords have a much greater interest in getting Hohlandia into the European fold. The EU is moving away from a system of national vetoes to one of simple majorities, where votes are assigned based on national populations. 'If' Hohlandia is ever admitted into the EU, it would receive roughly 9% share of the total voting rights in the EU parliament and executive under a reformed voting arrangement. With Hohlandia as it's lapdog this would allow Poland, together with other 'Visegrad' allies to create a coalition of socially conservative, 'illiberal' Eastern European members to weaken the Franco-German axis and permanently shift the EU's political centre of gravity eastwards. This Polish led coalition would also be used to sabotage the EU's 'progressive' social agenda and align EU security and foreign policy with Poland's and Washington's (Poland is an American outpost in Eastern Europe) priorities i.e. containing Russia and keeping the Germans/French in check to maintain 'balance of power'. And most importantly for economic parasites like Poland and Ukropia, this majority could also be used to initiate and vote through financial policies forcing further transfer of funds from Western Europe to the East- it is estimated that Ukraine's membership, even at its pre war GDP level which has since halved, would turn even semi poor EU members such as Portugal and Czech Republic into net contributors into the EU budget.

This geo political long game being orchestrated from Washington, in addition to the ever existent little dick syndrome, largely explains Poland's irrationally exuberant support for Ukropia.
so seems like the simple answer IS to keep the national veto.
 

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so seems like the simple answer IS to keep the national veto.
The veto system only worked for as long as the EU stuck to its original raison de'etre, as a fairly compact trading bloc consisting of mature 'liberal' democracies with broadly compatible, developed market economies. This stopped being the case once the organisation was weaponised by Washington (with assistance from London) for its geopolitical objectives with the expansion into Eastern Europe.

National vetoes in an expanded EU with a more explicit geo strategic orientation does not work for the main actors- it is a major barrier to Eurozone fiscal union for France, for which the main purpose of the EU has always been to keep Germany in check and financially leech off its more industrious neighbour, or for Germany and it's Northern allies for who vetoes by Eastern Europeans have been a major irritant blocking their 'progressive' social agenda and so forth. The fact that national vetoes cede too much power to bit players was illustrated only in the past month by Hungary forcing the EU's hand on Russian oil or Cyprus vetoing attempts to bar EU flagged carriers from transporting Russian crude.

For these reasons, France and Germany have been championing a move to a simple majority system for a while now but admitting a large country like Ukraine that would toe the line of other rogue Eastern members would create a bloc with a simple majority that will momentarily destroy the traditional French/ German domination of the EU and enable the poor and socially conservative East to foist all manner of self serving economic, social and security policies on the bloc.

To summarise, the EU is fucked either way- retaining national vetoes would preserve the current state of policy paralysis, leaving it vulnerable to crises particularly on the economic and security fronts in the near term, whilst abolishing it will screw it in the long term.
 

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I guess the Jamnagar refinery is now ready for and is receiving those barrels of Roosi oil :troll:
NATO being roasted
 

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I have a suspicion: to give themself weight and significance
Where do do you think rf will move after donbass, kharkhiv or towards mykolaiv & Odessa. And when do you think russia will announce mobilisation(assuming it will take time) for their southern campaign.
 

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Not that the Poles require a reason to hate the Russians but in this case, beyond using Ukrops as cannon fodder to degrade the Russian military threat, Poles and their American overlords have a much greater interest in getting Hohlandia into the European fold. The EU is moving away from a system of national vetoes to one of simple majorities, where votes are assigned based on national populations. 'If' Hohlandia is ever admitted into the EU, it would receive roughly 9% share of the total voting rights in the EU parliament and executive under a reformed voting arrangement. With Hohlandia as it's lapdog this would allow Poland, together with other 'Visegrad' allies to create a coalition of socially conservative, 'illiberal' Eastern European members to weaken the Franco-German axis and permanently shift the EU's political centre of gravity eastwards. This Polish led coalition would also be used to sabotage the EU's 'progressive' social agenda and align EU security and foreign policy with Poland's and Washington's (Poland is an American outpost in Eastern Europe) priorities i.e. containing Russia and keeping the Germans/French in check to maintain 'balance of power'. And most importantly for economic parasites like Poland and Ukropia, this majority could also be used to initiate and vote through financial policies forcing further transfer of funds from Western Europe to the East- it is estimated that Ukraine's membership, even at its pre war GDP level which has since halved, would turn even semi poor EU members such as Portugal and Czech Republic into net contributors into the EU budget.

This geo political long game being orchestrated from Washington, in addition to the ever existent little dick syndrome, largely explains Poland's irrationally exuberant support for Ukropia.
Operation Z is working against this plan of little Polish bulldogs now.. There will be a lot lot less than 44 million Ukranians in Rump Ukraine when this thing is over... :bplease:
 

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This essentially means Russia will stop selling to G7 c**ts.. Expect oil price to sky rocket.. Saudis will be c**ming right now..
I guess JP Morgan / Morgan Stanly already predicted 340$ + barrel by YoY 23 give or take, if I am not wrong! IN A SIMPLE WAY-
Rescission lurking in EU/ US, even here in India, specially IT and auto sector.
Global lower food grain yield in 21-22 and it still at large due to prolonged draught, ruso- ukri war.
GDP shrinkage in specially G7 and G20 reducing after buying power and expenditure capability, thus further enhancing global depression chance..
Saudis will have really volcanic dreams right now... :rofl: , but if they try to further milk it, I guess, Yemen launched some 3 drones to Israeli refineries yesterday, that can be repeated again in near future aiming Saudis.
 

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This essentially means Russia will stop selling to G7 c**ts.. Expect oil price to sky rocket.. Saudis will be c**ming right now..

G7 = SUICIDE SQUAD

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I guess JP Morgan / Morgan Stanly already predicted 340$ + barrel by YoY 23 give or take, if I am not wrong! IN A SIMPLE WAY-
Rescission lurking in EU/ US, even here in India, specially IT and auto sector.
Global lower food grain yield in 21-22 and it still at large due to prolonged draught, ruso- ukri war.
GDP shrinkage in specially G7 and G20 reducing after buying power and expenditure capability, thus further enhancing global depression chance..
Saudis will have really volcanic dreams right now... :rofl: , but if they try to further milk it, I guess, Yemen launched some 3 drones to Israeli refineries yesterday, that can be repeated again in near future aiming Saudis.
MBS from being ebul tyrant cutting journalist to pieces is now King of the World.
All gora country reps will do mujra in front of him.
 

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