Russia Ukraine War 2022

Who will win this war?.


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The Ukrainian dumbf**ks will probably go and reoccupy the island and get pummeled while gloating about it on twitter
that implies they have a lot of good helicopters and men and antiair defenses to come and hold it.if they attempt that the russians could detect the attempt and take out precious equipment that they require for way more important objectives.same goes for large drones too.
 

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The Ukrainian dumbf**ks will probably go and reoccupy the island and get pummeled while gloating about it on twitter
They did try it in mid May, ended up loosing couple of Mi-8s and TB-2s and dead bodies of special forces soldiers scattered across the shoreline. They learnt their lesson then itself. Now its only a propaganda thing than any tactical victory.
 

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They withdrew because it's hard to defend the island.
Also it's worthless tactically I guess.
it was useful for blockading Odessa . atleast that was what the pro russians were claiming.

Ukraine were hitting it with artillery , drones and jets .

now its a Russian peace offering.
 

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it was useful for blockading Odessa . atleast that was what the pro russians were claiming.

Ukraine were hitting it with artillery , drones and jets .

now its a Russian peace offering.
If Ukraine retakes it, Roosis will do the same :troll:
 

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it was useful for blockading Odessa . atleast that was what the pro russians were claiming.

Ukraine were hitting it with artillery , drones and jets .

now its a Russian peace offering.
I guess the Russians didn't realise that they didn't need to blockade Odessa as the Ukrainians would do it themselves with their slapdash mining of their harbour.
 

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They will "retake" it because it will help them win the social media war by claiming they won a battle for the island.
The Ukrainian troops slaughtered in the process don't matter anyway.
Ukrops want to start a Twitter trend to hide the humiliation of Lysychansk. Rooskies were getting pounded by artillery on that piece of rock anyway and have decided it can always be retaken once the Odessa offensive begins in earnest. Meanwhile they can pick off any Ukropian landings on the island using Iskanders launched from Crimea.
 

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its like saying india will lose if they take back pok completely along with askai china nad some parts of Punjab and sindh with no muzzie population transfer to india due to the fact that china,what remains of pak and the ReSt oF tHe WoRlD will sanction us.

We can take the short terms sanctons and due to the conditions of the cultures of the world today, in the long term they will all come back to the table for business.

Long term victory matters more than short term victory and in the long term all states to the west of europe and the america and uk are having strong demographic problems and cultural problems too and these trends are also supported by leadership and policy.These guys are just blustering with NATO threats,in the coming ten years there wont be much of a will to support any war effort except some capitualtion and compromise like what is going to happen in ukraine war .

Russia despite its demographic problems which are not worse than that of europe(I am not only talking about raw numbers,but also culture and other political demographic problems) does not have self-destructing hatred towards its own people and culture.

Remember,some states need to be further analyzed to see the true reality,does it matter if your gdp goes up if your country is being colonized by subhumans.
Here goes NATO's dream Rapid Reaction Army of 300K..

 

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how is it a major setback when there won't be a ukraine to join nato in the first place ?
Finland and Sweden are already deeply integrated into NATO as enhanced opportunity partners and were on their way to joining NATO soon anyway.. So, them joining a few years early is no loss, if Ukraine , the biggest European nation is neutralized..
 

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All the countries bordering baltic sea except Russia has now joined NATO



LIthuania is acting up since finland and sweden joined NATO .


Putin warning to Finland , Sweden . if Putins goal was to prevent Ukraine joining NATO (i doubt it) . this is major setback.

Ukraine formally joining NATO was irrelevant. By February 2022,Ukraine was defacto NATO.. Ukraine had already meta stasized into a potent anti-Russia threat. Between 2014 and 2022, the active Ukranian Army was increased from a few tens of thousands to around 450,000 NATO trained and equipped Army. The biggest in Europe proper..There were NATO liason officers at all levels in Ukraine, and unofficial NATO bases in Ukraine as well..
Ukraine prior to Feb 24, had good control of Azov and black sea, and good resources as well.. Russia had to act..
 

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Looks like France still follows it's WW2 tactics of pumping in weapons in penny packets. Worked well then, working well now
They don't have many CaESAR'S themselves.. France had some 70 Caesars.. They have given/pledged around 18 or more than 25 percent of their stocks..
Germany has around 100 pzh 2000, and have given 7..
US has about 1000 M-777s.. and have given around 120..
NATO doctrine is built around US Airforce, which would be more dominant than Russian Air force in war, but, the airspace would be generally contested in a NATO russia war.. So, NATO has lesser artillery, as USAF would pick more of the slack of counter battery and fixed position destruction.. Russia has an abundance of artillery, because, USAF would be more dominant, and more Russian equipment would be destroyed by USAF than the other way round..
By stripping themselves naked of limited artillery stocks, NATO is upsetting the balance, as NATO/US Airforce can't be everywhere all the time.. as these stocks take several years to rebuild..
 
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They don't have many CaESAR'S themselves.. France had some 70 Caesars.. They have given/pledged around 18 or more than 25 percent of their stocks..
Germany has around 100 pzh 2000, and have given 7..
US has about 1000 M-777s.. and have given around 120..
NATO doctrine is built around US Airforce, which would be more dominant than Russian Air force in war, but, the airspace would be generally contested in a NATO russia war.. So, NATO has lesser artillery, as USAF would pick more of the slack of counter battery and fixed position destruction.. Russia has an abundance of artillery, because, USAF would be more dominant, and more Russian equipment would be destroyed by USAF than the other way round..
By stripping themselves naked of limited artillery stocks, NATO is upsetting the balance, as NATO/US Airforce can't be everywhere all the time.. as these stocks take several years to rebuild..
NATO is placing all their eggs in one basket. Hoping the gamble pays off.
 

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Separate units of the Ukrainian army began to leave Lisichansk under the blows of Russian artillery. The Ukrainian command ordered the units to leave the city so as not to be surrounded by the Russian army. In order to minimize losses, the Armed Forces of Ukraine were ordered to retreat in small groups with a large interval and distance.” Earlier it became known that the territory of the Lisichansk oil refinery was taken under control by the forces of the Russian Army.

 

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