Russia Ukraine War 2022

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Rassil Krishnan

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I have been living in india my whole life . Never heard any talks ( pro/against ) on race , ethnicity , color , lgbtq etc in normal conversation . Online world looks like a different universe .
that is because india does not have to deal with many visibly different communities that are not closely related on a civilizational basis.

such as large group of arabs,europeans,africans,south americans,east and south east asians settling in colonies in india.

where there is some settlement encroachment based on even religion and culture like in the case of jihadis crossing borders and getting killed or rohingya settlements,just look at the comments of the average indian.

now imagine if europeans settled in places of india hypothetically in a future prosperous india for the gibs and did things like how immigrants in the west do over there.

you think the average indian would give a shit about tolerance.

our tolerance is imposed upon us and we do not really value it and it is a SHIT VALUE for a rising empire.We wont unity and better social cohesion not the mess that is the western social scene.

out tolerance is most likely imposed like a moderating rod in a nuclear reactor used to cool down our natural indian cynicism and suspicion of outsiders.

those who are free of the ghandi vision of india do not have a good view of the values of tolerance and diversity - I mean real diversity.
 

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WE IZ PASHAS N SHEEIT NOW MUH NEEGUS.
DAS RITE, WE BE GENETICALLY SIMILUH TO STEPPE MONGOLOIDS N SHEEEIT


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Unless you mean those anatolian mutts from the country called Turkey, you can bet those are genetically similar to every tribe on the planet :bplease:
Turks are not mongolians.
And even Indians are closer to mongolians genetically than the Cham.

As i said, learn some basic biology- there is a good thread on it in this very forum. And ditch your euro-fanboyistic racism. race was never a concept outside of europe, except for the jews.
 

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NATO weaponry in Ukrainian hands

Are the Ukrainians likely to win a battle to recapture the territory the Russians have taken? Probably not... ... after the siege and surrender in Mariupol, there's nothing right to report. Even the twin cities of Sievierodonetsk and Lysychansk in the eastern Luhansk region are about to fall. That $35 billion promised in military aid has not made a bit of a difference. Moreover, the vocal anti-Russian propaganda of the Western media, including financial sanctions, has not stopped the Russian invasion.

It would appear that a huge number of Western brand new arms are being sent to Ukraine. It is to help the beleaguered Ukrainian troops. Some of these have just left the shop and have not been tested on the battlefield. Hence, for the western arms merchants, it is their best opportunity to test them under battlefield conditions. The artillery guns from US (M777), Sweden (Archer), Caesar (French), PzH-2000 (German) have been sent. Learning to use in the middle of the battlefield is the key. Some have arrived and are being utilized. A lot of them need to learn how to be used. The same applies to antitank missiles. In addition to the American, British and French antitank missiles, the American M-142, High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) were offered. It will take 8-12 weeks to set them up and train them on how to use them. Also, the US President Joe Biden doesn’t want to arm the Ukrainians with weapons that can hit deep inside Russia and might indirectly escalate the war and draw the US into the war. That danger is being avoided.

The key to all these arms shipments that the Ukrainians do not need is training to use multiple weapons and reload ammunition. Both these could make or break the battle order. Ukrainian President Zelensky does not mince words when he requests weapons, but he is not a practical man and he does not understand at all the training and ammunition aspect of providing weapons. Hence all battles after the initial bravado, are lost. This deficiency cannot be redressed until NATO enters the battle and starts the WW3. The conclusion is that Zelensky has to negotiate a settlement or give up the job to someone who will spearhead negotiations.

The only people ahead will be the arms merchants who are testing their arms under battle conditions for marketing later. The sufferers are the Ukrainians who are in the middle of the war.
 

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I have been living in india my whole life . Never heard any talks ( pro/against ) on race , ethnicity , color , lgbtq etc in normal conversation . Online world looks like a different universe .
that is because race is a westoid created idea and the people here espousing 'n*gger' and all such are west-ified desis, mostly in yankeestan and too young and too stupid to know any better.
 

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Turks are not mongolians.
And even Indians are closer to mongolians genetically than the Cham.

As i said, learn some basic biology- there is a good thread on it in this very forum. And ditch your euro-fanboyistic racism. race was never a concept outside of europe, except for the jews.
who the heck cares about race here,we care about ethnicity and anyone would cosy up to you and say they believe in whatever to get gibs from your country,that does not mean we ever think of them as equal people but always people to be used and thrown.

the best setup/system to deal with foreigners and outside tribes is the arab-japan hybrid setup - bring in only a small no of highly skilled people skilled in niche categories of tech to teach our tech guys and entrepreneurs, treat the vast majority of averge to below-average - garbage humanity that is the majority in other countries as use and throw and never invite them for residency in our country if we can help it,let alone give them the franchise.

If a country containing a specific people of ethnicity or having a certain distinct ideology or religion or culture speaks favorably, don't preen over them,just use and throw them for your benefit.never feel overly attached to them and always keep a safe distance emotionally.

If an israelite like india,dont fall in love with their country or jews,just speak diplomatically and exploit the situation to get maximum benfit for our tribe.Basically be like the chinese.

Here I am setting an example,I admire chinese approach to foreigners and muzzies,that does not mean I assume the chinese would like me and go hindi-cheeni bahai bhai,nor do I fanboy ovr them.They are just an object to glean lessons and for us to grow from.
 

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who the heck cares about race here,we care about ethnicity and anyone would cosy up to you and say they believe in whatever to get gibs from your country,that does not mean we ever think of them as equal people but always people to be used and thrown.
Tell that your fanbois using the n-word and such.

the best setup/system to deal with foreigners and outside tribes is the arab-japan hybrid setup - bring in only a small no of highly skilled people skilled in niche categories of tech to teach our tech guys and entrepreneurs, treat the vast majority of averge to below-average - garbage humanity that is the majority in other countries as use and throw and never invite them for residency in our country if we can help it,let alone give them the franchise.
Not much of an argument there, except ofcourse, via marriage.

If a country containing a specific people of ethnicity or having a certain distinct ideology or religion or culture speaks favorably, don't preen over them,just use and throw them for your benefit.never feel overly attached to them and always keep a safe distance emotionally.
And that is the westoid in you speaking, not our ancestors.

If an israelite like india,dont fall in love with their country or jews,just speak diplomatically and exploit the situation to get maximum benfit for our tribe.Basically be like the chinese.
By the chinese you mean the CCP and your caricature of the chinese. Since you have hardly interacted with the chinese populace, i am not surprised.
 
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NATO weaponry in Ukrainian hands

Are the Ukrainians likely to win a battle to recapture the territory the Russians have taken? Probably not... ... after the siege and surrender in Mariupol, there's nothing right to report. Even the twin cities of Sievierodonetsk and Lysychansk in the eastern Luhansk region are about to fall. That $35 billion promised in military aid has not made a bit of a difference. Moreover, the vocal anti-Russian propaganda of the Western media, including financial sanctions, has not stopped the Russian invasion.

It would appear that a huge number of Western brand new arms are being sent to Ukraine. It is to help the beleaguered Ukrainian troops. Some of these have just left the shop and have not been tested on the battlefield. Hence, for the western arms merchants, it is their best opportunity to test them under battlefield conditions. The artillery guns from US (M777), Sweden (Archer), Caesar (French), PzH-2000 (German) have been sent. Learning to use in the middle of the battlefield is the key. Some have arrived and are being utilized. A lot of them need to learn how to be used. The same applies to antitank missiles. In addition to the American, British and French antitank missiles, the American M-142, High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) were offered. It will take 8-12 weeks to set them up and train them on how to use them. Also, the US President Joe Biden doesn’t want to arm the Ukrainians with weapons that can hit deep inside Russia and might indirectly escalate the war and draw the US into the war. That danger is being avoided.

The key to all these arms shipments that the Ukrainians do not need is training to use multiple weapons and reload ammunition. Both these could make or break the battle order. Ukrainian President Zelensky does not mince words when he requests weapons, but he is not a practical man and he does not understand at all the training and ammunition aspect of providing weapons. Hence all battles after the initial bravado, are lost. This deficiency cannot be redressed until NATO enters the battle and starts the WW3. The conclusion is that Zelensky has to negotiate a settlement or give up the job to someone who will spearhead negotiations.

The only people ahead will be the arms merchants who are testing their arms under battle conditions for marketing later. The sufferers are the Ukrainians who are in the middle of the war.
There are a few questions to the western generosity??

Is everything promises being delivered???
Are the deliveries being made at one time???
Will the west keep supporting a failing cause ????
What have the results been of the NATO arms???
Any territory regained??? Russia pushed back??
Is Europe ok with sacrificing it’s economy for Ukraine??
Will NATO and EU still be intact as the war rages and Russia gains more territory??

This war is a test for NATO; it is easy to fight brown people far away in different lands ( and still lose). But what happens when the war is at your doorstep??????
 

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German vice chancellor doing his bit to defeat evil Poo-tin🤣🤣🤣. Feel sorry for his colleagues who have to share an office or sit next to him 🤣🤣. All this carries of whiff of desparation though- there are news reports this morning that Germany is preparing for a 3-4 fold jump in domestic gas prices this winter. Think the clock is really ticking for Europe
Lavrov made a statement today comparing EU to Europe under Hitler, before the invasion of USSR..
 

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What a good move from MODI :


"But Russia has not said its last word and to mitigate the economic consequences of these sanctions, the country is now turning to the Brics (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa). Moscow is "actively redirecting its trade flows and external economic contacts towards reliable international partners, above all towards the Brics countries", explained Vladimir Putin, on Wednesday, addressing participants at the Brics Economic Forum on the eve of a virtual summit of these countries.

Read also: The Russian economy sinks inexorably into recession

Increase in cooperation, especially on oil

In detail, the head of state affirmed Russia's willingness to develop with its Brics partners "alternative mechanisms of international transfers" and an "international reserve currency" to reduce dependence on the dollar and the euro. Already in 2015, Vladimir Putin had ratified an agreement on the creation of a common reserve fund for the Brics and signed by them to overcome the domination of the United States on international financial institutions.

He also announced that "talks on opening Indian retail chains in Russia and increasing the share of Chinese cars (...) on the Russian market are underway". "Russian oil deliveries to China and India are increasing. Agricultural cooperation is developing dynamically", as well as the export of Russian fertilizers to the Brics countries, according to the Russian president. Beijing's imports of Russian oil jumped by 55% in May over a year, according to official figures published by Chinese customs on Monday. Specifically, 8.42 million tons of oil were purchased by the Asian giant, much more than imports from Saudi Arabia, usually the first supplier of the country. Indian imports are also growing strongly. The country and South Africa abstained from voting on a UN resolution condemning Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

For those who haven't been following : the BRICS are being dragged around the world at the moment and in particular India which is coming out of a bunch of meetings in QUAD format with Australia and especially the US.

This article misses the point. India by not choosing its side allows a lot of other countries to follow its example. It is not only the BRICS but also the ARABBIC and African countries. India will find itself at the interface of the bad guys and the good guys and is already starting to feel the economical effects.

But this strategic gain is going to have to be defended in particular against China which is not going to appreciate finding itself facing a new economic giant directly on its border.

This is exactly what I predicted and what I hoped for. India does not want to take a stand and is dragging a lot of countries behind it. As a result, it will become a world power, at least in economic terms. It seems that France has chosen the right horse.
I really thanks MODI and India to hold this position.
 

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What a good move from MODI :


"But Russia has not said its last word and to mitigate the economic consequences of these sanctions, the country is now turning to the Brics (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa). Moscow is "actively redirecting its trade flows and external economic contacts towards reliable international partners, above all towards the Brics countries", explained Vladimir Putin, on Wednesday, addressing participants at the Brics Economic Forum on the eve of a virtual summit of these countries.

Read also: The Russian economy sinks inexorably into recession

Increase in cooperation, especially on oil

In detail, the head of state affirmed Russia's willingness to develop with its Brics partners "alternative mechanisms of international transfers" and an "international reserve currency" to reduce dependence on the dollar and the euro. Already in 2015, Vladimir Putin had ratified an agreement on the creation of a common reserve fund for the Brics and signed by them to overcome the domination of the United States on international financial institutions.

He also announced that "talks on opening Indian retail chains in Russia and increasing the share of Chinese cars (...) on the Russian market are underway". "Russian oil deliveries to China and India are increasing. Agricultural cooperation is developing dynamically", as well as the export of Russian fertilizers to the Brics countries, according to the Russian president. Beijing's imports of Russian oil jumped by 55% in May over a year, according to official figures published by Chinese customs on Monday. Specifically, 8.42 million tons of oil were purchased by the Asian giant, much more than imports from Saudi Arabia, usually the first supplier of the country. Indian imports are also growing strongly. The country and South Africa abstained from voting on a UN resolution condemning Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

For those who haven't been following : the BRICS are being dragged around the world at the moment and in particular India which is coming out of a bunch of meetings in QUAD format with Australia and especially the US.

This article misses the point. India by not choosing its side allows a lot of other countries to follow its example. It is not only the BRICS but also the ARABBIC and African countries. India will find itself at the interface of the bad guys and the good guys and is already starting to feel the economical effects.

But this strategic gain is going to have to be defended in particular against China which is not going to appreciate finding itself facing a new economic giant directly on its border.

This is exactly what I predicted and what I hoped for. India does not want to take a stand and is dragging a lot of countries behind it. As a result, it will become a world power, at least in economic terms. It seems that France has chosen the right horse.
I really thanks MODI and India to hold this position.
And we thank your country for holding it's independent stance (as much as it is able to). Your resistance to total anglo domination will serve your country well.
 

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What a good move from MODI :


"But Russia has not said its last word and to mitigate the economic consequences of these sanctions, the country is now turning to the Brics (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa). Moscow is "actively redirecting its trade flows and external economic contacts towards reliable international partners, above all towards the Brics countries", explained Vladimir Putin, on Wednesday, addressing participants at the Brics Economic Forum on the eve of a virtual summit of these countries.

Read also: The Russian economy sinks inexorably into recession

Increase in cooperation, especially on oil

In detail, the head of state affirmed Russia's willingness to develop with its Brics partners "alternative mechanisms of international transfers" and an "international reserve currency" to reduce dependence on the dollar and the euro. Already in 2015, Vladimir Putin had ratified an agreement on the creation of a common reserve fund for the Brics and signed by them to overcome the domination of the United States on international financial institutions.

He also announced that "talks on opening Indian retail chains in Russia and increasing the share of Chinese cars (...) on the Russian market are underway". "Russian oil deliveries to China and India are increasing. Agricultural cooperation is developing dynamically", as well as the export of Russian fertilizers to the Brics countries, according to the Russian president. Beijing's imports of Russian oil jumped by 55% in May over a year, according to official figures published by Chinese customs on Monday. Specifically, 8.42 million tons of oil were purchased by the Asian giant, much more than imports from Saudi Arabia, usually the first supplier of the country. Indian imports are also growing strongly. The country and South Africa abstained from voting on a UN resolution condemning Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

For those who haven't been following : the BRICS are being dragged around the world at the moment and in particular India which is coming out of a bunch of meetings in QUAD format with Australia and especially the US.

This article misses the point. India by not choosing its side allows a lot of other countries to follow its example. It is not only the BRICS but also the ARABBIC and African countries. India will find itself at the interface of the bad guys and the good guys and is already starting to feel the economical effects.

But this strategic gain is going to have to be defended in particular against China which is not going to appreciate finding itself facing a new economic giant directly on its border.

This is exactly what I predicted and what I hoped for. India does not want to take a stand and is dragging a lot of countries behind it. As a result, it will become a world power, at least in economic terms. It seems that France has chosen the right horse.
I really thanks MODI and India to hold this position.
What is indias perception in France right now due to this crisis ?
 

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