Russia Is Actually Abandoning The Dollar

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@pmaitra what are upur thoughts regrading below points


Why china is promoting 2 banks at same time AIIB and BRICS ... I mean china can/should concentrate on one at time...

IT looks like china wants to control banks functioning so in future they might close/leave BRICS and promote AAIB instead ...

I mean at BRICS it doesnt/wont have free hand while in AAIB it would have such free hand ....

Major western countries are becoming members of AIIB but not RUssia
I am not sure, but my guess would be similar to yours. Let's ask @t_co and @nimo_cn.

Anyway, why don't you read this article and try to answer my question after reading the article? http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/europe-russia/61895-civil-war-ukraine-881.html#post1020118
 
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Where are we in this mix? Is India building up strategic gold reserves too? Building up USD reserves bigger than what we have will be suicidal.

China is smart to rapidly convert its $2 trillion reserves of USD into gold by rapid purchase.

During the time when our currency was backed by gold, Indian currency value was far more respectable than the nothingness that we have now versus the dollar. Even among BRICS, our currency value versus the dollar is the least. South Africa has a higher value than ours despite being a tiny state with 20% unemployment and an economic stagnation.
 

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Where are we in this mix? Is India building up strategic gold reserves too? Building up USD reserves bigger than what we have will be suicidal.

China is smart to rapidly convert its $2 trillion reserves of USD into gold by rapid purchase.

During the time when our currency was backed by gold, Indian currency value was far more respectable than the nothingness that we have now versus the dollar. Even among BRICS, our currency value versus the dollar is the least. South Africa has a higher value than ours despite being a tiny state with 20% unemployment and an economic stagnation.
A lot of India's gold is sitting in England and Switzerland in violation of India's laws, and looks like the Reserve Bank of India has not bothered to answer a PIL on Bombay High Court, last time I checked: http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...9661-negligence-rbi-criminal-culpability.html

I have already asked @sayareakd Sir to see if he can get some details on this PIL, but he hasn't answered me yet. :(
 
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Financial independence and real self-reliance has several factors linked to it. Take, for example, payment gateways, which are dominated by Master/Visa and Amex. Its really a monopolistic cartel, there is no other word for it. The US can squeeze our balls anytime by cutting off all card transactions in India, blocking our access to payment gateways.

We need to get RuPay going fast. I am disappointed by the lackluster push and slow adoption of RuPay.

There are a million small ways like this by which the West (US especially) can squeeze any nation's balls with great ease. It will take time to break out of the stranglehold.
 

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I am not sure, but my guess would be similar to yours. Let's ask @t_co and @nimo_cn.

Anyway, why don't you read this article and try to answer my question after reading the article? http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/europe-russia/61895-civil-war-ukraine-881.html#post1020118
The AIIB and BRICSBank serve different financial roles.

The AIIB makes loans into infrastructure projects. The loans it makes have a long duration and partially subsidized interest rates, and are collateralized by the infrastructure being built by the money lent. It is roughly equivalent to the ADB or World Bank.

The BRICSBank makes loans into whole countries when the country is in distress due to a shortage of short-term foreign reserves. The loans it makes have shorter durations and higher interest rates, are collateralized by the country's foreign reserves or gold stockpile, and stipulate macroeconomic reforms (lower government spending, tax reform in favor of businesses, higher tax rates on individuals). It is roughly equivalent to the IMF.
 
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Putin Calls for Currency Union between Russia and Ex-Soviet States

President Vladimir Putin proposed on Friday creating a regional currency union with Belarus and Kazakhstan, Russia's partners in a political and economic union made up of former Soviet republics.

Putin made his proposal at a meeting with the Belarusian and Kazakh presidents which highlighted the challenges facing the Russian-led Eurasian Economic Union following the fall in global oil prices and the decline of the Russian ruble.

"The time has come to start thinking about forming a currency union," Putin said after the talks in the Kazakh capital Astana with Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko and Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev.

He gave no details of the proposal but suggested it would be easier to meet economic challenges by working closely together.

Lukashenko and Nazarbayev did not immediately respond to the proposal in public, but analysts say it is unlikely to get off the ground.

Kazakhstan, the second-largest post-Soviet oil producer and economy after Russia, has traditionally been lukewarm to the idea of introducing a common currency, saying that first the three nations should synchronize their monetary policies.

Grigory Marchenko, a key Kazakh reformer and former central bank head, has estimated that it would take 10 to 12 years before such a currency is launched.

The Russian ruble's decline has hit former Soviet trading partners such as Belarus and Kazakhstan.



The Russian ruble has declined by about 40 percent against the U.S. dollar since midway through last year, Belarus devalued its own ruble in January and there has been speculation on markets that Kazakhstan may soon devalue its tenge currency.

Putin Calls for Currency Union between Russia and Ex-Soviet States - Russia Insider
 

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The Petrocurrency War

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in 2007 had supposedly asked ex-Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd "how do you get tough on your banker?" This was over concerns about China's growing power and hold on US finances and according to Wikileaks Rudd told Clinton to keep force as a last resort. Do the Chinese trust the Americans? As superpowers, both are wary of each other. The business of America has always been business, not friendship or the interest of others in mind except their very own. That is understandable. About the American hubris- I once read somewhere that hubris was the downfall of a Greek hero in some classical tragedy.

We are entering a new era- the era of a currency war that will test the might of the US economy and the dollar against the might of the Chinese economy and the yuan. The rope in the tug of war will be crude oil. The US economy based hegemony is being challenged by China and therefore it is naturally given that the US will try to maintain its global geopolitical and financial position. Between the giants, the global financial system could end up being completely redefined through a devastating war in the Middle East.

Some years ago I'd read a book "Petrodollar Warfare" by William Clark.
The book was published in 2005 when the euro was a rising currency and China's yuan was a distant dream. Clark had written that the rationale for intervening (in Iraq) was not just for control of oilfields, but also for the control of the means by which oil is traded in global markets. Saddam was deposed by the US and its Arab allies (who held US$ as their reserve currencies) because he refused to sell oil in US$ alone. The same fate was meted to Libya's Gaddafi. Now Iran is in the American crosshairs not because it is purportedly developing a nuclear bomb which the CIA itself has denied but because it has been selling oil in several currencies from its Kish Island bourse. China is buying oil in international markets from countries that are willing to accept the yuan. Based on the US Energy Information (EIA), China in 2013 became the number two oil importer at 6.2 million bbls/day (MMBOPD), just slightly behind that of the US at 6.6 MMBOPD. Again, as per the EIA, China will become the largest importer of oil in 2014-15. Not only that but China's oil production from overseas equity shares through acquisitions increased from a meagre 150,000 BOPD in 2005 to 2.7 MMBOPD in 2013.

China has been importing 52% of its crude oil from the Middle East (including 10% from Iran and 20% from Saudi Arabia) while on the flip side the US has reduced its imports from Saudi Arabia to 16% while the imports from Canada have been steadily increasing over the years. In 2010 US oil production was 9.7 MMBOPD and consumption was 19.2 MMBOPD. That balance changed in 2014 as oil production increased to 13.4 MMBOPD due to shale oil while consumption has actually decreased to 18.7 MMBOPD due to alternate energy and fuel efficiency. Net imports, therefore, further decreased in 2014 by 1.3 MMBOPD (source: EIA)

For over 40 years the US$ has been enjoying an unprecedented and guaranteed position as the world's global currency reserve. In 1971, President Richard Nixon ordered the cancellation of the direct convertibility of the United States dollar to gold due to heavy inflation caused by the Vietnam war, trade deficit and the rising price of oil which made the dollar worth less than the price of gold used to back it from the Bretton Woods that all other currencies (including the British pound) to be indirectly linked to the gold standard wherein the Central Banks would trade gold among themselves at an agreed peg of US$35/ troy oz. Immediately after this, Nixon negotiated with Saudi Arabia that all oil prices would, in future, be denominated in US$s thus delinking from the metallic yellow gold standard to the fluid black gold standard in return for arms sales and protection. All thirteen OPEC countries including Iran adopted the sale of oil in US dollar. This allowed the US to export much of its inflation.

In January 2015, the Bank of International Settlements (BIS) issued a paper titled Global dollar credit: links to US monetary policy and leverage outlining "that since the global financial crisis (of 2008), banks and bond investors have increased the outstanding US dollar credit to non-bank borrowers outside the United States from $6 trillion to $9 trillion (and up from $2 trillion in 2001). This increase due to quantitative easing (QE) by US Federal Reserve Bank has implications for understanding global liquidity and monetary policy transmission". The report explores the horrifying and addictive scale of global debt in US dollars. In layman language the debt is a direct result of the US printing of dollars since 2008.

According to SWIFT (Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication) China's yuan became one of the world's top five payment currencies in November 2014, overtaking the Canadian dollar and the Australian dollar. Global yuan payments increased by 20.3 percent in value in December 2014. CIPS (China International Payments System) will also put the yuan on a more even footing with other major global currencies like the U.S. dollar, yen, pound sterling and euro. It is possible that in a few short years the yuan will share the same position with the dollar as the petrocurrency with the price of oil being quoted in both yuan and dollar. This will cause a massive migration of dollars to head back into the US from foreign countries and foreign investors resulting in hyperinflation.

Currency-WarHaving explained the impact the yuan in a few years and global debt addiction due to the US QE policies, we turn our attention to the new CIPS to be launched by end of 2015 as an alternative to SWIFT which links more than 9000 financial institutions in over 200 countries for facilitating global currency transactions. As per a Reuters report of 9 March 2015 "the launch of the CIPS will remove one of the biggest hurdles to internationalizing the yuan and should greatly increase global usage of the Chinese currency by cutting transaction costs and processing times". Reuters mentioned that "CIPS will become the superhighway for the yuan".

Under above scenarios, the 40 years of political and economic marriage of convenience between Saudi Arabia and the US would likely change. Iran could well emerge as the regional Middle East superpower and a close Chinese and Russian ally under the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) – a new OPEC with nuclear bombs as suggested in brevity by Professor David Wall in Matthew Brummer's Journal of International Affairs The Shanghai Cooperation Organization and Iran: A Power-Full Union. Could that well lead to World War 3 or history may refer to it as "the petrocurrency war"?

Gulam Asgar Mitha is a retired Techinal Safety Engineer. He has worked with several N. American and International oil and gas companies. He has worked in Libya, Qatar, Pakistan, France, Yemen and UAE. Currently Gulam lives in Calgary, Canada and enjoys reading and keeping in tune with current global political issues. Exclusive for ORIENTAL REVIEW.

The Petrocurrency War | Oriental Review
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Who's Isolated Now? Kazakhstan Authorities Announce Plans To De-Dollarize Economy

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 03/04/2015

Following the approval of the government, Kazakhstan's Central Bank has announced it plans to de-dollarize its economy by the end of 2016. The goal is to avoid the macroeconomic instability that the USD creates and to give priority to Tenge in trade agreements (banning price designations in foreign exchange). Coming just 2 weeks after the ratification of the $100 billion BRICS bank, and Russia's creation of a SWIFT-alternative, one wonders - as one by one foreign nations agree non-dollar trade and swap agreements - who is becoming 'isolated' now?

Who's Isolated Now? Kazakhstan Authorities Announce Plans To De-Dollarize Economy | Zero Hedge
 

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Chinese promised that they lower down the share to 20% eventually.
lots of western country are in AIIB and i am aware half of them only joined to stalled this bank so their hegemony won't be in trouble so beware my friend.
 

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All of the countries joining China's alternative to the World Bank
Update: Since this post was published, Finland has also announced it is applying to join.

Russia, the Netherlands, and Australia announced over the weekend that they will be joining the Chinese-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB), whose membership has become something of a test of diplomatic clout between China and the United States. The development bank is seen as a challenger to existing institutions like the World Bank or the Asian Development Bank.

Unable to increase its voice in the current institutions—China commands just 6.47% of the vote in the Asian Development Bank, 5.17% in the World Bank, and 3.81% in the International Monetary Fund—China is building its own alternative. The bank is intended to make up for the gap in funding the region needs—about $800 billion a year in infrastructure investment, according to the Asian Development Bank. It is expected to launch later this year.

So far, just over 40 countries have joined AIIB, with one day left before the deadline to join as a founding member expires. The United States and only one of its main allies, Japan, remain absent from that list. The US and other critics question whether the Beijing-led institution will uphold international standards of transparency, debt sustainability, and environmental and social protections, or just turn into an arm of Chinese foreign policy. Last week, Japan's finance minister said, "Unless [China] clarifies these matters, which are not clear at all, Japan remains cautious."

But as more countries join the bank, the more likely AIIB will have to follow international standards, observers have noted, and the less likely China will be able to use a multilateral institution to wield influence in the region. Here are all the countries that have joined or applied to join the AIIB aside from Spain, which said late last week that it would also apply to be a member (link in Spanish), and South Korea.


http://qz.com/372326/all-the-countries-that-are-joining-chinas-alternative-to-the-world-bank/
 

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Do update on current countries list and also yesterday was last date to be founder member so how's the list look like :?
Besides those Asian countries, England, France, German, Italy, Swiss, Austria, Holland, Denmark, Australia, New Zealand and Brazil, Russia also joined in.
In other words, this is the first international financial organization excluding USA.
I hear something is cracking.
 

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Besides those Asian countries, England, France, German, Italy, Swiss, Austria, Holland, Denmark, Australia, New Zealand and Brazil, Russia also joined in.
In other words, this is the first international financial organization excluding USA.
I hear something is cracking.
So far these countries decided to join



Also this is ownership distribution



Now explain me how is this Asian bank while asian have same ownership percentage as European/rest of the world. Both Asian and rest has 25 % ownership so how this is going to benefit asian as so far i see this is china hegemony bank while it control 50% ownership :|

Even USA has 16.75 % in IMF so far seems like this bank is nothing but china try to put hegemony over whole asia?

When this was announced last october this was the prefix

Voting rights are to be decided after consultations among the members over fixing the bench marks which were expected to be combination of GDP and Purchasing Power Parity (PPP).
Based on this formula, India will be second largest share holder of the bank after China.
Has those changed?
 
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China's SWIFT Alternative and the Death of the Dollar

Forget all the nonsense and hoopla about the Apple Watch or the GM stock buy-back. Far and away the most important economic story of the week is one you won't find on the front page of Bloomberg or MarketWatch. New reports indicate that China is ready to launch its SWIFT alternative, and for those who have their ear to the ground this is the most significant move yet in the unfolding process of de-dollarization that is seeing the BRICS-led "resistance bloc" breaking away from the financial stranglehold of the US-led "Washington Consensus."

For those who don't know, SWIFT stands for the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication and is shorthand for the SWIFTNet Network that is used by over 10,500 financial institutions in 215 countries and territories to transmit financial transaction data around the world. SWIFT does not do any of the clearing or processing for these transactions itself, but instead sends the payment orders that are then settled by correspondent banks of the member institutions. Still, given the system's near universality in the financial system, it means that virtually every international transaction between banking institutions goes through the SWIFT network.

This is why de-listing from the SWIFT network remains one of the primary financial weapons wielded by the US and its allies in their increasingly important financial warfare campaigns. In 2012, SWIFT agreed to de-list 30 Iranian financial institutions (including the central bank) from their network as part of the US/EU-led sanctions on Tehran, a move that was meant to stop billions of dollars' worth of oil and export sales from being repatriated into the country and bring Iranian business to a standstill. Throughout the recent tensions between the US bloc and Russia over the civil war in Ukraine, the idea that SWIFT could similarly de-list Russian banks has been repeatedly floated as a potential next step for the US and its allies.

Of course, SWIFT is nominally "independent" from any government entity and thus does not have to follow the dictates of Washington or anyone else pursuing their own personal vendettas in the financial arena. In practice, however, SWIFT put up no resistance whatsoever and obligingly complied with the Iranian sanctions request despite the fact that the blockade was repeatedly ruled illegal by the EU's own courts. Does anyone doubt that, despite their protestations to the contrary, they would do any different if push came to shove with Russia? This is precisely why Moscow, Beijing and other countries in the cross hairs have been floating ideas of their own, namely the creation of an alternative payment network that bypasses SWIFT.

Now it seems that talk is materializing into something very real. Called the China International Payment System, the CIPS network is meant to facilitate cross-border transactions specifically in yuan and the latest reports suggest that the system is already in place and could be launched as early as this September.

If and when CIPS is launched, the results could be world historical in nature. Firstly it provides the Kremlin and other US/EU/NATO/Israeli enemies a potential alternative safe haven from the crippling sanctions that hang over their head in the current environment. Secondly, it brings the yuan one step closer to being a fully-convertible currency, something that Beijing has been scrambling to achieve since the currency was rejected from the IMF's SDR basket following the last reconsideration of that basket in 2010. And finally, it further solidifies China as the center of the worldwide "resistance bloc" to the current status quo.

It's hard to underestimate just how important CIPS will be to making the yuan a major player on the global stage. Rather than having to clear yuan payments through correspondent banks in China or through specially designated clearing houses in Hong Kong or Europe or elsewhere, payments will now be nearly instantaneous through any CIPS-listed financial institution anywhere in the world.

Sadly, most alternative news outlets will end their analysis here, as if the creation of this alternate payment system in opposition to the US/EU/NATO/Israeli superpower's hegemon is an unmitigated good. But such an analysis relies on the assumption that the BRICS resistance bloc has motivations and intentions that are truly different than the existing power structure, and not merely rivalrous to it. As viewers of The Corbett Report's podcast on "China and the New World Order" will note, China has been carefully positioned over the course of the past half century to be the "engine of the New World Order" and many of the (nominally) "American" oligarchs and political power-players who helped construct the current status quo have been puppeteering and overseeing the rise of the Chinese dragon since the days of Mao. And as we have discussed before, the players who have been dominating world finance for decades (if not centuries) are not stupid; they are deliberately engineering the West's downfall in order to bring about their dreamed-of world governmental and world financial system.

Now those who are concerned about the US-bloc's superpower status and its seemingly monolithic control over the highly-centralized financial system represented by institutions like SWIFT are being asked to put their faith in an "alternative" system of centralized control that happens to be in the hands of Beijing. But let's imagine that, somehow, in some way, the Chinese Communists were actually artfully deluding the Kissingers and the Brzezinskis and the other paymasters and chessmasters of China's economic "miracle" and actually did intend to use their new-found power for themselves. To what end would they possibly use it? As a series of billboards popping up around Bangkok and other locations in recent months suggest, it is nothing less than to create a "New World Currency" to further consolidate their power on the international stage. Meet the New New World Order, same as the Old New World Order. Either way, all you get is centralized power-hungry tyrants lording over centralized bureaucracies like the IMF, the World Bank, the SDR, SWIFT, CIPS, the BRICS bank or the "people's currency" of the yuan.

But what if there was a truly alternative way around the SWIFT hegemon?

As it turns out, many Iranian banks have circumvented the SWIFT sanction in an almost embarrassingly simple way. Instead of using the SWIFT system to send and receive their payment orders, they simply pick up the phone or send an email. Yes, it is less efficient and takes a bit longer to do, but it works just as well and there's nothing that SWIFT or anyone else can do to prevent banks from communicating directly with one another. Chalk this extremely simple workaround up as another victory for the concept of the "peer-to-peer economy" that we talked about in these pages in recent weeks. When people (or organizations or institutions) can communicate directly, instantaneously and globally, the need for centralized bureaucracies like "SWIFT" or "CIPS" disappears just as assuredly as the horse-and-buggy or the zeppelin disappeared with the advent of the modern car or airplane.

Keep your eye on these pages for more on the CIPS system as it develops, and keep your eye on The Corbett Report podcast for an upcoming episode where I delve into the not-so-happy reality of "The BRICS and the New World Order."

https://www.corbettreport.com/chinas-swift-alternative-and-the-engineered-death-of-the-dollar/
 

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Medvedev in Vietnam: Free Trade, De-Dollarization, Oil Projects
Moscow and Hanoi are looking to increase trade which currently amounts to 2.5 bn per annum

Russia Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev is on a 2-day visit to Vietnam. It could be an important one as Medvedev has raised a number of prospects for closer economic ties:

To begin with, a free trade deal between Vietnam and the Eurasian Economic Union is on the horizon and could be signed later this year:

Talks between the Eurasian Economic Union and Vietnam on creating a free trade area have entered the final stage as only industrial processing and services remain to be approved, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev told Vietnamese media outlets in the run-up to his visit to that southeastern Asian country.

"I have just discussed the issue with the Economic Development Minister, and he told me that our talks with Vietnam have entered the final stage," Medvedev said. "We've moved forward on many issues and intend to conclude these talks in the near future."

Medvedev said that the document may become the first agreement the EEU will sign with a third country.

Furthermore, Russia PM will propose conducting more trade in national currencies:

Russia and Vietnam can easily switch to their national currencies - the Russian rouble and the Vietnamese dong - in mutual settlements, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said in an interview with the Vietnamese media ahead of his visit to that country.

"First, there are no obstacles to making settlements in roubles and dongs. None from the legal point of view," he said. "But we need an economic reason for this."

He said the two countries had agreed about possible use of their national currencies in mutual settlements about a decade ago and had even established a special bank for that. "But using national currencies is only suitable when the volume of mutual trade is high and you need to accumulate resources in roubles or dongs," the Russian prime minister noted. "So far, these settlements only account for about 1.5% of trade, with all the other settlements made in US dollars, which is not always advantageous."

"In this sense, it could be more profitable to make mutual settlements in our national currencies, namely in trade and investment," Medvedev said. "I think there is a good opportunity to do this also in relations with Vietnam. I will definitely raise this issue at the upcoming talks with my Vietnamese partners.".

Finally, Medvedev wants to see more Vietnamese investment in Russia oil sector and is offering corresponding incentives:


Moscow has prepared a special proposal for companies from Vietnam to participate in hydrocarbon projects in Russia, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said in an interview with Vietnamese media ahead of his visit to the Southeast Asian country.

"We invite foreign partners to take part in exploration and production in the Russian Federation only rarely. The system is working smoothly as it is. This option has been devised especially for our Vietnamese partners," the Russian premier said.

Russia's Zarubezhneft and Vietnam's PetroVietnam are already implementing joint projects while Rosneft and Gazprom have partners of their own in Vietnam and each has been negotiating cooperation agreements, Medvedev said.

Russia also wants to participate in Vietnam's oil sector:

The two leaders witnessed the signing of several energy cooperation agreements including Russia's Gazprom Neft's intention to buy 49 percent of a 6.5 million-ton oil refinery in central Vietnam which is operational.

Dung said the two leaders agreed on the expansion of cooperation in oil and gas projects in Vietnam's exclusive economic zone and continental shelf in the East Sea, which is the Vietnamese term for the South China Sea.


Medvedev in Vietnam: Free Trade, De-Dollarization, Oil Projects
 

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