Russia becomes part of CPEC???

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Now Pakis are spreading some tele-talks TRUMP-Nawaz had.

As per Pakis it was Nawaz who called TRUMP after so many days.How come Nawaz he didn't congratulate him right after TRUMP got elected? May be pakis were in a state of shock and knows that Pakis cant live without old Abba.

We all know what TRUMP thinks of Pakis and Terrorism specially recent attack in US linked to Pakistan again.

It seems like either all this "terrific" was all FAKE or TRUMP was TROLLING Nawaz and Nawaz got all excited and got instant orgasm and posted it online. Pakis foreign office explained that they have very nice relations with US and that explains. :lol:

Just saw CNN that former high diplomat rubbished the claim by Pakis and in case it's true then it' a breach of simple code of conduct between 2 heads of state which can't be done unilaterally by one side.

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what has india one about realisinng the claim to GBaltistan ?
nothing
what has india done about helping balochs, sindhis, Mhajirs ?
only words , no action so far

upa did nothing , nda has not done differently
madness is expecting things to change when doing the same

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Indus water treaty change or withdrawal is the way to go as nda is proposing
....but china built the karakorum highway before talking about cpec
the most important ppart of cpec was this KKH connection

in india however, we talk first , give the game away
and then the action is so slow to arrive
recently on time now
gen Jaswal warned pak that balkanization is on the cards
gave the game away
talk without action

are we making a name for ourselves ?

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Russia will support China no matter what, even if it goes against India's wishes. And for a multi-polar world, such a union is required. US monopoly has made this world unstable. Look at how effectively Russia-China cooperation has 'defeated' US designs in Syria.
Unfortunately, India has become a pawn in the Big Game.
Chacha N will be spinning in his grave right now.
 

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Russia will support China no matter what, even if it goes against India's wishes. And for a multi-polar world, such a union is required. US monopoly has made this world unstable. Look at how effectively Russia-China cooperation has 'defeated' US designs in Syria.
Unfortunately, India has become a pawn in the Big Game.
Chacha N will be spinning in his grave right now.
As long as Russia continues to sell us weapons and cooperate in defence and stays neutral in war, we have nothing to fear.
 

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As long as Russia continues to sell us weapons
Due to their near bankruptcy, they will continue to sell us weapons, with the tacit approval of China, ofcourse.

stays neutral in war
Very doubtful. Though they may not point their guns at us, don't be surprised if Russia brings 'certain' pressure on us to back off in the unlikely event of us planning a war with porkies. We cannot expect a 1971-style Russi support any more.

China is solidly behind Pak. Now Russia will have to dance to chinese tunes. Regional dynamics have changed, irreversably. Since we cannot depend on Yankees in hour of need, we are now suddenly alone.
 

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If India gets into agreement with OMAN for Duqm port development, the strategic importance of Gwadar will go off
 

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Due to their near bankruptcy, they will continue to sell us weapons, with the tacit approval of China, ofcourse.


Very doubtful. Though they may not point their guns at us, don't be surprised if Russia brings 'certain' pressure on us to back off in the unlikely event of us planning a war with porkies. We cannot expect a 1971-style Russi support any more.

China is solidly behind Pak. Now Russia will have to dance to chinese tunes. Regional dynamics have changed, irreversably. Since we cannot depend on Yankees in hour of need, we are now suddenly alone.
I dont see future to be that dark. Russia is not going to intervene in war. They will stay neutral. US has already recognized India as defence partner. Even if Russians do not support it is unlikely that they will oppose India by using their veto power. Indians need to use Russian defence tech. India cancelling MiG 35, Mi 28 has angered Russia a lot. I think India should buy MiG 29 UPG and K lisense from Russia. India needs to keep Russia happy by buying Russian defence tech. Rafael however is quite expensive. We can buy Mirage 2000's license to keep France happy.

One thing is now India has attained much self-reliance. And no war is going to happen. Except Cold War between India and China. US will firmly support India against China and we can easily divert US tech they gave us to counter China against Pak.
 

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I dont see future to be that dark. Russia is not going to intervene in war. They will stay neutral. US has already recognized India as defence partner...........
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being defence partner of usa is only of value if we take tech and mfg ourselves beforehand .....at actual times of war i think it is not posible to depend on them as there will be obstacles and delays ....but they will be quite helpful in the area of acquiring defence tech ..... if that doesnt go through , then scrap the agreeent because they are v expert in getting things from others without giving a cent in return ....it has happened over and over again with others

we need really good defence planning and preparedness because in the asian region we are on our own ....even without russia just china and pak alone is enough of a challenge ....israel also will supply us tech for us to mfg but similarly to usa we cant expect the to send soldiers over

we often boast that indian defence today is not as in '62 but neither are china nor pak ... and brezhnev and ussr thinking is long gone

we may not have all out war but they may take small strategic points and keep adding every few years ....and they will certainly want to cut our strategic pathways

we are on our own ....

either we face it and be prepared or we might go down


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we may not have all out war but they may take small strategic points

we are on our own ....
either we face it and be prepared or we might go down
i'll add that it is a great opportunity
for us to build unity and self-reliance, get rid of corruption,
streamline the system etc etc

like never before
we will need really good government to get through this
so no one should fool with the vote

put in another jNeh or kejri ...and this time we really had it

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we would get self sufficient in every thing lets be mature even we also had exercises with usa this is not going to affetc India russia brotherhood
frankly, i think that brotherhood disappeared together with the end of the soviet union
since then it has been a cash transaction for their technology

and the global viewpoints and alignments have totally changed
even though the cash transactions with them still
continue
and , really we could do cash transactions with anyone even with china

the only brotherhood we should seek
is within the various states and ethnicities within india

to look elsewhere for brotherhood, is
imho a form of begging for help

do we want to do that ?
 
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we would get self sufficient in every thing lets be mature even we also had exercises with usa this is not going to affetc India russia brotherhood
listen buddy, these are international relation not blood relations, if we gonna shift our focus towards west and exploit the expectations of ruskies then they gonna counter it, everyone wants to enjoy their power, and ruskies are no different, russia ain't gonna think twice before siding with pakistan if it sees her interests being satisfied with them. And we must push ourselves harder towards self reliance.
 

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NATO won't allow action against the Ottomans, what are they going to do? I think we need to adhere and call for Hornets instead of 'fighting the falcons'/vipers. Solidarity to the core from engines to the cause all in one. Bolo baba Boeing ki jai!!!
 

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