Riots in Xinjiang: Future of Uighers and how will China deal with it? Part 2

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5 more Uyghurs thugs are sentenced to death and 6 more Uyghur thug are sentenced to imprisonment.

those thugs are accused of the murders of 11 innocent vitims during the 7.5 Riot in Urumqi.
 

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China announces more death sentences for Xinjiang riot
03 Dec 2009 09:56:03 GMT
Source: Reuters

BEIJING, Dec 3 (Reuters) - A Chinese court on Thursday handed down a further five death sentences to people convicted of murder and other crimes during ethnic rioting in the far western Xinjiang region in July in which almost 200 people died.

The official Xinhua news agency reported that a court in Urumqi, Xinjiang's regional capital, also jailed two defendants for life.

Judging by their names, the five people given the death penalty all appeared to be Uighurs, a Turkic minority that calls Xinjiang its homeland.

"Trials in five other cases connected with the riot will be heard by the court on Friday," Xinhua cited court sources as saying. Last month, China executed nine people convicted of violent crimes in the ethnic unrest between Uighurs and majority Han Chinese.

In Xinjiang's worst ethnic violence in decades, Uighurs attacked Han Chinese in Urumqi, after taking to the streets to protest against attacks on Uighur workers at a factory in southern China in June that left two Uighurs dead.

Han Chinese in Urumqi sought revenge two days later. The violence killed 197 people, mostly Han Chinese, and more than 1,600 were wounded, according to official figures.
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Why am I laughing?

Rebiya Kadeer is not a guy. She is a lady. And what is more she is well known to the world!
 

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The leader of China's Uighur minority in exile has highlighted a report by exiled Uighur policeman that claims nearly 200 inmates were "tortured" to death in prison. Rebiya Kadeer, a 62-year-old former businesswoman who lives in the US, said Monday she received a fax from a Uighur policeman who fled to nearby Kyrgyzstan and gave a macabre account of Urumbay prison south of the city of Urumqi.


The policeman said that 196 Uighurs detained in a recent clampdown in the region "were tortured and killed" at the detention center, according to Kadeer.

China's worst ethnic violence in decades broke out on July 5 in Urumqi, pitting Han Chinese against Uighurs, a Turkic-speaking and predominantly Muslim people. At least 197 people died, according to official figures.

Kadeer told US television that one Uighur man, named “Erkin”, couldn’t stand the torture “and killed himself."

But Kadeer said it was impossible to verify the report as phone lines had been cut.

China has accused Kadeer of instigating recent unrest in northwestern Xinjiang region - charges she vehemently denies.

Meanwhile local government officials on Tuesday denied a front page report in the state-run China Daily that the People's Intermediate Court in Urumqi was preparing to place more than 200 people on trial amid tight security. A government spokesman said there was as yet no set date for the trial.

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The leader of China's Uighur minority in exile has highlighted a report by exiled Uighur policeman that claims nearly 200 inmates were "tortured" to death in prison. Rebiya Kadeer, a 62-year-old former businesswoman who lives in the US, said Monday she received a fax from a Uighur policeman who fled to nearby Kyrgyzstan and gave a macabre account of Urumbay prison south of the city of Urumqi.


The policeman said that 196 Uighurs detained in a recent clampdown in the region "were tortured and killed" at the detention center, according to Kadeer.

China's worst ethnic violence in decades broke out on July 5 in Urumqi, pitting Han Chinese against Uighurs, a Turkic-speaking and predominantly Muslim people. At least 197 people died, according to official figures.

Kadeer told US television that one Uighur man, named “Erkin”, couldn’t stand the torture “and killed himself."

But Kadeer said it was impossible to verify the report as phone lines had been cut.

China has accused Kadeer of instigating recent unrest in northwestern Xinjiang region - charges she vehemently denies.

Meanwhile local government officials on Tuesday denied a front page report in the state-run China Daily that the People's Intermediate Court in Urumqi was preparing to place more than 200 people on trial amid tight security. A government spokesman said there was as yet no set date for the trial.

RFI - Uighur leader claims 200 Uighurs tortured by China
the " Rebiya Kadeer" really has herself as somebody.....

the woman has ten kids ,but she accuses CHinese government of population-control policy when Han Chinese are allowed to have only one kid.

The woman also accuses that Chinese government deprive Uyghur of the chance of getting richer,while She herself become the richest billionarie in Xinjiang...

the weman herself is a paradox.
 

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the " Rebiya Kadeer" really has herself as somebody.....

the woman has ten kids ,but she accuses CHinese government of population-control policy when Han Chinese are allowed to have only one kid.

The woman also accuses that Chinese government deprive Uyghur of the chance of getting richer,while She herself become the richest billionarie in Xinjiang...

the weman herself is a paradox.
In Islam, there is no ban on having children.

She is a millionairess in her own rights as many Chinese have become millionaires after being peasants or whatever was the pride of place during Mao's time.

I presume one cannot complain if someone on one's own get rich!
 

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In Islam, there is no ban on having children.

She is a millionairess in her own rights as many Chinese have become millionaires after being peasants or whatever was the pride of place during Mao's time.

I presume one cannot complain if someone on one's own get rich!

every ethinic should be equal in the front of laws and national policy.

if Han CHinese has to abide "one-kid" policy,then religion should not be a excuse for the privildge of Uyghurs or other minority ethnics.

SHe has the right to be a billionaires( not millionaire),but She has no right to lie that Uyghur are deprived of the chance of be rich mens.
 

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every ethinic should be equal in the front of laws and national policy.

if Han CHinese has to abide "one-kid" policy,then religion should not be a excuse for the privildge of Uyghurs or other minority ethnics.

SHe has the right to be a billionaires( not millionaire),but She has no right to lie that Uyghur are deprived of the chance of be rich mens.
You are right. There has to be One Law for All.

But it is the Chinese govt which allows Minorities to have more than one child.

She is entitled to her opinion. Is that something wrong? In India and elsewhere we have so many opinions that it is most extraordinary and there is no law that can force us not to have our own opinion and express them too!
 

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2 more Uyghur and 1 Han chinese are sentenced to death for the murders during the 7.5 riot. they are accused of the muder of 6 vitims .

2 Uyghurs and 1 Han are sentenced to imprisonment
 

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A group of 20 Chinese Uighurs who fled to Cambodia after ethnic riots in July have been deported back to China.

BBC News - US concern after Cambodia deports 20 Chinese Uighurs
The US has expressed deep concern about the fate of 20 Uighur asylum seekers deported from Cambodia back to China. The agency condemned the expulsions, saying Cambodia had committed a grave breach of international refugee law.

Twelve people were sentenced to death after the riots.

Tensions between the mainly-Muslim Uighurs of Xinjiang and Han have been growing in recent years. Millions of Han have moved to the region in recent decades.

Many Uighurs want more autonomy and rights for their culture and religion than is allowed by Beijing's strict rule.
 

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Oh wow!

Justice better than the Taliban!

Thank you, you junkies!
 

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US can keep its concern, China will keep our crimnals and execute them if by Chinese law that is what they deserved, US can do nothing about it, so, sit back and enjoy the execution, yankees, :dfi-1:hahaha
it is yankee's hobby to concern other's "human rights" while abusing prisoners in their own prisions.

morever, Yankees' "concern" is much cheaper than China's concern of Yankee's T-bonds.

When Yankee's express their concerns of China's human rights, Chinese like me just like watching how Yankees shows theirselves.

When Chinese express their concerns of Yankee's T-bonds, Dow Jones always makes a down dive.
 

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It is a shame that the Chinese police failed to protect its citizens and tax-payers from violence and terrorism. The Chief of Xinjiang and Urumuqi had resigned. But that's not enough. Who will pay for the 200 innocent lives? All of the criminals should be executed. Not just a dozen. It's a genocide to the innocent Han people.
Anyway, the Islam is full of violence in anywhere.
Chinese govt declaimed the Xinjiang pupils would sing national everyday to the national flag. And bilingual education will be carried out in all Xinjiang primary and middle schools.
It they had attacked the army or govt, I wont blame them so much. But why kill innocent people. That's absolutely coward and unforgivable.
Yes, the Han Chinese are mild. But dont forget how large its population is.
 

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In this forum, the Indians begin to support Islamic violence. In this case, India should join Pakistan.
That's interesting that people judge things by their position instead of the facts.
 

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In this forum, the Indians begin to support Islamic violence. In this case, India should join Pakistan.
That's interesting that people judge things by their position instead of the facts.
That statement applies exactly to you! Calling everything "Islamic violence", and sweeping it under the rug is what you're advocating.

You prefer to forget that there are real issues of discrimination and religious suppression here.
 

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That statement applies exactly to you! Calling everything "Islamic violence", and sweeping it under the rug is what you're advocating.

You prefer to forget that there are real issues of discrimination and religious suppression here.
It is violence. It is not the common Han people but the govt and army decides everything. Why attacked the innocent?
Why are you so cold-bloody toward the innocent and sympathy to the killers as a compatriot of invilolent Gandhi. Wont you deny that the criminals should pay for their deeds? Do you really think a dozen of killers can kill 200 and injured thousands? Every Chinese felt pity for Bombay Hotel explosion. Pity you stand with the criminals.
 

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It is violence. It is not the common Han people but the govt and army decides everything. Why attacked the innocent?
Why are you so cold-bloody toward the innocent and sympathy to the killers as a compatriot of invilolent Gandhi. Wont you deny that the criminals should pay for their deeds? Do you really think a dozen of killers can kill 200 and injured thousands? Every Chinese felt pity for Bombay Hotel explosion. Pity you stand with the criminals.
Indians also reget the deaths of thousands of chinese perishing due to repeated mining disasters, we also felt pity for the victims of the earthquake that devastated much of china last year , We do feel regret for the innocent chinese killed in sectarian violence in tibet and Xinjiang, but the way the entire Uighur and tibetian community is hounded and deprived of base human necessities is what we are talking about , until China looks at the injustices meted out to these people you are not really trying to stop the violence.

Anyways, you say Chinese felt pity at the dead of Mumbai, thank you for the sentiment! but next time try not to express your pity by further arming and financing the terorrist sponsors(read PA & ISI) that were the real perpetarators of Mumbai.
 

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China Tearing Down Old Kashgar: Another Blow to the Uighurs

China Tearing Down Old Kashgar: Another Blow to the Uighurs

Ishaan Tharoor

In 1072, a medieval scholar named Mahmud Kashgari — from, as his name suggests, the Silk Road outpost of Kashgar — presented a landmark text to the Caliph of Baghdad. It was the first ever compendium of the Turkish language, the babble of tongues spoken by nomadic tribes who roamed between the shores of the Caspian Sea and the wastes of Siberia. Despite the scope of his work, Kashgari was proudest of his hometown, boasting that the Turkic dialect there was the “purest” and “most elegant” of them all.

Nearly a millennium later, that language still lingers, spoken by ethnic Uighurs, a Turkic Muslim minority who make up the majority population in the Chinese frontier region of Xinjiang. Kashgar, a city of 3.4 million surrounded by mountains and desert, is at Xinjiang’s westernmost tip, closer to Baghdad than to Beijing. And while its history is rich — most agree at least 2,000 years old — many Uighurs in Kashgar see their culture and heritage as under attack by the Chinese government. In the latest move, authorities have started to demolish Kashgar’s old town — an atmospheric, mud-brick maze of courtyard homes, winding cobblestone streets plied by donkey carts, and dozens of centuries-old mosques. By some accounts, at least 85% of Old Kashgar will be knocked down. Many expect the ancient quarter, considered one of Central Asia’s best preserved sites of Islamic architecture, to disappear almost entirely before the end of the year. “This is the Uighurs’ Jersualem,” says Henryk Szadziewski of the Washington-based Uyghur Human Rights Project. “By destroying it, you rip the soul out of a people.”
(Read a brief history of the Uighurs.)

The decision to raze Old Kashgar was made before anti-Chinese riots in Xinjiang’s capital of Urumqi broke out earlier this month. That violence, in which at least 197 people died, was largely perpetrated by Uighurs against local Han Chinese, according to Beijing. Uighur-rights groups say that the Uighur death toll after a police crackdown and Chinese counterattacks has gone unreported and that the riots were an outgrowth of long-standing frustrations with Beijing’s policies, which, they say, discriminate against Uighurs, depriving them of jobs in their own land while curbing the teaching of the Uighurs’ language and their ability to freely practice Islam.
(See pictures of China after the riot deaths on LIFE.com.)

According to observers, the bulldozing of Old Kashgar has only accelerated in the riots’ aftermath. The old town’s warrens and alleyways are home to a tightly knit Uighur community and present, in Beijing’s eyes, a potential haven for antistate activities. “Uighurs may see the area as a space of refuge,” says Szadziewski. “Moving them out makes the situation much easier for China to control.” As many as 220,000 residents (almost half the urban center’s population) will be relocated to “modern” housing estates almost 8 km from their original homes, which have been passed down within families over generations. The project has been reportedly executed with little to no consultation with those to be displaced. A sliver of Old Kashgar will remain as a sanitized tourist site, with a staff of actors enacting traditional Uighur culture.

The Chinese government has justified its actions by saying the relocation will improve residents’ quality of life and that the old quarter was vulnerable to potential fires and earthquakes — a dubious claim considering how long many of Old Kashgar’s structures have survived. Most conspicuously, Old Kashgar was not included on a list of Silk Road sites that Beijing recently submitted to UNESCO for World Heritage Status, though it is still a top tourist draw in the region. Suggestions voiced in the international press by a few Chinese city planners to reinforce and refurbish the buildings of the old town — rather than reducing them to rubble — have gone unnoticed in Beijing. A coalition of international heritage organizations is petitioning UNESCO to intervene, but it’s questionable how much the U.N. agency can do to circumvent China’s development policies.

The mood in Kashgar, according to observers, is one of defeat and resignation. Since the violence in Urumqi, foreign reporters in the area have been tightly controlled by government minders and often prevented from taking pictures. Locals fear speaking out; a recent government propaganda campaign sternly warned against those “creating a negative impression.” The demolition of the city’s historic core fits lockstep with what many consider a concerted effort on Beijing’s part to bring Xinjiang firmly under its grasp and dilute Uighur identity. More and more Han Chinese migrants are flooding into Xinjiang’s cities, including Kashgar. It’s a process that led Turkish Prime Minister Recep Erdogan to controversially brand China’s policy a “kind of genocide.”

In Turkey — now the home of the scholar Kashgari’s original manuscript — the Uighurs’ plight strikes an emotional chord. And for most outsiders, dusty, remote Kashgar still holds a powerful romantic mystique. Enduring beside billowing sands and beneath glacial peaks, it has charmed and thrilled travelers from Marco Polo to the modern backpacker clutching a Lonely Planet guide. Its knife smiths and livestock bazaars drip with exoticism, exuding a living history at the edge of the world. But as Chinese authorities begin to smash Kashgar’s ancient heart, its fabled allure may end up as just that — a fable.
 

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