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After NS assassination (if at all it happens), India must not hesitate to nuke and destroy Pakistan in case Pakistan attacks India on grounds that RAW assassinated NS.
That's good. It will bring out more ideological and anti national filth in the open too. We can then crush these cockroachesKilling Hafeez now will become counter-productive for India. It will make him an martyr and give tremendous boost to his ideology resulting in a mass surge of ideological followers.
He probably is on the No Touch List maintained between Intelligence agencies (RAW-ISI).
It does not matter.. Remember only vengeance tastes sweeter..Killing Hafeez now will become counter-productive for India. It will make him an martyr and give tremendous boost to his ideology resulting in a mass surge of ideological followers.
He probably is on the No Touch List maintained between Intelligence agencies (RAW-ISI).
Sir with all due statements such statements look good only in philosophical books/movies. In real life you have to be responsible/diplomatic.It does not matter.. Remember only vengeance tastes sweeter..
Lot Of Hindu kingdoms fell because they chose to live with the enemies by selling their daughters. Exactly what you are kind of suggesting now.Especially in times like this when we have a shot at UNSC. We also have to think about consequence, actions/reaction and after shocks and then gauge is it going to be worth going after him.
You must sometimes learn to live with the devil himself.
History has taught us that a lot of Empire/Kingdom fell because they couldn't live with the enemy.
We are not Americans. Even Before and After killing OBL US forces are killing civilians, terrorist and military person alike who they think are against American Interest or threat to America. Hence their is a containment to ideological spread. We can't repeat such feast.Doesn't matter. If you want to send a message. This is the best.You can't perennially live in fear. Let the next guy come up. We will take him down too. It's a long battle. There is no going back now.What you are saying is akin to asking west not to take down Al-Baghdadi because that will make him a martyr and give boost to his ideology.Similarly, for Osama Bin Laden.
Its not just about sending message. You should also look for containment of ideology. This is where we will loose.The message one would want to send is, we will hunt you down wherever the fcuk you are...and feed you to the dogs.
Completely agreed that words won't make a difference, action does but what makes you sure that we have capability for such actions.Words don't matter/ make difference. Action does. What's the point of having capability if we don't utilize it.
These Hindu kingdoms fell because they didn't have capability to do anything. Just war mongering doesn't get you anywhere.Lot Of Hindu kingdoms fell because they chose to live with the enemies by selling their daughters. Exactly what you are kind of suggesting now.
And which nation will give us UNSC if you can't protect our own ass? What are you smoking? And a shot at UNSC is enough to suck up hundreds of Indians getting killed? Listen to yourself.
plz do not sir me.. I understand your point.. I also agree with the diplomatic approach.. but the common man in me always would be more relieved if I see him dead..Sir with all due statements such statements look good only in philosophical books/movies. In real life you have to be responsible/diplomatic.
Especially in times like this when we have a shot at UNSC. We also have to think about consequence, actions/reaction and after shocks and then gauge is it going to be worth going after him.
You must sometimes learn to live with the devil himself.
History has taught us that a lot of Empire/Kingdom fell because they couldn't live with the enemy.
Hindu kingdoms at that time were not weak, just that they dint attch just as much love for their land, just like you.These Hindu kingdoms fell because they didn't have capability to do anything. Just war mongering doesn't get you anywhere.
Sitting behind a 5 star hotel and talking about love for the terrorist scum will sound great on paper. But people who suffered at the hands of these scum will have a different view on these scum.Sitting behind monitor are typing we should go kill this or that guy is easy however they have been termed operationally infeasible.
We can't guarantee that even Bhutan will fall in line if people like you were our strategic planners.Lets not forget Pakistani didn't even scramble their F-16 during OBL raid nor PA engaged the Americans. Can you guarantee such dominance over Pakistan when we attack.
Yes, a fungus eating us slowly. I suppose this is what you will do if you get a fungal disease? You will let it eat you? For F sake have some self respect.Pakistan is a fungus that is best ignored and kept at a distance.
Really? You will look for diplomatic solutions first? Let me ask you a question, if a robber is trying to rob/kill/rape your family , will you also seek diplomatic solutions with him, even if you can defend them there? I am really curious!plz do not sir me.. I understand your point.. I also agree with the diplomatic approach.. but the common man in me always would be more relieved if I see him dead..
buddy you did not understand me.. I said "I agree with the diplomatic approach" that means I know the importance of the same.. but I said earlier I would be in peace only after the scumbag is dead and I would take steps to make sure he is dead..Really? You will look for diplomatic solutions first? Let me ask you a question, if a robber is trying to rob/kill/rape your family , will you also seek diplomatic solutions with him, even if you can defend them there? I am really curious!
Are you people that damn afraid to go after a country which is 1/10 your size!?
That is only applicable if we had already defeated the enemy (in this case captured Hafiz sawed) and then let him go. This is just pure cowardice, or as the pussies justify as diplomatic negotiationsPrithvi Raj Chauhan Syndrome anyone ?
What has killing a terrorist has to with love for land. Please name such strong Hindu kingdoms!!!Hindu kingdoms at that time were not weak, just that they dint attch just as much love for their land, just like you.
And you are back to throw shit on people who don't agree with your views. What has providing daughters as price for terrorists to reform them got to do with issue if we should kill them are not.And sucking up to people who kill you will get you where? Do you also propose to provide daughters as price for terrorists to reform them?
And we go ballistic here. What has anything to do about love for the terrorist has to do with what we are discussing here. Its a question regarding need, productiveness and consequence of killing a terrorist who has a very ideological influence over population.Sitting behind a 5 star hotel and talking about love for the terrorist scum will sound great on paper. But people who suffered at the hands of these scum will have a different view on these scum.
Actually it does guarantee that other country fall in line as you can be decisive when needed and not fighting and killing an every issue. If you are given the mantle of responsibility you will go on war with everyone. Remember what happened with Adolf Hitler.We can't guarantee that even Bhutan will fall in line if people like you were our strategic planners.
No its not eating us. Stop living in weird fantasies. In fact we are improving than Pakistan in much faster rate. What we need is better surveillance along our borders (coastal/land) and better intelligence gathering for counter terrorism.Yes, a fungus eating us slowly. I suppose this is what you will do if you get a fungal disease? You will let it eat you? For F sake have some self respect.
If you really want to repay someone, you would not be talking about diplomatic gestures. "We" atleast should stay clear of this diplomatic bull shit.One more thing.. as you mentioned 1/10th the size.. It should be never about the size.. if I want to repay-back someone for his misdoings, I would do it anyway.
Vijayanagar, hoysalas, rashtrakudas, Cholas, Guptas, Marathas, Orissa under gajapathis, Rajputana? You want more?What has killing a terrorst has to with love for land. Please name such strong Hindu kingdoms!!!
I don't see any difference between people who talk peace with scum who kill us as a national hobby and the scum which sell their daughters for buying peace. Really what differentiates your thinking from the daughter sellers?And you are back to throw shit on people who don't agree with your views. What has providing daughters as price for terrorists to reform them got to do with issue if we should kill them are not.
Yes, giving excuse for your cowardice in dealing with the way they should be dealt is very great indeed. Next time don't try to act so smart.And we go ballistic here. What has anything to do about love for the terrorist has to do with what we are discussing here. Its a question regarding need, productiveness and consequence of killing a terrorist who has a very ideological influence over population
Yes, Godwin's law at full force. You see, when dimwits lose their arguments, they invoke Godwin's law. Anyway, the key difference is, Hitler was not ganged up on for reacting to a terror attack. That is not the case here. The correct comparison should be , what did Britain and others did for the aggressions of Hitler? Did they try sucking up to him as you suggest(they actually did and how well it turned out)? Learn to use proper analogies next.Actually it does guarantee that other country fall in line as you can be decisive when needed and not fighting and killing an every issue. If you are given the mantle of responsibility you will go on war with everyone. Remember what happened with Adolf Hitler.
Oh, so the hundreds killed in Mumbai or the hundreds of bomb blasts across the country sponsored by it is not something which is eating us?? You are pathetic and delusional if you think so.No its not eating us. Stop living in weird fantasies. In fact we are improving than Pakistan in much faster rate. What we need is better surveillance along our borders (coastal/land) and better intelligence gathering for counter terrorism.
Why are so many christlamists in south India? How christlam spread in south India?Vijayanagar, hoysalas, rashtrakudas, Cholas, Guptas, Marathas, Orissa under gajapathis, Rajputana? You want more?
I don't see any difference between people who talk peace with scum who kill us as a national hobby and the scum which sell their daughters for buying peace. Really what differentiates your thinking from the daughter sellers?
Yes, giving excuse for your cowardice in dealing with the way they should be dealt is very great indeed. Next time don't try to act so smart.
Yes, Godwin's law at full force. You see, when dimwits lose their arguments, they invoke Godwin's law. Anyway, the key difference is, Hitler was not ganged up on for reacting to a terror attack. That is not the case here. The correct comparison should be , what did Britain and others did for the aggressions of Hitler? Did they try sucking up to him as you suggest(they actually did and how well it turned out)? Learn to use proper analogies next.
Oh, so the hundreds killed in Mumbai or the hundreds of bomb blasts across the country sponsored by it is not something which is eating us?? You are pathetic and delusional if you think so.
Seriously, stop hiding behind intellectualism for your cowardice.